Flash CAP Pokédex

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What is a Flash CAP? A Flash CAP is a scaled-down version of the standard CAP process, done over the course over a few hours. A Topic Leader guides each stage the Flash CAP's creation, where other people nominate and vote on ideas. These Pokemon are conceptual, and thus, will never be actually available to use on Pokémon Showdown!, the main simulator.

Flash CAP processes have historically been done on instant-messaging systems--IRC, Discord, and Pokemon Showdown!. They are currently a recurring event on the Pokemon Showdown! CAP Project channel.
 
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So... I went into #cap today around 3:30pm and said "let's make a cap :>". People apparently bought it, so we went right into it. We worked for about 45 minutes, then I left to go eat Thanksgiving dinner. After that, we reconvened to finish the final product for about 10 minutes. The final result is as follows. You can check out the pastebin if you like; it's the same information presented here. I'll do a play-by-play at the end. I need to emphasize that this is not an official CAP Pokemon and never will be. It's just something fun we did in the chat to pass the time, nothing more.


Froxbite - The Climate Pokemon
Height: 3'6"
Weight: 80.0 lb.
Egg Group: Fairy

Concept: Hailmon

Discussion: Not a bulky offense mon.

Typing:
Ice / Fire

Abilities:
Flash Fire / Cute Charm / Snow Warning (DW)

Stats:
70 HP / 135 Atk / 63 Def / 120 SpA / 55 SpD / 112 Spe
BST Total: 555

Art:


Sprite:


New Move:
Flare Dash
40 BP Fire - Special Attack
Has +1 Priority

Movepool:
00 Scratch
00 Tail Whip
05 Howl
10 Ember
15 Leer
20 Powder Snow
25 Flame Wheel
30 Icy Wind
35 Flare Dash
35 Ice Shard
40 Encore
45 Baton Pass
50 Flamethrower
55 Will-o-wisp
60 Ice Beam
65 Flare Blitz
70 Icicle Crash

TM01 Hone Claws
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM12 Taunt
TM13 Ice Beam
TM14 Blizzard
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM21 Frustration
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM35 Flamethrower
TM38 Fire Blast
TM42 Facade
TM43 Flame Charge
TM44 Rest
TM48 Round
TM50 Overheat
TM59 Incinerate
TM61 Will-O-Wisp
TM68 Giga Impact
TM75 Swords Dance
TM79 Frost Breath
TM83 Work Up
TM87 Swagger
TM90 Substitute
HM04 Strength

Egg
Hydro Pump

Pokedex Entries:
Black: Its fur coat is desired around the world for its ability to be both warm in the winter and cool in the summer.

White: Its genetic makeup changed when its habitat was destroyed by human activity. It now lives only for revenge.

BW2: Froxbite are known to alter the weather on a whim. People avoid them because of their unstable nature.



So, jas61292 say "ok" to my silly request, so the train got rolling. I asked what our concept should be, and Flarephoenix responded with HAILMON. Our discussion was nonexistent; I said we weren't having a bulky attacker (like every other Gen5 CAP does), so we went with that. jas and I determined immediately that we should do Ice/Fire and were met with little resistance. paintseagull suggested we make some sort of "cute arctic fox that is considered an eco-terrorist because it changes the weather." It was hilarious so we went with it. Some of our artists started getting interested, and CBMeadow whipped up a hilarious "artic cat" in MSPaint in under a minute. That served as the basis for Kadew's final draft, which you can see above. Wyverii was working on a sprite secretly in the background and had to do a complete 180 when Kadew posted her speedpaint.

Meanwhile, we were working hard on the competitive side of things. I posted a rough draft stat spread that had big offensive stats and around 80 defenses and HP. jas helped me tone down the defenses to make it less bulky; we made sure we survive neutral Scizor BP or something. We also wanted to outspeed Terrakion at minimum (suggested by Flarephoenix); I went up to 115; jas brought it down to 112 so we had a 555 BST.

