yeah i think so haha thanks!

I honestly think you just came up with the new best venusaur move set switching sludge bomb for EQ is just so much mroe practical. Sludge bomb all though it is STAB is not a very helpful move. and having EQ is far more helpful vs the commonly used threats used today.

yeah getting rid of heatran is huge and earthquake KOs all but the defensive version, and i like the switch back to hp fire because honestly getting walled by scizor or walled and paralyzed by jirachi sucks, especially now that i use donphan to switch in vs dragons anyway, 2HKO on dragonite and that means it cant boost enough to outspeed charizard who still has hp ice. right now im using earthquake hp fire giga drain and growth

Nice call on the Ev changes man and I think Hp fire can be very handy on venusaur almost more so than sludge bomb maybe get rid of that and have the EQ for surprise still.

what do you think of me going back to HP fire? all these scizors and jirachis can be a pain, i still have dophan for dragons... i mean the ohko is cool but losing to or being forced out by steels and other grass types sucks. i suppose i should try it... keeping earthquake for sure tho

yeah i made the switch, and he is actually naive nature so i bumped him up a few to make him 264 speed, 252 would be 284 and probably not hit hard enough, and yeah you can steal him if you want

I can safely say that i feel 100% sure that your venusaur would be better off with 252 speed Evs. I love your venusaur move set tho, i might even steel it for my own lol

yeah definitely, we each destroyed eachother and then finished up with a close one... do you think i should add a little speed to my venusaur? well played cloyster wrecks me and im not sure if i would be missing any key KOs by moving 12 evs around

Damn i didn't i already have an old good one saved. it was a really good one definately the best of all 3 we had

hey did you save the video of that last battle by any chance? it was a good one, i forgot to :(