I don't have an AR for my GBA and I didn't go to the event so I guess I'm stuck just going through the game bilions of times :/ is there something I can do in the mean time? for research
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Gen 3 GC Research Thread (Colosseum/XD)
- Thread starter Lorak
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Damage calcs. See if the IVs of non-shadow Pokemon you're battling really have all 0 IVs, as they seem to be, from my results, as well as if they're always the same nature for a trainer's non-shadow Pokemon, again, as they seem to be.
Coming before Emerald, Synchronizing does *not* work.
Hi, after restarting game and trying for a while got an sassy umbreon with 0 speed (after checking with metalkids iv) , i like trick room teams so will use it after to breed etc for d/p/platinum. So let me know if this will be useful to test speeds with as i continue playing through the game. I will follow an ev guide i found on serebii to ensure umbreon gets no evs for speed ( ie had to kill umbreon in first battle as two zigazoons give out speed evs). Umbreon has 63 speed at level 50 and 121 speed at level 100
Well, I've just about confirmed the non-shadow Pokemon's 0 IVs in all stats, thanks to damage calcs done during my Battle Mode Mt. Battle vs. 100 challenge I did yesterday.
I wish we had someone here who could figure out how nature and IVs are determined by the game, and why they don't match the PIDs of the portable games.
I wish we had someone here who could figure out how nature and IVs are determined by the game, and why they don't match the PIDs of the portable games.
Well, this is what we know so far, concerning the Colosseum/XD RNG:
Also, sorry I haven't been able to capture more Lugia, but as I suspected, I've been quite busy!
Well, that's quite useful. Do you think we could learn how this equation is modified, or would we have to delve into the game's coding to have any chance of this?
No worries, business before pleasure!
I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the move tutor selects from a list of sets, not individual moves. For example, when I was trying to teach my event Mew Hypnosis, he offered to teach it Mega Punch/Ice Punch/ThunderPunch/Fire Punch.
I think I came across Hypnosis twice, once with Dream Eater, and once with Nightmare (I'm not sure on the Dream Eater one, but I can confirm that I decided on Hypnosis/Nightmare/Swagger/Protect). Nightmare was directly after Hypnosis, too.
I really doubt that those sets are a coincidence (come on, the 'classic' four punches on one set?).
I'll post the 27 movesets I got. I did notice a somewhat-correlation between answers and movesets.
Code:
AERIAL ACE ICY WIND FURY CUTTER STRENGTH
ROLE PLAY MIMIC THUNDER HYPER BEAM
METRONOME HIDDEN POWER ROCK TOMB THIEF
ZAP CANNON IRON TAIL FURY CUTTER ICY WIND
ROLE PLAY MIMIC ICE PUNCH FRUSTRATION
METRONOME HIDDEN POWER ICE PUNCH RETURN
SWORDS DANCE AERIAL ACE FURY CUTTER SWIFT
FAINT ATTACK SHOCK WAVE FIRE PUNCH DOUBLE TEAM
ZAP CANNON DYNAMICPUNCH SLEEP TALK ROAR
ROLE PLAY MIMIC HYPER BEAM WATERFALL
RAIN DANCE WATERFALL SWAGGER ENDURE
DOUBLE-EDGE EXPLOSION SELFDESTRUCT SOLARBEAM
METRONOME HIDDEN POWER SWIFT ICY WIND
DOUBLE-EDGE EXPLOSION SELFDESTRUCT WATER PULSE
TAUNT COUNTER SUBSTITUTE SLEEP TALK
ROLE PLAY MIMIC STRENGTH BULLET SEED
METRONOME HIDDEN POWER FIRE BLAST FIRE PUNCH
METRONOME HIDDEN POWER AERIAL ACE STRENGTH
ZAP CANNON THUNDER ROLLOUT ROCK TOMB
RAIN DANCE THUNDER SEISMIC TOSS ROAR
ZAP CANNON THUNDER NIGHTMARE ROCK TOMB
DOUBLE-EDGE EXPLOSION SELFDESTRUCT FURY CUTTER
METRONOME HIDDEN POWER SLUDGE BOMB AERIAL ACE
DEFENSE CURL ROLLOUT STEEL WING SEISMIC TOSS
FAINT ATTACK SWIFT SURF BRICK BREAK
RAIN DANCE WATERFALL AERIAL ACE IRON TAIL
FAINT ATTACK SWIFT SHOCK WAVE ICE PUNCHThe moves do appear grouped in some way... Perhaps there are themed groups of two or three moves, and the remaining ones are random? From your list, I can see:
Role Play/Mimic - copying other Pokémon's ability/move
Metronome/Hidden Power - random effect (?)
Faint Attack/Swift (or Shock Wave?) - never miss
Double-Edge/Explosion/SelfDestruct - 'suicide' moves
Rain Dance/Waterfall - water moves?
There are also a lot of combo moves:
Rain Dance/Thunder
Defense Curl/Rollout
Taunt/Counter
Perhaps the questions determine one of a number of possible combinations, and the 'random' moves at the end?
Whatever the mechanism is, it's certainly not random... If I get some free time, I could help with getting a list of movesets.
I had seen the groupings as well. However, without other people with third-gen Mews willing to help, my previous thread on this topic hadn't advanced as far as I'd hoped.
I figure we might as well post results here, seeing as that thread hasn't been updated since July.
Yeah, it makes more sense to post the results here than in an old thread.
I'm thinking we'd have to get someone who can look at the game's code to do something like this. I'm almost certain that's what X-Act did for his PID/IV creation article; something like that is just too complex to be found externally.
That's crazy. It's strange that selecting a New Game would still keep the game's "SID" intact. I'm really curious as to how much of an impact those 3 numbers affect IV generation and if/how that can be manipulated.
It seems like a whole lot more complicated than the RNG in any of the other Pokemon games. Here's hoping somebody can crack the coding of these games lol. If only I knew how...
Bump with Mew info:
I just input Friends, kind MEW, Strike first to win, Krane, Snattle twice, and I got two different movesets:
Sunny Day/Fire Blast/Rest/Sleep Talk
Rain Dance/Waterfall/Sunny Day/Return
I have a strong feeling (not certain, but close) there is a random element to this.
I just input Friends, kind MEW, Strike first to win, Krane, Snattle twice, and I got two different movesets:
Sunny Day/Fire Blast/Rest/Sleep Talk
Rain Dance/Waterfall/Sunny Day/Return
I have a strong feeling (not certain, but close) there is a random element to this.
Was going to say, you've got Sunny Day in both. Also, both are weather-oriented. Random, perhaps, but there's more than coincidence related to the answers, methinks.
Definitely there is a coincidence - I just was saying there is likely a portion of the moveset design that is random.
Has there been any work in this lately?
And is there anything i could do to advance any research on this subject?
And is there anything i could do to advance any research on this subject?
