Definitely not the only one, I love Breloom! I've used all his sets; Low Sweep LO, SD Fighting Gem, Sub SD, and even the classic Sub Punch which is actually something I've been using on my current team to test its effectiveness in the current meta game, and surprisingly it does really well! Once a Substitute is up, something will always be put to sleep, and Focus Punch is dangerous even resisted. It can be a solid 2HKO to Max HP/Def Skarmory after Stealth Rocks, which is pretty impressive with Skarmory's insane bulk. Although it may not have the power to revenge kill, it acts as an extremely effectively wall breaker that if given the right team support, can wreck havoc on teams. Besides, I find Scizor a better Pokemon to take out Kyurem-B anyway, and isn't in trouble if it somehow doesn't OHKO it, unlike Breloom who has pathetic bulk and defensive typing. Still, Breloom is definitely one of the top threats in the OU meta game right now, and is a pretty good check to Kyurem-B.The Low Sweep set. Opens up teams like mad, and you don't even have to predict either. SD sets are pretty good too, they're especially clutch lategame.
shit where are all the breloom supporters. I can't be the only guy paping everyone with breloom.
Honestly, I can't see him getting much usage in the future. With things like Scizor, Breloom, and Terrakion being on almost every team Kyurem-B's true power only seems to be unleashed when behind a Sub. Yes he's one heck of a powerhouse, but I don't see why people would rather use him over Dragonite who hits hard and has a great move pool. I wouldn't worry about him too much, as I hardly ever see him in Suspect. He'll see most of his usage in the first week or so, and then he'll die down if he's unbanned (which most likely he will).After playing about 70 matches and reaching reqs on the suspect ladder; I really haven't been enjoying the current metagame at all. It seems to have become rather stale and I often see the same teams over and over again. I believe that Kyurem-B has somewhat constricted the diversity of the metagame. However, although I think a metagame with no Kyurem-B would be a more enjoyable one, Kyurem-B is not broken in the current metagame, and banning something that isn't broken just because I don't like it would be rather foolish. I've tried to approach this with an objective state of mind, and I'm hoping that if Kyurem-B is released into OU and it's no longer the centre of attention; people will start straying away from the bog standard teams and bring some creativity into the metagame.
I don't dislike Kyurem-B, I don't think it's broken in the current metagame at all, but the effect it has on the metagame is what I dislike. Even though Kyurem-B wasn't seen too often at all after the first few days, I still saw the same teams over and over again. Yes, I agree Kyurem-B will go down in usage even more if it's released into OU, but the last time it went down in usage it didn't change anything, I'm just hoping it will change this time and more people will try and bring some creativity into the metagame :)Honestly, I can't see him getting much usage in the future. With things like Scizor, Breloom, and Terrakion being on almost every team Kyurem-B's true power only seems to be unleashed when behind a Sub. Yes he's one heck of a powerhouse, but I don't see why people would rather use him over Dragonite who hits hard and has a great move pool. I wouldn't worry about him too much, as I hardly ever see him in Suspect. He'll see most of his usage in the first week or so, and then he'll die down if he's unbanned (which most likely he will).
Ok, I've played matches in standard ou between suspect tests, the meta was much more diverse, and Valentine's rain team as well as DragMag was nowhere near as common. The only variable that has changed between the gap inbetween suspects and this suspect test is Kyurem-B, naturally, one would assume Kyurem-B is at least a bit to blame. Adding in another powerhouse is obviously going to decrease the viability of more defensively inclined teams, so seeing these super generic teams was of no suprise to me. I also see Kyurem-B about 1 in every 3 games, which is much more common than it seems to be for most people. I am starting to doubt my original statement on Kyurem-B, but I really don't care whether I'm right or not in saying Kyurem-B is a bit responsible for the less diverse metagame. I just hope than if it is released into OU; some creative minds will prove me wrong.I have another dumb theory on why we're seeing less diversity, I think a reason the metagame was more diverse in the last suspect test was because we allowed Garchomp with Sand Veil on it. IMO it gave Sand teams a reason to exist other than removing Sun/Rain. Could that be a factor?
Blaming Kyurem-B for "ruining" this meta when he's not even all that active is just silly to me.
I agree with this. It is not Kyurem-B, the reason about this metagame is the people. In my opinion, It is because the changes have been a lot in little time. People know that in some weeks the metagame will change and they choose the easy walk. "Why I do a new team which be effective only 2 weeks? I take this and I'm ready."Great Mighty Doom >:| You can't blame the lack of creativity in the ladder on Kyu-B - it's the inherent culture of players to take the lazy route and spam teams that are known to be effective in the standard meta. Kyurem-B's presence has nothing to do with this at all. If anything Kyurem-B has made the life of Rain Offense slightly more difficult, yet it still hasn't stopped people from spamming bog standard Rain teams. Kyu-B has very little effect on the metagame, from what I've seen.
Lol I'm not calling you at all Stone, cause I'm glad this is where you have settled. But for all of you who still question "why we suspect"http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/kyubsuspect.png/
Got no time, i guess ill edit it later to talk bout Kyube, for now, same as everyone, not OP, easy to revenge, crappy typing and movepool you know the deal.
It's not like these common HO teams are particular effective against Kyurem-B (in fact some of them are VERY weak to Kyurem-B) OR that Kyurem-B has a particular stake in the majority of these team styles. Kyurem-B is not the reason why these teams are common, I really do think it's as simple as "Players smartening up" or a the very least, understanding just how strong these Deo-D / Genesect / Rain HO teams truly are. Last round was filled with Sand teams trying to make use out of Sand Veil Garchomp (which admittedly outside of sand veil hax, were fine) or Lavosoffense (which is also fine). Neither of these common team styles necessitated the use "powerful" teams which was why the last round was so diverse. This isn't uncommon; it took players a while to realize just how strong Sand Veil Garchomp is in BW1.Doom and I share very similar opinions about this metagame, so I'll try to help explain (although doom has done a pretty great job....). If you look at the last suspect metagame, the meta was extremely diverse. While teams were copied, there was still a large amount of diversity and different team types. This metagame is almost the exact opposite. Teams are being copied, like always, but I feel it is in part because these are the only viable playstyles at the moment. Really the only attributable difference between the two metagames is Kyurem-B. That is why many people claim that he has a negative influence on the metagame, even if he isn't seen as much. I also remember PK Gaming saying that players had just "smartened up" for this metagame, but that's just not true. Everyone was trying hard last suspect period and doing their best, its also not like BW2 was new or anything and people were just testing random stuff. Players aren't gonna get infinitely smarter in 2 weeks. Doom and I are both just looking for some people to prove us wrong and show that this metagame is in fact creative, and that more than like 5 teams are viable in it.
P.S: I know this is pretty much a restatement of my reqs post/dooms posts but there really isn't any other way to say this, and I do feel like it needs the clarification/restatement.
You may want to calm down a bit and consider rewording this, since you've just said that a Pokemon that is uncounterable cannot possibly be broken.Being uncounterable and being broken are mutually exclusive!!