After that, we talked about key moves. I pretty much mandated that we have only Fire and Ice-type STABs with a few other moves. We put in Hydro Pump for some fun coverage, but decided we didn't want anything else for the physical side. Flarephoenix also suggested we have a custom move called "Flare Dash" to give us some other priority outside of Ice Shard. It also gives us a fun niche by taking on Scizor and Sun sweepers. No Close Combat and no set up moves besides Swords Dance a la Weavile. And Howl. Aroooooooooooo

The artists and competitive people reconvened to put everything together. I said in the chat that we'd put up the first three Pokedex entries that anyone typed; we went with on by psg, Kadew, and myself. psg wanted us to do Eco-terrorist Pokemon, but I put a wall on that so we'd go for Climate Pokemon. In return, DHR refused to let me have my 10 foot tall arctic fox, so we settled on 3'6" and 80lbs. jas61292 finished up the final movepool, which was a good rough draft. The level up was nightmareish though, so DHR went in and made some edits to make it more manageable. We went Fairy group because Field has Smeargle and that's a headache. Wyverii finished up her sprite, and we were pretty much done! That's the story of Froxbite. If I can get the entire IRC log, I'll post it here.

What do you think? Well, if you've never visited IRC, you should! You can use Mibbit to join #cap and talk with all the CAP greats in real time. We don't usually make Pokemon like this, but we generally have a good time all around. Hope to see you there =)
 

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For anyone interested in the above, I thought I would post a log of how it came into being. After all, the creation is the fun part.

