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A depressing update, made 1303 and decided I'd try and push for the top 80. I've now lost 10-15 matches in a row, not due to bad play but rather random crits, fire blast misses, HJK misses(5 matches lost to this puppy alone). So now ive tilted down to low 1100's.
I'm beyond frustrated on how haxy today has been and so I'm quitting with the three mons I had(probably for eternity), I may just make a new alt and register a new mon, though the way things are going I really don't want to play anymore(ever).
EDIT: Took a break for a bit and got back up to 1200's. Hopefully I can stay clean next week and make another charge.
I'm beyond frustrated on how haxy today has been and so I'm quitting with the three mons I had(probably for eternity), I may just make a new alt and register a new mon, though the way things are going I really don't want to play anymore(ever).
EDIT: Took a break for a bit and got back up to 1200's. Hopefully I can stay clean next week and make another charge.
I know what you mean, I've been playing with Bulk Up Breloom all day and every time it gets a few bulk-ups under its belt, something crits it for the kill at full health.
hello there fellow pokemon players, i am happy to present
THAT I HAVE BEATEN THIS CHALLENGE!!!!!
screenshot here:
team i used i will post in hide tags, and i will edit in my answers to those questions texas answered
virizion is just a beast if it sets up, pretty antimeta providing a check to things like rotom-W and shit i used a CM varient because its one of my favorite sets in BW, this i the highest ive ever been in OU, ever. so im very proud of myself for getting in the top 80.
team here:
THAT I HAVE BEATEN THIS CHALLENGE!!!!!
screenshot here:
team i used i will post in hide tags, and i will edit in my answers to those questions texas answered
virizion is just a beast if it sets up, pretty antimeta providing a check to things like rotom-W and shit i used a CM varient because its one of my favorite sets in BW, this i the highest ive ever been in OU, ever. so im very proud of myself for getting in the top 80.
team here:
Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- Thunderbolt
- Psyshock
Slowbro (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Fire Blast
- Slack Off
Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Spikes
- Whirlwind
- Roost
- Brave Bird
Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SDef / 8 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Stealth Rock
- Lava Plume
- Earth Power
- Roar
Gastrodon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Toxic
Virizion @ Leftovers
Trait: Justified
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Giga Drain
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- Thunderbolt
- Psyshock
Slowbro (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Fire Blast
- Slack Off
Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Spikes
- Whirlwind
- Roost
- Brave Bird
Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SDef / 8 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Stealth Rock
- Lava Plume
- Earth Power
- Roar
Gastrodon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Toxic
Virizion @ Leftovers
Trait: Justified
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Giga Drain
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]
Molk plays OU, and apparently he's good at it :D Molk is now the 7th Hall of Famer for the month of March!
I see you went with a balanced team approach, Molk - have you ever faced a stall team? I can see them giving this team trouble. CM Reuniclus seems like it can potentially stall and possibly sweep. You may want to cut down on some defensive coverage for some additional offense, or possibly replace SubCM Jirachi for a wallbreaker. Perhaps a CBTar?
Solid team, though, Molk - the defensive core is solid. I would encourage you to continue laddering with this team to see if you can break the 1400s and enter Silver Class :D
I see you went with a balanced team approach, Molk - have you ever faced a stall team? I can see them giving this team trouble. CM Reuniclus seems like it can potentially stall and possibly sweep. You may want to cut down on some defensive coverage for some additional offense, or possibly replace SubCM Jirachi for a wallbreaker. Perhaps a CBTar?
Solid team, though, Molk - the defensive core is solid. I would encourage you to continue laddering with this team to see if you can break the 1400s and enter Silver Class :D
thanks for the advice pocket!, i have in fact faced a stall team (although it was poorly built and had no haze mon >_>), and jirachi did quite well as a stallbreaker, being immune to tspikes and all that, CM reun is really a 50/50 with jirachi, if it his all 8 focus blasts and breaks my sub every time, im fucked, but otherwise i didnt have muhc trouble with it.
what i DID have trouble with was NP+3 attacks celebi (dont say its not common, it is higher up on the ladder ;_;) my team cant touch it bar virizion once it sets up :(. if you have a way i can fix that, i would really appreciate it.
