CAP 6 CAP 6 - Part 11 - Supporting Moves Discussion

[darkie]

not competitive.

 

[X-Act]

Disable shouldn't be included, in my opinion. We're almost trying to include Disable in almost every CAP movepool...

 

[Atlas]

camoflauge would be competitive if shoddy inputs terrain...

 

[darkie]

A few more opinions on
-Torment
-Magic Coat
-Mirror Move
and I can move on to the poll.

 

[Solstice]

I think Mirror Move should be allowed, its not very competitive, but still interesting.

 

[zarator]

I think something like Copycat would fit any of the three arts more than Mirror Move, while still retaining a similar effect

 

[dmlaw]

No to Torment. If it's counters can't hit it twice in a row with a super-effective move then it turns just about any 2HKO into a 3HKO which just seems too powerful to me.

 

[Infiltrator]

I for Slack Off. But against Bulk up and other moves that boosts the user.

 

[Gothic Togekiss]

No to Torment. If it's counters can't hit it twice in a row with a super-effective move then it turns just about any 2HKO into a 3HKO which just seems too powerful to me.

They're more than one way to combat a Pokemon. Zapdos can Toxic/Thunder Wave/HP Flying him if he tries to Torment it's Thunderbolt and that if CAP6 can survive the first TB. Some Starmies/Slowbro carry electric move as well as their stabbed move so they're not up a creek without a paddle. Faster foes can just Taunt CAP6 before it even make a move. It's not that hopeless.

BTW, I'm neither for nor against Torment.

 

[zarator]

No to Torment. If it's counters can't hit it twice in a row with a super-effective move then it turns just about any 2HKO into a 3HKO which just seems too powerful to me.

This would make a lot other OU Pokémon broken. Seriously, there's no way Torment can end up being broken - or even competitive, for this concern.

 

[Petope]

-Torment - Yes, haven't seen anyone use this move really good yet and would be nice to see if this one maybe could.

-Magic Coat - Yes

-Mirror Move - Yes