[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Birkal> we should
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Birkal> make a pokemon :>
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <jas61292> Good idea. Lets do it.
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Birkal> ok
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Birkal> what's the concept
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Flarephoenix> Hailmon
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <paintseagull> hailmon!!!!
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Birkal> alright hailmon
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Flarephoenix> :D
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Flarephoenix> This is going so well.
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Birkal> what type is it?
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <jas61292> Fire/Ice
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <paintseagull> HAIL TYPE
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> Fire/Ice
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> perfect
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Flarephoenix> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> abilities?
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> I presume Snow Warning
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> what else
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Flarephoenix> Just Snow Warning?
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> nahh
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> let's do
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> Flash Fire
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> imo
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <jas61292> Sure
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Flarephoenix> Snow Warning/Flash Fire/Ice Body?
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <jas61292> helps for heatran
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> nahh, no ice body, imo
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Flarephoenix> :(
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <paintseagull> ugghhh are you kidding the art will be a nightmare
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> I only want two competitively viable abilities
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> and ice body means
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Flarephoenix> Lol
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> it's gonna be bulky
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <jas61292> Snow Cloak :>
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> and we're building a not bulky mon
[11/22/12 | 16:14] * Birkal smack jas
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> ok what do we need
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> uhh
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> stats
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Flarephoenix> Wait
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <DHR> not bulky
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[11/22/12 | 16:14] <DHR> fuck bulky
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <DHR> no more bulky
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> ^
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Flarephoenix> If we give it DW Snow Cloak, any moves it comes with are banned, right?
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <DHR> yeah
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <paintseagull> no snow cloak/flash fire
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <DHR> Oh
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <DHR> No wait
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <paintseagull> that fucks flavour up
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <Flarephoenix> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <DHR> the new breed mechanics might change illegalities :|
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <Birkal> 80 HP / 135 Atk / 75 Def / 120 SpA / 70 SpD / 105 Spe
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <Birkal> yarr
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <Birkal> and no snow cloak
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <Birkal> it's just Flash Fire
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <paintseagull> cute charm
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <Birkal> ok change of plans
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <Birkal> Flare Fire / Cute Charm / Snow Warning (DW)
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <paintseagull> perfect
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <jas61292> I like it
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <Birkal> jas let's do stats
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <Birkal> what do you think of my above stats
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <Birkal> and DHR too
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <Birkal> and others
[11/22/12 | 16:17] <Flarephoenix> Hmm
[11/22/12 | 16:17] <Flarephoenix> I want it to out speed Terrakion.
[11/22/12 | 16:17] <Flarephoenix> Because.
[11/22/12 | 16:17] <Birkal> dang with those stats
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[11/22/12 | 16:17] <jas61292> I like the offenses, thouhg I feel we can go frailer. No real need for any bulk, imo
[11/22/12 | 16:17] <Birkal> yeah I agree, terra is a pretty big thread
[11/22/12 | 16:17] <Birkal> yeah, let's go frailer
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <Flarephoenix> Hmm
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <Birkal> 70 HP / 135 Atk / 70 Def / 120 SpA / 75 SpD / 115 Spe
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <Birkal> meh, more frail
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <Birkal> 70 HP / 135 Atk / 55 Def / 120 SpA / 75 SpD / 115 Spe
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <Flarephoenix> What's the min to survive a neutral CB Scizor BP?
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <jas61292> ^
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <Birkal> I dunno
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <jas61292> That is what I was thinking
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[11/22/12 | 16:18] <Birkal> that's what we gotta hit though
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Flarephoenix> Man, that thing would crumble.
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Flarephoenix> Particularly with that x4 SR weakness.
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Birkal> it's meant to switch in and just wreck
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Flarephoenix> Okay :D
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Birkal> but yeah
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Birkal> I think if we ever did hailmon for real
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Birkal> we should go really bulky
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Birkal> but like, not really offensive
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Flarephoenix> Dusk had this idea for Ice/Steel
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <jas61292> 70/63 is never OHKOd by bullet punch
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Birkal> just more of a mon that can take hits
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Flarephoenix> with monster defenses.
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Birkal> ok let's do that jas
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Birkal> 70 HP / 135 Atk / 63 Def / 120 SpA / 75 SpD / 115 Spe
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Birkal> is that speed good?
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <DHR> Birkal wants to remake Syclant with different typing :|
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Flarephoenix> OH
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Flarephoenix> OH
