reyscarface
World Defender
Thanks a lot Doug.
Holy shit Mismagius jumped in UU...
Holy shit Mismagius jumped in UU...
Lets hold off on this until X-Act posts the tier lists just in CASE there is a mistake with the math some of you are doing. Nothing has changed tiers until X-Act posts the official list.It seems that Alakazam is just above the UU line this month, while Rhyperior is just below it. Everything above Alakazam is still technically OU for now.. Including Crobat, Roserade, Heracross, and Umbreon.
Just because a pokemon can be successful in ubers it doesn't mean it's going to be banned from the OU tier unless it's obviously too strong, and Scizor isn't.Damn... what's it going to take to stop Scizor? With it doing so well in ubers do you think it will ever go uber? Probably not, but it's a thought.
I am aware of that. However, in my opinion, Garchomp was not too strong for OU either. I'm just saying that for Scizor to stop doing so well in OU it will probably have to be banned.Just because a pokemon can be successful in ubers it doesn't mean it's going to be banned from the OU tier unless it's obviously too strong, and Scizor isn't.
Your calculation is wrong. The actual OU cutoff is at 3.4% (at least, that's what it ends up being when you run the calculation). That means Umbreon, Crobat, Alakazam, and Rhyperior are all under the line this month. Also, for the future, remember to use only the OU battles in your calculation. The total battles also includes the ~100,000 UU, Uber, and unrated battles.Hmm... Unless my calculations are wrong, a pokémon, this month, is OU if it's used in over ~24267 battles (1/20th of 485,335 = 24266.5, according to my calculator).
That means Crobat barely makes it into OU, with Alakazam and Rhyperior dropping out of OU, and into UU. That is, if I calculated correctly.
I get what you are saying with Scizor and it's more of a pondering thing...but Garchomp was too strong for OU...it is bulkier than Swampert, faster than mence, SR Resistant, access to SD, and 2 great StabsI am aware of that. However, in my opinion, Garchomp was not too strong for OU either. I'm just saying that for Scizor to stop doing so well in OU it will probably have to be banned.
Scizor isn't going to banned from OU no matter how much usage it gets, unless it's proven to be broken (which will probably never happen). Wobbuffet had very low usage when it was banned iirc.I am aware of that. However, in my opinion, Garchomp was not too strong for OU either. I'm just saying that for Scizor to stop doing so well in OU it will probably have to be banned.
Sceptile is still very usable down there. :ORoserade is leaving UU.... thats like taking Scizor straight out of OU; it will have a huge effect. Milotic will be even more unbreakable, and Vennusaur and Leafeon are the only offensive grasses left.
Also, where the hell did Crobat come from?!
Yeah that surprised me too. I think that its mainly because people were anticipating Roserade leaving the tier, and then stopped using it. Yanmega dropped 2% for the same reason, I think.Registeel making it to number one in UU and Roserade falling to fourth are the biggest surprises to me. The increase in Mismagius was expected though.
Why so? Psychic is nessecary on t6he Specs set; also, why not Psycho Boost Deoxys?10% of Mewtwos in Ubers use Psychic. This is why people shouldn't rush into Uber play.
I'm predicting Roserade and possibly Crobat becoming OU and Alakazam and Rhyperior becoming UU.
You've clearly never played Ubers. Psychic is the worst Attacking type in Ubers, period. Mewtwo does NOT need it for the specs set, as it has Aura Sphere/Ice Beam/SelfDestruct/Fire Blast/Grass Knot/Thunder as options.Why so? Psychic is nessecary on t6he Specs set; also, why not Psycho Boost Deoxys?
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What do you mean? The tiers are based on usage. If something doesn't maintain the usage to be OU, then it will go down to UU. Thus, if something doesn't maintain the usage to be OU, it will fall down to UU. I see no reason to keep UU frozen and just default-ban anything that comes down to it after that point. If something falls down to UU, it should be given a shot, especially since it's not like something like Salamance will actually be falling down; if it's broken, oh well, ban it; otherwise, great, UU has a new Pokemon. Doing otherwise will just lead to the same problems that caused us to have a gigantic Borderline list in the first place. So, I can see no reason to make the UU list frozen.Does Anyone else think eventually UU should have its tier list frozen.
Absolutely. When everyone is in 100% agreeance that the tier is fine and there are no issues, and the metagame is likely to remain fluid and not stagnate around one strategy.Does Anyone else think eventually UU should have its tier list frozen.
Honestly, it's pointless to theorymon this, since we have another three months, minimum. Plus, Flame Orb Cross neuters T-Wave - if you switch in right.Heracross in UU would be madness, and would really shake the place up. That said, he would be far from an answer to the likes of Registeel and team, who have so many resistances to come in on. They are designed to draw the likes of Heracross into the open, and hitting them with Thunder Wave on the switch.
If Heracross does drop to UU one day, and it's presence there truly does cause havoc, then it'll just be banned.Heracross in UU would be madness, and would really shake the place up. That said, he would be far from an answer to the likes of Registeel and team, who have so many resistances to come in on. They are designed to draw the likes of Heracross into the open, and hitting them with Thunder Wave on the switch.