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[Zoap]

Should I keep this Celebi:

HP:30 Att:18 Def:31 SpA:30 SpD:31 Spe:30
Hidden Power: Fire 70

Quiet Nature: +SpA -Spe

I'm hesitant to just toss it, but at the same time -Spe is annoying. But I've hit like 15 wrong natures(Adamant etc) and about 15 neutrals. This is the first +SpA so I'd thought I'd ask your guys opinions.

 

[His Eminence Lord Poppington II]

^, well, since there's harm in keeping it (i'm assuming you can't go get another), i'd continue until you got bold/timid/modest.

 

[ChristianMartin]

Here are all the possible flawless timid spreads.

PID: 101433b2 (TIMID, ability 0) 31/28/31/31/31/31 (Seed: 83050357 Method 1: 2643, J (synch): 2440, J (no synch): 2504, K (synch): 2440, K (no synch): 2476) HP DRAGON 68
PID: c5ee7cf6 (TIMID, ability 0) 31/14/31/31/31/31 (Seed: 010b042f Method 1: 14, J (synch): 11, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 3, K (no synch): None) HP DRAGON 70
PID: 7942ef72 (TIMID, ability 0) 31/31/31/31/31/31 (Seed: d2140289 Method 1: 114, J (synch): 71, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 71, K (no synch): 87) HP DARK 70
PID: 4cada8e9 (TIMID, ability 1) 31/12/31/31/31/31 (Seed: 0e000277 Method 1: 2185, J (synch): 2140, J (no synch): 2160, K (synch): 2140, K (no synch): 2158) HP DRAGON 68
PID: 9f12a38c (TIMID, ability 0) 31/17/31/31/31/31 (Seed: 260503a0 Method 1: 452, J (synch): 259, J (no synch): 265, K (synch): 259, K (no synch): 283) HP DARK 68
PID: 74714af2 (TIMID, ability 0) 31/9/31/31/31/31 (Seed: 44000295 Method 1: 755, J (synch): 740, J (no synch): 742, K (synch): 738, K (no synch): None) HP DARK 68
PID: e955d07c (TIMID, ability 0) 31/7/31/31/31/31 (Seed: b115045e Method 1: 197, J (synch): 116, J (no synch): 164, K (synch): 116, K (no synch): None) HP DARK 70

I recommend using this one since it's the one with the lowest frame on method K without the need of a syncher.
PID: 7942ef72 (TIMID, ability 0) 31/31/31/31/31/31 (Seed: d2140289 Method 1: 114, J (synch): 71, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 71, K (no synch): 87) HP DARK 70

Thank you very much. When I run JavaRNG and it takes forever to produce a seed list, this is what I get:

105404007F 101433b2 (TIMID, ability 0) 31/28/31/31/31/31 (Seed: 461307fc Frame: 719) HP DRAGON 68
122607834F c5ee7cf6 (TIMID, ability 0) 31/14/31/31/31/31 (Seed: 10b042f Frame: 17) HP DRAGON 70
176562488F 7942ef72 (TIMID, ability 0) 31/31/31/31/31/31 (Seed: d2140289 Frame: 117) HP DARK 70
246686781F 4cada8e9 (TIMID, ability 1) 31/12/31/31/31/31 (Seed: 9311077c Frame: 293) HP DRAGON 68
2568556387F 9f12a38c (TIMID, ability 0) 31/17/31/31/31/31 (Seed: 6910088b Frame: 238) HP DARK 68
3005056245F 74714af2 (TIMID, ability 0) 31/9/31/31/31/31 (Seed: eb1105b7 Frame: 260) HP DARK 68
4205051834F e955d07c (TIMID, ability 0) 31/7/31/31/31/31 (Seed: b115045e Frame: 200) HP DARK 70

It doesn't show anything for synchronizers or Methods. I just saw the Frame 17 and decided to use it.

If I use the seed you provided, and I have to advance the frame 116 times, would that be me just making that many Elm calls? I don't wanna be a bother or anything, I just really wanna understand this process.

 

[DarthChocoboz]

Can someone link me toasts timer?

 

[Dea]

If I use the seed you provided, and I have to advance the frame 116 times, would that be me just making that many Elm calls? I don't wanna be a bother or anything, I just really wanna understand this process.

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PID: 7942ef72 (TIMID, ability 0) 31/31/31/31/31/31 (Seed: d2140289 Method 1: 114, J (synch): 71, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 71, K (no synch): 87) HP DARK 70

Why would you advance 116 frames if the IVs are on frame 87?

EDIT: Ok I got it. 117 is for METHOD ONE, Kyogre on HGSS is METHOD K and no, I guess the video also didn't say that. Just go and read an RNG guide: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2751950&postcount=8

 

[ChristianMartin]

0.0''

PID: 7942ef72 (TIMID, ability 0) 31/31/31/31/31/31 (Seed: d2140289 Method 1: 114, J (synch): 71, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 71, K (no synch): 87) HP DARK 70

Why would you advance 116 frames if the IVs are on frame 87?

EDIT: Ok I got it. 117 is for METHOD ONE, Kyogre on HGSS is METHOD K and no, I guess the video also didn't say that. Just go and read an RNG guide: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2751950&postcount=8

I think the problem is, JavaRNG doesn't give me the same report as Eminem gave me.