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Flarephoenix> Give it a Fire-type Ice Shard
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Flarephoenix> with Ice Shard
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Flarephoenix> :3
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Birkal> no DHR
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Birkal> it's SR weak
[11/22/12 | 16:21] <Birkal> and no TG
[11/22/12 | 16:21] <jas61292> I'd put the speed at 112. I like my round BSTs
[11/22/12 | 16:21] <Flarephoenix> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:21] <Birkal> ok
[11/22/12 | 16:21] <Birkal> 70 HP / 135 Atk / 63 Def / 120 SpA / 75 SpD / 112 Spe
[11/22/12 | 16:21] <Birkal> psg you working on art?
[11/22/12 | 16:21] <Birkal> anyways we need a movepool now
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <paintseagull> I'm imagining an adorable arctic animal that is threatened by climate change
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <Flarephoenix> d'awwww
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <Birkal> just do like
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <Birkal> a 2 minute sketch
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <paintseagull> haha I have a presentation tomorrow otherwise I would
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <Flarephoenix> We're going to present this to the rest of the forum as a pre-production effort for CAP 5.
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <Birkal> CBmeadow
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <paintseagull> Birkal you do it!!
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <Birkal> n
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> I am
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> making a pkmn
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> >:|
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> ok so moves
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <paintseagull> o
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> what moves we wnanan give it
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> blizzard
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> fire blast
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[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> and then what about hydro pump
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[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> I like hydro on it
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <jas61292> Sure
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <paintseagull> penguin pokemon?
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> ok physically it gets ice shard
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <DHR> .... no
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> YES
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> flare blitz
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <DHR> You cant have Blizzard and fire blast
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> icicle crash
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Flarephoenix> Omg
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> why not DHR :<
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <paintseagull> hm there are already a bunch of penguins
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <paintseagull> well there's one
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Flarephoenix> But..
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <DHR> Are we Ice/Fire?
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Pwnemon> HEY BIRKAL WHAT IS POKESCHOOL
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Pwnemon> HA I REMEMBERED
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <jas61292> yes
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Flarephoenix> And Empoleon has the best name.
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Birkal> yes DHR
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Birkal> we're Ice/Fire
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Flarephoenix> Flare Blitz, Ice Shard, Fire-type Prio move
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Flarephoenix> Blizzard, Ice Beam, Flamethrower, Fire Blast
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Pwnemon> BIRKAL YOU SAID NOBODY WOULD REMEMBER POKESCHOOL
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Birkal> fire-type prio
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Birkal> that's nuts
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Pwnemon> I DID :D
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Birkal> is it special
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> or physical
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Flarephoenix> It would be amazing.
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <jas61292> I want a special one, but either works
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> yeah I agree
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> let's do special
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[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> we need moar special priority
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Flarephoenix> <.<
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> what's the BP on it
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> should be pretty weak
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> how about 150
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[11/22/12 | 16:25] <jas61292> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Flarephoenix> Let's "fix" Charizard with this Fire-type special prio.
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> for real, what aboust 60
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <Flarephoenix> Isn't Prio automatically 40?
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <jas61292> Well, not all.
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <jas61292> 40 for most
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <Birkal> ok let's do 40 then
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <jas61292> 80 for ESpeed and Sucker Punch
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <Birkal> that's cool
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <Birkal> what's it called
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <jas61292> (and 30 for Feint)
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <Birkal> let's call it BURNING DESIRE
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <paintseagull> lame
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <Birkal> or or Torquin' Toesies
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <DHR> Nooo
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <DHR> should be like
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <Birkal> it could be something lame
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <Birkal> like "Fire Rush"
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <DHR> Yeah
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <DHR> All the "cool" fire names have been done
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <Birkal> "Rocket"
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <CBMeadow> "ice/fire" "adorable arctic animal" http://i.imgur.com/NwGWB.png ?
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <paintseagull> A+ CBMeadow
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <Birkal> yes perfect
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <DHR> omg
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> good work
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <DHR> why is he so sad
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> adorable
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Kadew> what the is going on in here
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <DHR> SO SAD D:
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> he's sad because he's about to kill
