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80/105 /65/100/60/70
Abilities
Chlorophyll
Gluttony: A held Berry is eaten earlier than usual when HP is low. - Thanks, but I'll stick with Chlorophyll
Learn
TM/HM
Egg
Pre-Evo
Victreebel- a veteran of the Pokerealm who has barely been viable since the beginning. Can it finally find its niche? Much like the rest of you I have been scouring over stats and movepools the last few days. One of the first Pokes I happen to look at was Victreebel and immediately I noticed Power Whip. With that 120BP Phys move Victy really justifies its 105 Atk stat (highest of all PW users). Other than that, it's pretty much left the same. But some changes to other moves and Pokemon (see: Growth; Ninetales) the flytrap might be able to to at least break into UU.
Can't do anything about the paper thin defense. The hope is that Sunny Day is already set up, but it might be able to do SD support also. It has decent Speed to utilize SD although its far from the fastest Phyll'er. The thing I think Victreebel can excel at is being unpredictable. The movepool is not fabulous, but the utility of Victreebel can range from straight up band/specs attacker, mixed attacker, boosting attacker, or status inducer/utility.
The reason I have a little faith in this previously never-used is that Venusaur has long been considered a very solid candidate in the UU tier. I finally got around to reading the Venusaur thread and saw that people were geeked because he might be able to keep Power Whip and get Chlorophyll. The Other V is very similar in movepool, attacking stats, and Ability (although Venus is 10 base points faster) but still offers enough to set it part by hitting a little harder.
Most of the old movesets still work so I'll do a couple featuring Power Whip
Mixed
@Life Orb
4HP/142Atk/110 SpAtk/ 252Sp - would need tweaking
Lonely or Mild
Power Whip
Leaf Storm/Solar Beam
Sludge Bomb
HP Fire
Best user of the unheralded Whip/Bomb combo.
@Choice Band
4HP/252Atk/252Sp
Adamant
Power Whip
HP Fire
Return
Knock Off/Facade
:D Its a stretch
Booster
@Leftovers
4HP/252Atk/252Sp
Adamant/Lonely
Encore/Sleep Powder
Swords Dance/Growth
Power Whip
Return/Sludge Bomb
Honestly could sweep (a team of Swamperts) if set up nicely.
Toxic Trickery
252 SpAtk/252 Sp
@Leftovers
Sleep Powder/Stun Spore/Knock Off/Gastro Acid
Toxic
Venom Shock
Power Whip/Solar Beam/HP Fire
Get the enemy to switch into Toxic, then Shock them...probably too gimmicky.
Wuddaya think? Is this plant finally worth using because of Power Whip and the awesome ability? Or still mediocre as ever?
80/105 /65/100/60/70
Abilities
Chlorophyll
Gluttony: A held Berry is eaten earlier than usual when HP is low. - Thanks, but I'll stick with Chlorophyll
Learn
Stockpile
Swallow
Spit Up
Vine Whip
Sleep Powder
Sweet Scent
Razor Leaf
Grass Mixer
Leaf Storm
Leaf Blade
Swallow
Spit Up
Vine Whip
Sleep Powder
Sweet Scent
Razor Leaf
Grass Mixer
Leaf Storm
Leaf Blade
TM/HM
Toxic
Venom Shock
Hidden Power
Sunny Day
Hyper Beam
Protect
Frustration
Solar Beam
Return
Double Team
Reflect
Sludge Bomb
Facade
Rest
Attract
Thief
Sing A Round
Energy Ball
Giga Impact
Flash
Swords Dance
Grass Knot
Swagger
Substitute
Cut
Venom Shock
Hidden Power
Sunny Day
Hyper Beam
Protect
Frustration
Solar Beam
Return
Double Team
Reflect
Sludge Bomb
Facade
Rest
Attract
Thief
Sing A Round
Energy Ball
Giga Impact
Flash
Swords Dance
Grass Knot
Swagger
Substitute
Cut
Egg
Encore
Synthesis
Leech Life
Ingrain
Magical Leaf
Worry Seed
Tickle
Weather Ball
Bullet Seed
Natural Gift
Giga Drain
Clear Smog
Power Whip
Synthesis
Leech Life
Ingrain
Magical Leaf
Worry Seed
Tickle
Weather Ball
Bullet Seed
Natural Gift
Giga Drain
Clear Smog
Power Whip
Pre-Evo
Growth
Wrap
Poisonpowder
Stun Spore
Acid
Knock Off
Gastro Acid
Slam
Wring Out
Wrap
Poisonpowder
Stun Spore
Acid
Knock Off
Gastro Acid
Slam
Wring Out
Victreebel- a veteran of the Pokerealm who has barely been viable since the beginning. Can it finally find its niche? Much like the rest of you I have been scouring over stats and movepools the last few days. One of the first Pokes I happen to look at was Victreebel and immediately I noticed Power Whip. With that 120BP Phys move Victy really justifies its 105 Atk stat (highest of all PW users). Other than that, it's pretty much left the same. But some changes to other moves and Pokemon (see: Growth; Ninetales) the flytrap might be able to to at least break into UU.
Can't do anything about the paper thin defense. The hope is that Sunny Day is already set up, but it might be able to do SD support also. It has decent Speed to utilize SD although its far from the fastest Phyll'er. The thing I think Victreebel can excel at is being unpredictable. The movepool is not fabulous, but the utility of Victreebel can range from straight up band/specs attacker, mixed attacker, boosting attacker, or status inducer/utility.
The reason I have a little faith in this previously never-used is that Venusaur has long been considered a very solid candidate in the UU tier. I finally got around to reading the Venusaur thread and saw that people were geeked because he might be able to keep Power Whip and get Chlorophyll. The Other V is very similar in movepool, attacking stats, and Ability (although Venus is 10 base points faster) but still offers enough to set it part by hitting a little harder.
Most of the old movesets still work so I'll do a couple featuring Power Whip
Mixed
@Life Orb
4HP/142Atk/110 SpAtk/ 252Sp - would need tweaking
Lonely or Mild
Power Whip
Leaf Storm/Solar Beam
Sludge Bomb
HP Fire
Best user of the unheralded Whip/Bomb combo.
@Choice Band
4HP/252Atk/252Sp
Adamant
Power Whip
HP Fire
Return
Knock Off/Facade
:D Its a stretch
Booster
@Leftovers
4HP/252Atk/252Sp
Adamant/Lonely
Encore/Sleep Powder
Swords Dance/Growth
Power Whip
Return/Sludge Bomb
Honestly could sweep (a team of Swamperts) if set up nicely.
Toxic Trickery
252 SpAtk/252 Sp
@Leftovers
Sleep Powder/Stun Spore/Knock Off/Gastro Acid
Toxic
Venom Shock
Power Whip/Solar Beam/HP Fire
Get the enemy to switch into Toxic, then Shock them...probably too gimmicky.
Wuddaya think? Is this plant finally worth using because of Power Whip and the awesome ability? Or still mediocre as ever?