 

[Dea]

I think the problem is, JavaRNG doesn't give me the same report as Eminem gave me.

Please, download Wichu's pokeRNG. You'll find the link on the first page of this topic.

 

[Toast++]

Can someone link me toasts timer?

Link'd.

 

[Magiphart]

So I'm going to try to hit my first delay. I will be attempting to rng abuse The roaming Latios in Soulsilver. I have already made it appear so i will need to do champion's room rng abuse. I'm not entirely sure how to do this, and i would greatly appreciate if someone could walk me through this (ex. pms). I have the needed tools, but i am really confuse when reading about this. So please pm me and help.

 

[Riastylis]

Could someone please help me?

First off, I'm new here, so hello everyone. Anyway, I need some help. I am trying to hatch a Shiny Brave Female Charmander.
Date- 2011 02 22
Time- 03:02:50
Seed- 6003021e
Delay- 531
Frame- 1

After putting this into the PikaTimer, I started the clock up and the time provide at the same time. When I got into the game, I called Elm and got the following results. K, P, P, P, E, P, P, P, K, E. (No roamers and no moving NPCs) I realized that they matched, so I put my two pokemon (A Japanese ditto with a US Charmander). I stayed on route 34 making sure not to get into any random battles, or have moving NPCs nearby. After the call, I saved in front of him and picked up the egg. I went through the same process of hatching my egg as I did waiting for the call. When the egg hatched, I got a Brave Female Charmander, but not a shiny one. I have my ID, and SID. (SID was obtained through hatching a shiny Caterpie mated with same Japanese Ditto used in this situation.)

 

[Magiphart]

Are you sure your ditto is Japanese or are you just judging by the characters in its name?

 

[Dark Ray]

@Riastylis, I don't believe you can figure out your SID from bred shinies, try asking in SQSR for someone to check your SID instead.

 

[Riastylis]

Are you sure your ditto is Japanese or are you just judging by the characters in its name?

I'm positive it is because when I go to Ditto's info in the pokedex, it has both English and Japanese.

And Dark Ray, what I did for the shiny was I put it in a lvl 100 battle in wifi, and wrote down the stats. I entered all of that and its nature into the RNG Reporter (IV's are 0 since the battle temporarily raised it to lvl 100.) and it gave me a SID.

 

[Dark Ray]

@Riastylis, look here where it says preliminaries, it says you need a non-chained non-bred shiny.

 

[Riastylis]

@Riastylis, look here where it says preliminaries, it says you need a non-chained non-bred shiny.

Oh. Okay, I didn't know that. I'm sorry if I seemed rude, Dark Ray.

 

[Magiphart]

Just a reminder is still need help with latios...........

 

[Eminem]

I think the problem is, JavaRNG doesn't give me the same report as Eminem gave me.

It's because you're using pokeRNG.
If you want the same results I get you need pokeRNGDP which was made to get more specific results in 4th gen.

 

[PokeTroopa]

Im having trouble RNGing celebi, the same problem I was having with Entei. Im getting the delay right, but Im not getting the stats that I want. For celebi, the seed Im using is 440c0373, so delay of 872 and then a frame of 37. Im doing 36 page flips before entering the game and talking to the deliveryman before anyone moves, but Im still not getting the right celebi. help please

 

[Wildfire]

Just making sure, when you sweet scent a pokemon in grass, water, etc. you can't control what pokemon comes up?

 

[Kaphotics]

Just making sure, when you sweet scent a pokemon in grass, water, etc. you can't control what pokemon comes up?

You can, it's encounter slots.

 

[Dark Ray]

@PokeTroopa, journal flips advance 2 frames for every page with a captured pokemon on it so you only need to do 18 flips, if you're still not hitting it the NPCs most be advancing the frame so you'll need to figure out by how much and adjust for that.

 

[Wildfire]

You can, it's encounter slots.

ok thanks. that makes things a lot easier.

 

[PokeTroopa]

@PokeTroopa, journal flips advance 2 frames for every page with a captured pokemon on it so you only need to do 18 flips, if you're still not hitting it the NPCs most be advancing the frame so you'll need to figure out by how much and adjust for that.

Yeah I got the 18 page flips part, but I dont see any NPCs moving in the pokemart (im in jubilife) and Im still not getting the right result. Do the NPCs advance the frame without moving somehow and Im just not seeing it?

 

[Zoap]

PokeTroopa: If they turn/walk, they advance the frame. That is partially why I like the Sandgem Mart as the one moving NPC doesn't turn except to walk, where as other ones just turn to turn. What I do is I wait in front of the deliveryman until the NPC moves and then save right after that way I know I have some time after the journal to collect without any advances. Also roamers could be responsible for the 1 frame.


In other news, my own Celebi is mad trolling me with Adamant nature. I've got it about 10 times now, compared to the one Quiet I got early which of course is -Spe. :(

 

[Toast++]

Yeah I got the 18 page flips part, but I dont see any NPCs moving in the pokemart (im in jubilife) and Im still not getting the right result. Do the NPCs advance the frame without moving somehow and Im just not seeing it?

NPCs can advance the frame without appearing to move. It happens when the call to the RNG results in the same direction that the NPC is already facing. Anyway, there is no safe mart in DPPt.