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <CBMeadow> because the sun is shining
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> all of his friends
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> with his super cool moves
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <jas61292> I like it
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <paintseagull> DHR: his habitat has been destroyed by climate change
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> can we call it
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> "Fire Pounce"
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <jas61292> That sounds too physical
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> oh yeah
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <Birkal> ok we'll just do Fire Rush
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <Birkal> unless someone has a stroke of genius
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <Birkal> what is itsname
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <Kadew> flash fire would be nice if it weren't already an ability
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <paintseagull> SubwayJ's not here :\
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <Birkal> Snopurr
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <Birkal> purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <CBMeadow> heat burst spitfire flame rush
[11/22/12 | 16:30] <paintseagull> it's a FOX
[11/22/12 | 16:30] <Kadew> call it firefox
[11/22/12 | 16:30] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:30] <paintseagull> fice
[11/22/12 | 16:30] <Kadew> hailfire
[11/22/12 | 16:30] <Birkal> Fuzzburn
[11/22/12 | 16:30] <Birkal> fox cat
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Birkal> yo CB, Spitfire is a good name for fire priority move
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Birkal> let's do that
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Birkal> still needs a name though
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Kadew> foxtbite
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Birkal> haha
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Kadew> like frostbite
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Kadew> but fox
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Birkal> I like that
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Birkal> Foxtbite
[11/22/12 | 16:32] <paintseagull> Froxbite
[11/22/12 | 16:32] <paintseagull> lol no
[11/22/12 | 16:32] <Kadew> and spitfire is good for the priority fire
[11/22/12 | 16:32] <paintseagull> foxtbite is good
[11/22/12 | 16:32] <Kadew> I shall sketch foxtbite right away
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[11/22/12 | 16:33] <Birkal> ok Foxtbite
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[11/22/12 | 16:33] <Birkal> does it have any non-attacking moves
[11/22/12 | 16:33] <jas61292> Not many
[11/22/12 | 16:33] <Birkal> how about encore
[11/22/12 | 16:33] <Birkal> and taunt
[11/22/12 | 16:33] <Birkal> but that's good for me
[11/22/12 | 16:33] <jas61292> Sure
[11/22/12 | 16:33] <paintseagull> it needs Revenge
[11/22/12 | 16:33] <Birkal> than generic stuff, like toxic
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Kadew> hail, of course
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Birkal> yo can we give it
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Birkal> baton pass?
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Kadew> sunnny day too?
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Birkal> like, not really any set up moves
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Birkal> but just give it baton pass?
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Birkal> yeah sunny day
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <paintseagull> wait
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Kadew> custom sunny day move called global warming
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Kadew> no different except the name
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <paintseagull> will people use this on sun teams :\
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[11/22/12 | 16:35] <Birkal> maybe with flash fire
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <Birkal> I dunno
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <Birkal> probably not, imo
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <Birkal> it's such a weak mon
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <CBMeadow> I think Fawksbite might look less weird?
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <jas61292> SolarBeam y/n?
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <Birkal> yeah Fawksbite is better, imo
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <paintseagull> yeah
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <Birkal> and I don't think solar beam
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <Kadew> fawk makes me think of hawk
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <Kadew> RAWK HAWK
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <Birkal> what is your reasoning, jas
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <jas61292> No idea. I'm just looking through TM moves
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <Birkal> ahh
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <Birkal> imo
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <Birkal> it should pretty much have all fire/ice moves
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <Birkal> and hydro pump
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <Birkal> and then taunt, encore, and bpass
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Kadew> flare blitz, or too small and cute for that, like flareon?
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Birkal> no hazards, no rapid spin, not really any status outside of toxic
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Birkal> yah flare blitz
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Kadew> no will-o-wisp?
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Birkal> oh yeah wow is fine
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Birkal> it probably won't use it much, tbh
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Birkal> jas what do you think of
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Birkal> fighting physical coversage
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Kadew> give it rock smash!
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <jas61292> Hmm... maybe some, but not Close Combate
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Kadew> only fighting move you need
[11/22/12 | 16:38] <Kadew> rawk smash
[11/22/12 | 16:38] <Birkal> I'm fine with no fighting coverage
[11/22/12 | 16:38] <Birkal> ok let's do that
[11/22/12 | 16:38] <Birkal> uhh is there anything else we need
[11/22/12 | 16:38] <Birkal> a sprite I guess, but meh no need
[11/22/12 | 16:38] <Kadew> pokedex entries!
[11/22/12 | 16:38] <DHR> height weight
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> pokedex entries @:P
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> height: 10' 6"
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> 10 foot?
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Kadew> ten foot fox what
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> the fuck
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> no
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> weight: 130lb
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Kadew> haha
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> yar
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> 3 feet tops
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> no I dunno
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> No
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> yeah 3 feet is cool
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> 10 feet is stupid
