Articuno and Charizard are good, provided you can keep Stealth Rock off the field. Gardevoir also has better defenses than Kadabra, as well as access to Focus Blast
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Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer - NU Edition
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You're not going to find the 'perfect' special sweeper that's both fast and bulky in NU, because most of those belong to upper tiers. You can actually organize all of the Pokemon in NU by their Speed by clicking on this link and then clicking on the Spe tab on the top (it works for any of the stats, or even the typing!).
Some of my personal favorite fast special sweepers are Serperior (although it's not that good in this metagame because of Cinccino), Simipour, and Swoobat.
What Pokemon are faster then Gorebyss after it has Shell-Smashed that can OHKO it with a choice Scarf?
Rotom-S, Cinccino, Braviary, Sawk, and a few others iirc.
though with gothitelle running around right now, putting a scarf on gardevoir is kind of shaky.
cinccino is the first thing that comes to mind.
If Gorebyss is Timid then both Braviary and Sawk fail to outspeed it. They also fail to OHKO White Herb versions.
Any Pokemon with more than 298 or more speed (86 or more Base Speed assuming a speed boosting nature) can revenge kill even Timid Gorebyss as long as it can OHKO. Rotom-S, Cinccino (White Herb versions only after Stealth Rock), Zebstrika, Electabuzz, Haunter and Raichu all come to mind.
Do people only use subpar spinners like Wartortle because there's only one really viable spinner (Armaldo) and they can't find room for that?
I can only think of two reasons for why people use stuff like Wartortle. It's the only spinner available that isn't weak to SR (not counting Tyrogue for obvious reasons), and some people assume that Wartortle beats Golurk because Water-types > Ground-types. Even though Wartortle loses to it.
A lot of bad players use Wartortle because it's not weak to Stealth Rock and can hit Golurk super effectively. However, it is a horrible bulky Water outside of Rapid Spinning and can't spin against Golurk half the time because Scald doesn't do enough and gets 2HKOed by Earthquake. Personally, I would never consider using it but some people do.
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Other than Golurk, Wartortle can't beat SubDisable Haunter (Haunter's most common set atm) and it's just plain set-up fodder for CM or NP Misdreavus. It's lack of recovery and offensive pressure makes it a bad spinner. I'd also like to say that Torkoal is also a semi-viable spinner due to it actually doing something other than spinning such as setting up SR or checking certain pokemon due to its high physical bulk. It loses to Golurk obviously but Will-o-Wisp cripples Golurk greatly.
Your best bet would probably using Torkoal or Armaldo who both have good physical defense and beat Golurk switching in pretty well (Torkoal with Shell Smash mainly). Both of them are Stealth Rock weak, unfortunately.
Wartortle also has good defense but loses to Golurk more often than not so it's not that good of a spinner, but it's still usable.
Wartortle also has good defense but loses to Golurk more often than not so it's not that good of a spinner, but it's still usable.
there are no 'good' rapid spinners :(
torkoal, armaldo, or wartortle are your best bets
TWO SECONDS god damnit
Torkoal and Armaldo are two good choices. They can also set up Stealth Rock too, which is a plus.
Both are viable options, it just depends on what role Ampharos has on your team. If you are using Ampharos for its good bulk and are playing it defensively I would use Discharge. If you are using Ampharos for its high Special Attack and using it offensively I would use Thunderbolt
Zangoose already has much more Speed. If you want Speed, use it instead. Let Ursaring stick to what it is the king of: village crushing. Guts all the way.
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