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Ditto
- Thread starter Emperor
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Yes, but it still would have shedinja's crummy defenses.
Yes, it copies basically everything exactly except HP, PP and level, but with only 5 PP for each move and awful defenses, you're still better off with a normal Shedinja.
COMPLETELY FORGOT THIS, but there are a couple of hard counters to this Ditto, unfortunately. Namely Pinsir, Rampardos, Ononokusu, Doryuuzu, Nageki, Dageki, Basurao, and Kurimugan. Know what they have in common? Mold Breaker. As Eccentric is an ability of Ditto's, surely that means it is cancelled or prevented from starting when it switches in?
Mold breaker doesn't stop a Gyara's intimidate when it switches in, so I don't think it'll prevent this either, since the point of Mold Breaker is to hit things it usually wouldn't be able to due to abilities (eg. being able to EQ Rotom even though it's got levitate).
I am loving Ditto. I want a shiny one, now...
And to think, only a week ago, ditto was nothing but a joke.
I remember back in RBY playing with my fellow five year olds... Back then all of us used Ditto ;)
It's a comeback for the littlest of all the slimeballs Trollfreak has given us.
It's a comeback for the littlest of all the slimeballs Trollfreak has given us.
Gyarados gets called out.
Go ditto.
ditto transforms as gyarados DD.
gyarados wins.
Go ditto.
ditto transforms as gyarados DD.
gyarados wins.
If this is how your planning on using Ditto..Don't.
He is a revenge killer, meaning that you send him out after one of you Pokemon got killed...You wouldn't send in Choice Scarf Dugtrio into a Gyarados..You wait until it kills your Pokemon, then you just Stone Edge..
Is this concept so hard to understand?
Ditto intimidates Gyarados.
Ditto is holding a Choice Scarf.
The two are on equal footing, no matter how many DD's Gyarados accumulates, if Ditto switches in on a DD.
In this instance, it would be a 50/50 speed tie.
And as previously said, this isn't the best way to use Ditto.
yeah, it was noted awhile back that it's probably better just to let them get 6 dd then send in ditto to soak it all in. Ditto is a REVENGE killer; it's supposed to come out after one of your pokes died
If your opponent has 6 DD's under it's belt, wouldn't there be a speed tie anyway? The choice scarf would be rendered moot, as a Pokemon can't have 7+ speed.
Scarf/Band isn't considered part of that..I'm sure, but can't really explain it..Just trust me.
Item boosts and stage boosts are calculated differently. Taken from a mechanics article on the main site:
That means that, even with a boost of +6 speed (4x multiplier), Choice Scarf will still kick in (1.5x multiplier).
At least know what you're talking about before dismissing other people's ideas.
That is simply awesome. Ditto is unbelievable.
I was asking a question, not making a statement. I haven't dismissed anyone's idea.
Anything that a taunt user can use as set-up fodder. i.e.: a Pokemon with no attacking moves. That way, while Ditto may learn your move-set, it can't attackyou. If you ALSO run Taunt, you can use it on the switch and now their Ditto can only Struggle or Switch Out which you can use to Set-up a bit. Baton Pass, Sub, and U-Turn users could become more popular when a Ditto is out solely to beat it.
More Extreme and Less Viable: Predict the switch to Ditto and switch to something like Caterpie and laugh at your opponent for wasting their Ditto. String Shot.
I wouldn't suggest batton pass seeing as when you finally finish and feel really good about yourself...ditto would just come in and take all the stat boosts >.>
edit: never mind I see what you meant but yeah...don't batton pass lol
and I took out the
"well, now we've gotten through exactly how ditto would be used and all...how exactly do we beat ditto?"
since we pretty much have that above
edit: never mind I see what you meant but yeah...don't batton pass lol
and I took out the
"well, now we've gotten through exactly how ditto would be used and all...how exactly do we beat ditto?"
since we pretty much have that above
Just make sure you can take on your own team, lol. What will be interesting is Ditto transforming into transformed Ditto.
Prediction. If he turns into a Dragon switch to a Steel. Bait and Lure with a Ghost and a Pursuit user. You already have all the information you need: He has bad HP and has a Scarf, so exploit it.
If you're facing a Ditto then that means you just wiped out one his Pokes, so you have an advantage. Just keep stalling by switching until he's down to only a Ditto locked into a single move.
I meant Baton Pass to a counter.So if say you have a +1ATK + 1 DEF - 1 SPE on a Curse Umbreon and Ditto comes in, Sub and BP to something that doesn't mind the stat changes (like Bullet Punch Scizor). I only mentioned Baton Pass so that Ditto would switch in first and copy the pokemon you have out, then switch to a counter. This would require you to predict the switch however...
uuuurgggh, ditto endless transforming cycle >.> I hope they fix this if they haven't already
Assuming Gyarados doesn't have Overconfidence.
I think Ditto is being overhyped. Sure you can outrun the enemy, but you can only choose one move + you're locked into it + have 5 PP. Without too many stat boosts, the foe can predict what Ditto will do (which will be relatively easy, because they know its exact moveset) and switch accordingly. If for some strange reason Ditto has +6 in stats, it'll still have to choose what it does wisely. Earthquake? Be careful of Levitaters/Flyers. Close Combat/High Jump Kick? Watch out for Ghosts (and priority moves with Close Combat). Plus you have to watch out for Pokemon with Pressure.
In a perfect world Ditto will nab +6 Atk and +6 Speed and rape, but in reality it will almost never happen.