Do you know who else is so good it makes a whole slew of Pokémon unviable? Deoxys-S. Why use any entry hazard lead besides it or Forretress?
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Kindly read my post, which Kefka was referring to, for the reasoning supporting his own post. He didn't quote it so as not to extend the page, I presume.
It's also very short-sighted indeed to assume that if, say, an entire weather currently centralising the metagame is removed, that "nothing relevant would've changed" in regards to any other potential suspect, particularly those currently held in check by incredibly fast and powerful weather sweepers.
Because other things can perform other roles outside of leading as well, and when Magic Coat is so beast, speed is less important as a lead
Deoxys-S has Magic Coat
If, if, and if we ban Reuniclus, everyone will use Duosion. Even Solosis has a niche.
If, if, and if we ban Reuniclus, everyone will use Duosion. Even Solosis has a niche.
You're not even using proof to back up your statements. Everything you've used to "prove" that Rankurusu isn't broken hasn't even been good proof. You're resorting to stupid hyperbole to try and validate your points. You don't need perfect prediction with Rank. Rank can come in on everything on a stall team, and a lot of offensive teams nowadays too. I'll repeat, Nattorei is on every team and Rankurusu comes in for free and gets in a few Calm Minds or Recovers back to full health. The combination of Focus Blast and Psycho Shock is more than enough to deal with basically the entire metagame.
And your FUN argument is just pathetic and does nothing but diminishes your credibility. If you didn't qualify because you wanted to have fun, what are you doing arguing competitive Pokemon policy? Stick to having fun and using whatever you want, don't try and sway people that are actively determining where things should be tiered. Hyperbole isn't getting you anywhere in proving your "point".
I love how nobody is using logs to back up that Reuniclus is broken.
And Inconsistent and Doryuuzu had tons of logs complaining about sweeps by them, but strangely I see none for Reuniclus.
And Inconsistent and Doryuuzu had tons of logs complaining about sweeps by them, but strangely I see none for Reuniclus.
Why would you run Magic Coat when you have the fastest Taunt in the game? Don't be stupid. Magic Coat eliminates the need for speed, it isn't really useful on Deo-S
After playing a lot (and reading most of the posts in this thread), I am worried that people simply do not want to try out "interesting" remedies to their problems and would prefer to just endlessly complain about how they can't beat something and, clearly, it is broken (because of course everyone is an expert battler and losses are only incurred due to bogus luck or broken stuff). Consider the following scenarios:
"Yes, I have problems with Reuniclus or Conkeldurr. No, of course I'm not going to use Spiritomb as a counter, it's Spiritomb."
"Yes, I have problems with Excadrill or Landloss. No, of course I'm not going to use Bronzong as a counter, it's Bronzong."
"Yes, I have issues with Rain or Sand. No, I'm obviously not going to stick a weather move on my team, don't be stupid."
Honestly, I'm just advocating a little more open-mindedness on the part of the community as a whole. Obviously running a pure sand team and getting beaten by TR Reuniclus is going to be brutal but you should _adapt_ instead of rushing in and getting beaten by the next one.
"Yes, I have problems with Reuniclus or Conkeldurr. No, of course I'm not going to use Spiritomb as a counter, it's Spiritomb."
"Yes, I have problems with Excadrill or Landloss. No, of course I'm not going to use Bronzong as a counter, it's Bronzong."
"Yes, I have issues with Rain or Sand. No, I'm obviously not going to stick a weather move on my team, don't be stupid."
Honestly, I'm just advocating a little more open-mindedness on the part of the community as a whole. Obviously running a pure sand team and getting beaten by TR Reuniclus is going to be brutal but you should _adapt_ instead of rushing in and getting beaten by the next one.
How about you shut up and *try* to play a bit, then. I'm not saying I want Reuniclus (or is it Reuniculus? fucking new names) banned, but you're really not helping repeating yourself with "I want logs derp".
I know someone who is "pro-Rankurusu" who loved saying that. Oh, the irony.
So you would have everyone run counters to everyone and have their entire team built up of Bronzongs and Spiritomb, and therefore terrible against teams that don't use those specific pokes countered by those pokes. Congrats on completely missing the points being made by every single person arguing for the banning of something
If you don't find playing Pokémon to be fun, I have a few ideas for you:
- Shut up
- Stop spamming this thread
- Go do something else
Edit: Outside of beating Rank, Spiritomb has major issues due to his lack of useful resistances. Immunities to Fighting and Psychic are all right, but his defenses are too low to rely on stats alone. It's a shame, really.
Bronzong has that "it doesn't do anything" issue. In Gen IV, it could Explode to prevent something from using it's tin ass as set-up bait, but now, Explosion is half as powerful, so it doesn't work well. Skarmory beats out Bronzong on the floating Steel front.
What is your stall team then? Because it's apparently super weak to Reuniclus.
And how is having FUN a pathetic argument?
School started and I would have less time to play to I decided to just play to have fun,which is what playing the game is all about.
Stop being such an ass about it.
Yes,fun. Instead of laddering endlessly,I decided to use my old team and tweak with sets.
1.Stop assuming.
2.I don't spam.
3.I'm already doing something.
Um, I'm missing the point?
What I am saying is that if your wonderfully crafted stall team gets destroyed by a Reuniclus then you might consider using Spiritomb as your spin blocker / Reuniclus counter. You shouldn't dismiss a pokemon simply because it has niche roles, especially if the niche roles it has are the exact ones you need in order to succeed. I wouldn't "have everyone run counters to everyone," as you put it. I am simply saying that if you have a problem with some Poke, then there is a chance that an "out of the box" Pokemon may be able to assist you where others would not.
How ironic is it that I have a Hail Tentacruel on my own team?
I said it because it's annoying to use one,it's not like I wont run it myself.
Making your team much worse against everything to counter one thing is not how teams should be built. DUH
CM Roar Latias is bad for all stall teams now?
Cm Roar Latias can't always counter Reuniclus, especially if it carries Shadow Ball
In Spiritomb's case, it's a worse Burunkeru. It beats Rank, but when it comes to bulky Ghost-types/Spinblockers, Keru beats Tomb in literally every other way, and it can beat a few things that Tomb can't (Heatran, for example). Basically, you can run Tomb and beat Rank, or you can run Keru and beat everything else.
lol
I love the general reaction to Reuniclus. The 8 PP, missy move is "Ha Ha You Have To Use Focus Blast" on other Pokémon but on Reuniclus it's "AAH! IT HAS FOCUS BLAST, PSYCHO SHOCK, MAGIC GUARD, RECOVER, CALM MIND, HIGH SPECIAL ATTACK, AND 85 SPECIAL DEFENSE! BROKEN! BROKEN!"
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