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> Thats like
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> haha I was kidding
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> WAY taller than DRAGONITE
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> 3' 6"
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> good
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> weight at like 80lb
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> ?
[11/22/12 | 16:40] <DHR> half my weight sounds about right yeah
[11/22/12 | 16:40] <jas61292> How does this look for a movepool: http://pastebin.com/AuJRzZpj
[11/22/12 | 16:40] <DHR> doesnt load
[11/22/12 | 16:40] <DHR> oh NOW it does -_-
[11/22/12 | 16:40] <Kadew> needs more egg moves
[11/22/12 | 16:40] <DHR> How shit is that level up movepool D: I feel sorry for it
[11/22/12 | 16:40] <Birkal> yeah jas put bp in there
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <jas61292> Well, anyways, Thanksgiving Dinner time. be back later
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Kadew> what about pursuit?
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <DHR> Strongest move is flame wheel until level 63?!
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Kadew> ouch, that is crap movepool
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <jas61292> I was doing this fast
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Kadew> mid to low tier for ingame for sure
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Birkal> kadew are you doing art
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <DHR> :P
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <DHR> We know Jas
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Kadew> working on it
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Birkal> or are we keepin' cb's
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Birkal> ok
[11/22/12 | 16:41] * You are now known as jas|Food
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Birkal> DHR, go to work on it
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Birkal> I think it's a good skelly
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Birkal> but wanna spruce it up a bit?
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Birkal> also needs baton pass
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Kadew> how do I make it ice type besides just being white?
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <DHR> blue
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <DHR> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Kadew> and furry
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Kadew> haha, blue
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Kadew> that's it!
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Kadew> haha
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <CBMeadow> Mine was terrible but I just got SAI so let's have a CONTEST
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Birkal> also Fire Rush = Spitfire
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <DHR> Spitfire is nice
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <DHR> Digimon move :|
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Birkal> oh is it?
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <DHR> And epic WW2 plane ;)
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Birkal> then just do Fire Rush
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <uwnim> Plenty of things share move names.
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <DHR> Well, Spit Fire is the default fire attack in Digimon World on the PS
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Birkal> what is the type, psg?
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Birkal> "The Climate Pokemon"
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Birkal> ?
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Kadew> The fur coat pokemon
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <DHR> rofl
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Kadew> makes the most luxurious linings
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <DHR> a bit morbid
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <paintseagull> The Eco-Terrorist pokemon
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Birkal> hahahahaha
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Kadew> preys on delibird
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <paintseagull> or climate haha
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Birkal> perfect
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <Birkal> climate is probably
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <Birkal> more appropriate
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <Birkal> let's have eco-terrorism in the dex entries
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <paintseagull> yes :)
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <paintseagull> okay :D
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <Kadew> should i give it a global warming protest sign?
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <paintseagull> no :p
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <Birkal> n
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <Birkal> ok we need dex entries
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <Birkal> first three written go in
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <paintseagull> Kadew did you not see CB's art?
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[11/22/12 | 16:45] <Kadew> yesh
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <Kadew> that's what I'm working off of
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <paintseagull> ok
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <Kadew> the "actic fox"
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <CBMeadow> "art"
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <Kadew> or "artic fox"
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <CBMeadow> it's not very good and I officially claim a CONTEST
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <Kadew> whichever spelling is the correct incorrect one
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[11/22/12 | 16:46] <paintseagull> Its genetic makeup changed when its habitat was destroyed by human activity. It now lives only for revenge.
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <paintseagull> (Dex entry)
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Birkal> Fawksbite: It's known to change the weather on a whim. People avoid it because of its unstable nature.
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <DHR> We having any stat up moves?
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Birkal> no DHR
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Birkal> unless you think we should?
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Kadew> It's fur coat is much desired around the world for the ability to be both warm in the winter and cool in the summer
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Birkal> yo any sprites around?
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Birkal> wyverii?
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Kadew> as a result few exist in the wild
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Wyverii> Wutwut?
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Birkal> wyverii can you make a sprite
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Birkal> in five minutes
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Wyverii> Yes
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> it's called
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> speed spriting
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> it is all the rage
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> http://i.imgur.com/NwGWB.png
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> we are almost done making this pokemon
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <CBMeadow> I'm doing BETTER ART