btw i broke 1400 by one point last night, just let me get the screenshot up
edit:
the two screenshots look different because they are from different computers btw
edit: i also want to say i replaced jirachi with a CM reuniclus, to handle stall better in general, and to act as a secondary check to terrakion, doesnt help me much with celebi though :(
edit: now at 1430, #29, no screenshot cause i tilted afterwards to crits
what i DID have trouble with was NP+3 attacks celebi (dont say its not common, it is higher up on the ladder ;_;) my team cant touch it bar virizion once it sets up :(. if you have a way i can fix that, i would really appreciate it.
btw i broke 1400 by one point last night, just let me get the screenshot up
edit:
the two screenshots look different because they are from different computers btw
edit: i also want to say i replaced jirachi with a CM reuniclus, to handle stall better in general, and to act as a secondary check to terrakion, doesnt help me much with celebi though :(
edit: now at 1430, #29, no screenshot cause i tilted afterwards to crits
Man this looks fun. Challenge accepted.
Pokemon Online Username: [PR]NyttyN
Hall of Fame Standing: N/A
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Gorebyss / Gardevoir
Current Ladder Standing: Still dead last
Hahah. I think I'm completely insane. I hope this works.
Gorebyss
Standard shellsmash set
will fill in more later
Gardevoir
Nickname: Sona
252 Sp Atk
252 Def
4 SpD
Calm Mind
Stored Power
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast(What's that? Focus miss? MAGNIFYING LENS)/Echoed Voice(Oh god so trolltastic. Tank, and then once
tanky, SPAM ECHOED VOICE FOR UNSTOPPABLE ROLLOUT) Focus Blast prefered, but Echoed Voice is good for a laugh
@Magnifying Lens/Psychic plate
Trace
Bold(MOAR DEF)/Calm(MOAR SPDEF)/Modest(MOAR SPATK) Nature
Pokemon Online Username: [PR]NyttyN
Hall of Fame Standing: N/A
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Gorebyss / Gardevoir
Current Ladder Standing: Still dead last
Hahah. I think I'm completely insane. I hope this works.
Gorebyss
Standard shellsmash set
will fill in more later
Gardevoir
Nickname: Sona
252 Sp Atk
252 Def
4 SpD
Calm Mind
Stored Power
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast(What's that? Focus miss? MAGNIFYING LENS)/Echoed Voice(Oh god so trolltastic. Tank, and then once
tanky, SPAM ECHOED VOICE FOR UNSTOPPABLE ROLLOUT) Focus Blast prefered, but Echoed Voice is good for a laugh
@Magnifying Lens/Psychic plate
Trace
Bold(MOAR DEF)/Calm(MOAR SPDEF)/Modest(MOAR SPATK) Nature
Update time!
Swapped out from venmoth to Gorebyss. Just wasn't working out. Gorebyss, however, does. 6 stat boosts from shell smash means a 160 100% acc STAB special attack right off the bat. A 160 100% STAB that is boosted by 2 special stages and 2 speed stages.
I don't need to tell you why this is hilariously awesome.
Swapped out from venmoth to Gorebyss. Just wasn't working out. Gorebyss, however, does. 6 stat boosts from shell smash means a 160 100% acc STAB special attack right off the bat. A 160 100% STAB that is boosted by 2 special stages and 2 speed stages.
I don't need to tell you why this is hilariously awesome.
@nyttyn; Glad to hear Gorebyss is working so well for you! Are you still running Gardevoir as well or was she dropped too?
@coughing; You need to start a new alt on the ladder to join this project. The ability to start at almost 1300 points is unfair to the other people working with Zapdos.
@coughing; You need to start a new alt on the ladder to join this project. The ability to start at almost 1300 points is unfair to the other people working with Zapdos.
Still running gardevoir. Stored power 2 stronk.
