sure, but if this is about Moltres, you're better off talking to other C&C members

i've washed my hands with it for good, I don't want to talk about anymore.

Hi PK, can you get in #pokemon?

yeah, i'll be right there

Can you get in irc?

Ok.

Hey, I talked it over with the other QC members and they weren't too receptive of mentioning speed evs in the AC of the offensive donphan set either. I know AC is usually "lax" in terms of suggestions, but we truly and honestly think that 164 speed evs Donphan is a bad idea.

Sorry, but it's not going to get an AC mention.

At least talking about it with the other QC members seems fine, thx PK!

I just don't think it's worth mentioning it. I'm going to talk to other QC members about it and see what they think, but for the most part I don't see a reason to add the AC mention at all, especially when it causes more harm than good.

Why would you think that i am arguing for the sake of it? I just believe that offensive Donphan should be able to get past the most common spin blocker, because that is one of its main jobs. This is my opinion, and because i am not a QC member, i can only tell it to other QC to consider it. If you don't agree with me then that's fine. Anyway if you believe that the Soft Sand and Assurance suggestions are bad, then at least mention enough Speed evs for Donphan to outspeed and 2hko Jellicent if it has taken 10% more damage previously.

Give it a break man, you're arguing for the sake of arguing.

You want me to slip an AC mention of Donphan running 164 on top of running Soft Sand OR Assurance? That's big of mention (and completely absurd). Give me a better reason.