ty :)

grats on 5k =]

Subjectivity around Queen? Yes I agree which is why it shouldn't even be a suspect. You can't objectively demonstrate that it's broken so don't ban it.

Also the post wasn't necessarily to get people to agree, it was to get them on the same page when arguing. Arguing is pointless if each sides arguements are flying nowhere near the other sides. If they have the same frame of reference at least something productive can get done.

Also the whole which metagame is better thing seems to be primarily a battle between offensive and defensive players of those that I've talked to further showing that suspecting on that basis is stupid.

Either way I've already arged this thoroughly with SilentVerse like twice in the last three days and don't really want to do it again >_>

Which is exactly what we have right now l0l

So much subjectivity in there and deviates completely from the principles of suspecting. nty

Your post was good and helpful, but I was saying that I doubt people will start to agree because of it. People do think that the metagame is "bad" or "sucks" and a good way to resolve that imo is to do what we were going to do before hail dropped (test the meta with and without the suspect).

suspect discussion thread, i talked with sv and was trying to get something meaningful out of that discussion and i'd have preferred it if it weren't immediately discredited >_>. Moot point now though since honko and pocket built off it

huh

less negativity plz :<

grats (x2) :p