Pokemon Online Username: winterpetrel2
Hall of Fame Standing: none
Dark Horse Pokemon currently working with: Porygon-Z (Slowbro as well, but the team is built around Porygon
Current Ladder Standing: 1000
Hall of Fame Standing: none
Dark Horse Pokemon currently working with: Porygon-Z (Slowbro as well, but the team is built around Porygon
Current Ladder Standing: 1000
This is currently my team:
Ferrothorn (M) @ Shed Shell
Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef
Hardy Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Power Whip
- Gyro Ball
- Leech Seed
Magnezone @ Choice Specs
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 148 HP / 252 SAtk / 108 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Volt Switch
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power [Fire]
Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Taunt
Scrafty (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shed Skin
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Drain Punch
- Rest
- Crunch
- Dragon Dance
Reuniclus (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Magic Guard
EVs: 192 HP / 184 Def / 128 SAtk / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Focus Blast
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Psyshock
Jellicent (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Recover
- Will-O-Wisp
- Taunt
Ferrothorn (M) @ Shed Shell
Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef
Hardy Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Power Whip
- Gyro Ball
- Leech Seed
Magnezone @ Choice Specs
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 148 HP / 252 SAtk / 108 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Volt Switch
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power [Fire]
Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Taunt
Scrafty (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shed Skin
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Drain Punch
- Rest
- Crunch
- Dragon Dance
Reuniclus (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Magic Guard
EVs: 192 HP / 184 Def / 128 SAtk / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Focus Blast
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Psyshock
Jellicent (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Recover
- Will-O-Wisp
- Taunt
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PokemonOnline Username: -Xanderpitz-
HoF Standing: None
Darkhorse Pokemon: Gastrodon
Current Rank: 1000
Alright, so as a strange turn of events, my entire team has ended up being composed of Dark Horse pokemon, so I guess I'm going to take this challenge to the next level!!! I've decided I am going to run a Trick Room team for these guys since my original 2 choices were Gastrodon and Bouffalant and it ended up seeming like a good option. Here are my starting sets:
Gastrodon @ Life Orb
Ability: Storm Drain
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/4 Sp. Atk/252 Sp. Def
IVs: 0 Speed
- Toxic
- Earth Power
- Surf
- Recover
Recover balances out LO recoil and its dual STABs have pretty decent coverage on their own, so I should be okay.
Bouffalant @ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
Nature: Brave
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Sp. Def
IVs: 0 Speed
- Swords Dance
- Head Charge
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
Sap Sipper counters Gastrodon's 4x Grass weakness and will definitely help a slow behemoth like Bouffalant quickly blast out powerful hits without set-up and (hopefully) still being under TR. The 4 Sp. Def EVs here stop Download from helping the Porygons.
Victini @ Leftovers
Ability: Victory Star
Nature: Brave
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Sp. Def
IVs: 0 Speed
- Trick Room
- V-Create
- U-turn
- Wild Charge
Trick Room on Victini is obviously set-up for the team and U-turn allows me to maintain momentum. 4 Sp. Def stops Download here as well.
Cofagrigus @ Leftovers
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/4 Sp. Atk/252 Sp. Def
IVs: 0 Speed
- Trick Room
- Will-o-wisp
- Hex
- Haze
Seeing as Trick Room teams can leave ample opportunity for the opponent to set-up when switching around, I figured I could cripple physical attackers as well as have a utility against boosting Special Attackers as well.
Slowbro @ Life Orb
Ability: Regenerator
Nature: Quiet
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Sp. Atk
IVs: 0 Speed
- Trick Room
- Scald
- Psychic
- Slack Off
Scald helps with Cofagrigus's cause while its Dual STABs provide tons of power.
Durant @ Life Orb
Ability: Hustle
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 8 HP/252 Atk/248 Speed
- Hone Claws
- X-Scissor
- Crunch
- Stone Edge
In case I can't set up a Trick Room, I need a fast attacker that can hit hard. With a unique base 109 speed I outpace plenty of OU pokes. After a Hone Claws, his attacking stat is a whopping 713 and X-Scissor and Crunch have 106.67% accuracy, while Stone Edge is still raised at 85.33%.