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> halp
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <CBMeadow> 3:<
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> oh cb is doing better
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> apparently
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Wyverii> BW size?
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Kadew> I do not know how to draw fox
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> 3'6"
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Kadew> so I draw cat
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> weight is 80lb
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <DHR> fox is a dog
[11/22/12 | 16:49] <DHR> not a cat
[11/22/12 | 16:49] <Birkal> DHR do you think
[11/22/12 | 16:49] <Birkal> we should have stat up moves?
[11/22/12 | 16:49] <Birkal> how about swords dance
[11/22/12 | 16:49] <Birkal> that should be all, imo
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <DHR> http://pastebin.com/FAf6yW7Z
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <DHR> sowrds dance doesnt make sense
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <DHR> Howl would work
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <Birkal> oh yeah do howl
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <DHR> Maybe Work Up cause they seem to have forgotten all abotu howl :|
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <Birkal> I guess
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <Birkal> or work up
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <Birkal> but dude stuff like
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> weavile and landorous-t get Swords dance
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> and lucario
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <DHR> they arent a dog :|
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <DHR> Well lucario is dubious
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <paintseagull> Vulpix you idiots
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <paintseagull> is the precedent
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <DHR> ????
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> yarr
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <DHR> But Vulpix is shit
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> no
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> give it
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> swords dance
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> it makes sense competitivel
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> >:|
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <DHR> our stats were mixed though?
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> yah
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <DHR> Work Up + Sowrds Dance
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> but it should have some sort of move
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> yeah that's fine
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <DHR> And howl in early level up over Growl or something
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> mhmm
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <paintseagull> Nasty Plot makes sense flavour wise
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> do that
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> NP makes me nervous
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <paintseagull> can you give it Defog
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> because of Fire Rush
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <DHR> NP doesnt really
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> and yeah defog for sure
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <DHR> Togekiss gets Nasty Plot remember
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <DHR> and its like the happiness and peace pokemon
[11/22/12 | 16:53] <paintseagull> haha
[11/22/12 | 16:53] <Birkal> yeah I think no NP
[11/22/12 | 16:53] <paintseagull> probably a weird translation
[11/22/12 | 16:53] <Birkal> ok DHR you make the updates?
[11/22/12 | 16:55] <Kadew> what about haze?
[11/22/12 | 16:55] <Kadew> or mist or whatever the counterpart is
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <DHR> Defog
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <DHR> why Defog
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <Flarephoenix> Defog should be mandatory on all competitve pokemon.
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <Birkal> dhr, because it changes climates
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <DHR> everything that can use it has wings
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <Birkal> it has wings of justice
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <Birkal> also it shoudl have
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <Birkal> every weather move
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <Kadew> jiiiiiuuusstiiiiice
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Birkal> sandstorm / hail / sunny day / rain dance
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Flarephoenix> Wait
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Birkal> yarr
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Flarephoenix> is this still Hailmon? I checked out.
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Kadew> sandstorm makes negative sense
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Birkal> lol it's a weather mon
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Birkal> :<
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <DHR> No an all weather mon should be normal like Castform
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Birkal> ok
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Flarephoenix> Oh.
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Flarephoenix> Sandstorm makes total sense.
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Birkal> so just hail / sunny day / rain dance
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Birkal> imo
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Flarephoenix> A warming planet can create deserts.
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Flarephoenix> And stronger winds. :I
[11/22/12 | 16:58] <paintseagull> and fucked up precipitation patterns
[11/22/12 | 16:58] <Birkal> nahh I'm fine without it
[11/22/12 | 16:58] <Birkal> it can do enough weather damage
[11/22/12 | 16:58] <paintseagull> i think it's overkill
[11/22/12 | 16:58] <Birkal> with those three
[11/22/12 | 16:58] <paintseagull> I think no rain dance though
[11/22/12 | 16:58] <Birkal> oh really
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Birkal> ok sure, no rain dance
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Birkal> fine by me
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Birkal> DHR are you getting this
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Birkal> or should I be recording it
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Kadew> okay, i've got this
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Kadew> http://i.imgur.com/K5oOv.png
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Birkal> GWHAGHAGH
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <CBMeadow> baww :3
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Kadew> that was a fun speed drawing :)
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> needs more prominent eyebrows
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <paintseagull> yay!
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> but adorable; I love it
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Kadew> eyebrows?
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> CB, are you working on one?
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <CBMeadow> I am
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> lol kadew, I am just obsessed with eyebrows
