Waiit whhhat? Teambuildings the easy part for me (on PO at least no comment on RNGing) I screw up in actual battling too much :(.

If you want something that OHKOes both, I think Toxicroak ohkoes ludi with poison jab and tar with low kick...

I'd have to calc HP Flying vs a min/min Ludicolo then - I was looking at physical sets for Virizion (fuck T-Tar's SpD boost in Sand.)

Either way, I hate teambuilding. Always so much to look at, and this year is just ridiculous. hahaha.

Skarm? Hey the female's lips make me lol, look at it, you'll probs think the same lol. Not really TOO important though :p.

Doesn't jelly get muddy water or scald? I know it gets energy ball for gastro for sure, point is, ludi wont spam surfs, if it does TR! Defensive spread with Rindo should be fine.

Virizon gets hp flying! Aside that.... I think nothing :(.

Ooh. Jellicent. It'll have to be Male though. I am not Skarm - I don't go gaga over the female sprite.

Water Spout too. That would definitely work, but I'm not worried about Fire/Rock at all (except Tyranitar, but a simple Close Combat/Superpower can handle that); I don't think many will be running Speed EV's. Hippowdon would be a pain though. Decisions decisions.

Does Virizion get a better flying move beyond Aerial Ace? I don't believe it does - I checked Serebii when I was looking at this, but I don't remember.

My horrible luck then :( oh well, I guess Tornadobro could work well but the question is over what? Besides Mienfoo's begging for that Sash :P, while if we use Mushy we solve all TR + rain problems just by running Light Screen on it (lol). Or we could go JELLICENT :P (PRINGLES! The female sprite makes me lol, if we can get a female that would be trolltastic). He deals with all rain teams with Rindo berry and gets Taunt and TR to annoy TR teams, whadya think? Can also TR if we get into a full non-tailwind team vs full Rain + Swift Swim scenario.

I've been on, lol. I think it's pretty good at the moment; after running into some Ludicolo/Gastrodon problems, I did some calcs looking for a set that could OHKO both - Air Slash/HP Grass 70 Tornadus.

I might try Musharna; not sure yet. I have a few viable TR users available, so it's not too big a deal at the moment. I didn't run into too many TR teams when I played that night, though I'll have to think of something to deal with it consistently.

Where have you been! I thought we were making a anti-room / tailwind VGC team :(. Sorry about my d/c that occured in the middle of it but haven't seen you since then to apologize (so consider this post my apology). So anyway I think Musharna makes an excellent candidate over Chandelure since its bulk is better to deal with Rain, and we can shift sash onto Mienshao then :P.

Oh yeah before I forget, Mr.lol = Scrolls / Rolls / Trolls / anything with rolls in it / polop