PokemonOnline Username: -Xanderpitz-
HoF Standing: None
Darkhorse Pokemon: Gastrodon
Current Rank: 1000
Alright, so as a strange turn of events, my entire team has ended up being composed of Dark Horse pokemon, so I guess I'm going to take this challenge to the next level!!! I've decided I am going to run a Trick Room team for these guys since my original 2 choices were Gastrodon and Bouffalant and it ended up seeming like a good option. Here are my starting sets:
Gastrodon @ Life Orb
Ability: Storm Drain
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/4 Sp. Atk/252 Sp. Def
IVs: 0 Speed
- Toxic
- Earth Power
- Surf
- Recover
Recover balances out LO recoil and its dual STABs have pretty decent coverage on their own, so I should be okay.
Bouffalant @ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
Nature: Brave
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Sp. Def
IVs: 0 Speed
- Swords Dance
- Head Charge
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
Sap Sipper counters Gastrodon's 4x Grass weakness and will definitely help a slow behemoth like Bouffalant quickly blast out powerful hits without set-up and (hopefully) still being under TR. The 4 Sp. Def EVs here stop Download from helping the Porygons.
Victini @ Leftovers
Ability: Victory Star
Nature: Brave
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Sp. Def
IVs: 0 Speed
- Trick Room
- V-Create
- U-turn
- Wild Charge
Trick Room on Victini is obviously set-up for the team and U-turn allows me to maintain momentum. 4 Sp. Def stops Download here as well.
Cofagrigus @ Leftovers
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/4 Sp. Atk/252 Sp. Def
IVs: 0 Speed
- Trick Room
- Will-o-wisp
- Hex
- Haze
Seeing as Trick Room teams can leave ample opportunity for the opponent to set-up when switching around, I figured I could cripple physical attackers as well as have a utility against boosting Special Attackers as well.
Slowbro @ Life Orb
Ability: Regenerator
Nature: Quiet
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Sp. Atk
IVs: 0 Speed
- Trick Room
- Scald
- Psychic
- Slack Off
Scald helps with Cofagrigus's cause while its Dual STABs provide tons of power.
Durant @ Life Orb
Ability: Hustle
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 8 HP/252 Atk/248 Speed
- Hone Claws
- X-Scissor
- Crunch
- Stone Edge
In case I can't set up a Trick Room, I need a fast attacker that can hit hard. With a unique base 109 speed I outpace plenty of OU pokes. After a Hone Claws, his attacking stat is a whopping 713 and X-Scissor and Crunch have 106.67% accuracy, while Stone Edge is still raised at 85.33%.
Right, gonna restart this challenge
Alt: The dark spud
HoFR: none... yet.
Pokemon currently working with: Luxray
Alt: The dark spud
HoFR: none... yet.
Pokemon currently working with: Luxray
Okay, so I'm scratching the Trick Room idea and I'm going to replace Cofagrigus, Durant, Gastrodon, Bouffalant and Slowbro with Dugtrio, Blastoise, Amoongus, Altaria, and Sableye. I managed to get to 1160, but that's about it. I'm switching Victini to a Choice Band set as well.
Still have a full team of Dark Horses though!
Still have a full team of Dark Horses though!
Pokemon Online Username: Cosmicfool
Hall of Fame Standing: None as of yet!
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Lilligant
Current Ladder Standing: 1000
Heres the stats on her
Lilligant (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 120 HP / 252 SAtk / 136 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Sleep Powder
- Growth
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Giga Drain
Cheers
Hall of Fame Standing: None as of yet!
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Lilligant
Current Ladder Standing: 1000
Heres the stats on her
Lilligant (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 120 HP / 252 SAtk / 136 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Sleep Powder
- Growth
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Giga Drain
Cheers
Okay, so new month and I'm saying screw it to the other team.
New Alt: Xanderpitz1
HoFR: None yet
Pokemon: Mawile, Medicham, Mr. Mime, and Ninjask
This is my Baton pass team I've been using with Vaporeon and Espeon. I made these sets and if you look up the usage stats, my Mawile and Medicham sets are both #1 most used while Ninjask is 7th most used for lead and Mr. Mime is 2nd for regular usage
New Alt: Xanderpitz1
HoFR: None yet
Pokemon: Mawile, Medicham, Mr. Mime, and Ninjask
This is my Baton pass team I've been using with Vaporeon and Espeon. I made these sets and if you look up the usage stats, my Mawile and Medicham sets are both #1 most used while Ninjask is 7th most used for lead and Mr. Mime is 2nd for regular usage
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