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Kadew> Meadow you already made one
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> and ok cb we will do a vote
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> if you want
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <CBMeadow> It looks quite different, and skirting the line of Pokemon like
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Kadew> no takebacks
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <CBMeadow> YEAH BUT MINE WAS PAINT
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> shush suhsh
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> my artists
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> we will vote
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <DHR> so it already had sunny day and hail in the moveset lol
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <Birkal> yeah that's fine
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <Birkal> swords dance
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <DHR> just not via Lv Up
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <Birkal> though >:|
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <DHR> Cause now it has like a million level ups lol
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <Birkal> yeah that's fine in just TM
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <Birkal> what are its egg groups
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Birkal> Field?
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Kadew> birkal
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Kadew> I eyebrowed it
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Kadew> and hahahahaha
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Kadew> http://i.imgur.com/TDXKE.png
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Birkal> haha lemme see
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <paintseagull> lol
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Birkal> YES
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Birkal> HAHAHAH
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Birkal> the other one is better
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Birkal> but the eyebrows are gahgeuz
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Kadew> the best part is that
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Kadew> with those eyebrows
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Kadew> make it look just like one of my friends
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 17:03] <Flarephoenix> THAT'S ADORABLE
[11/22/12 | 17:03] <Birkal> and let's just do Field egg group
[11/22/12 | 17:03] <Birkal> ok DHR :>
[11/22/12 | 17:03] <DHR> lol field ok
[11/22/12 | 17:03] <DHR> So it breeds with Wailord for Hydro Pump
[11/22/12 | 17:03] <DHR> Oh joy
[11/22/12 | 17:03] <Kadew> perfect
[11/22/12 | 17:04] <Kadew> (i'm not drawing that)
[11/22/12 | 17:04] <Birkal> hahaha
[11/22/12 | 17:04] <Birkal> excellent
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <DHR> well actually
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <Birkal> DHR are you doing a pastebin movepool
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <DHR> field causes more issues
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <Birkal> or should I be keeping track of it
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <DHR> cause like Smeargle is a dick
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <Birkal> oh really
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <DHR> http://pastebin.com/UTsPCBg1
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <Birkal> let's do Fairy then
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <Birkal> it looks pretty whimsical
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <Birkal> I am using that pastebin
[11/22/12 | 17:06] <paintseagull> ahhh this has been an awesome stress relief guys. gotta go though <3 (will be back online but not paying attention)
[11/22/12 | 17:06] <Birkal> anyways I gotta go for turkey day
[11/22/12 | 17:06] <Birkal> bye psg <3
[11/22/12 | 17:06] <paintseagull> ohhh happy turkey day
[11/22/12 | 17:06] <DHR> Well, I dunno, smeargle means its easy ot breed any of the field egg moves...it basically allows you to breed *anything* you want in terms of creating a movepool
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Birkal> but cb we can vote when I get back
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Birkal> DHR, you finish up movepool
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Birkal> wyverii sprite
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Birkal> boom we're done
[11/22/12 | 17:07] * Birkal is now known as Brbkal
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Kadew> I like this sort of speed-CAP thing, is very fun :)
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <DHR> Do you want anything super random lol
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Brbkal> hmm?
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[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Brbkal> idc, just don't give it anything else competitively
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Kadew> explosion
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Brbkal> YES
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Brbkal> ok gotta go bye~
[11/22/12 | 17:08] <Kadew> how big is a gen 5 sprite? I want to try butchering one
[11/22/12 | 17:09] <uwnim> 96x96
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[11/22/12 | 17:13] <Kadew> Gosh I have not worked with sprites for, like, five years
[11/22/12 | 17:14] <Kadew> this is so bad
[11/22/12 | 17:14] <CBMeadow> My 'entry' is worse >:L
[11/22/12 | 17:14] <Kadew> Mine is not recognizeable as anything
[11/22/12 | 17:15] <CBMeadow> Eh
[11/22/12 | 17:15] <DHR> http://new.weavesilk.com/?flub
[11/22/12 | 17:16] <Kadew> Also, unrelated to the foxbite, I worked on embirch's leg does this look better http://i.imgur.com/XDf44.png
[11/22/12 | 17:16] <Kadew> before was http://i.imgur.com/PJBK8.png
[11/22/12 | 17:17] <CBMeadow> I think so!
[11/22/12 | 17:18] <Kadew> Are there any glaring flaws left?
[11/22/12 | 17:18] <Kadew> aside from the lack of hula skirt, of course
[11/22/12 | 17:18] <CBMeadow> You might take the knee-to-heel bit visible and make it a bit thicker <-> way, since our-right leg seems thicker than the left right now
[11/22/12 | 17:18] <CBMeadow> not by a lot though
[11/22/12 | 17:18] <DHR> Just giving you guya head up Ill be posting the Dex/Sprites threads tomorrow, so take that as like a 72~96 hour warning or something
[11/22/12 | 17:19] <Kadew> eep
[11/22/12 | 17:19] <Kadew> and i
[11/22/12 | 17:19] <Kadew> ve got to draw flarelm too
[11/22/12 | 17:19] <Kadew> D:
[11/22/12 | 17:20] <DHR> Yup:P
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[11/22/12 | 17:25] <CBMeadow> I officially vote that Kadew wins http://i.imgur.com/woEtw.png
[11/22/12 | 17:25] <Kadew> spriting be hard http://i.imgur.com/zSkTW.png
[11/22/12 | 17:25] <DHR> http://pastebin.com/index/UTsPCBg1 HERE MOVES << list for myself if I try to find this later
[11/22/12 | 17:25] <Kadew> yours scares me ;-;
[11/22/12 | 17:25] <Kadew> those eyes
[11/22/12 | 17:25] <CBMeadow> he's apparently RESENTFUL
[11/22/12 | 17:25] <CBMeadow> so
[11/22/12 | 17:26] <Wyverii> Nearly done with a speed sprite. Had to do a massive 180 when kadew posted art
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[11/22/12 | 17:27] <DHR> lol
[11/22/12 | 17:27] <Kadew> CBMeadow, is that made with your new tablet? :O
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <CBMeadow> Yeh
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <Kadew> how are you liking it so far?
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <Kadew> what kind did you get?
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <CBMeadow> Quite a bit
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <CBMeadow> Bamboo Create
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <CBMeadow> It was really frustrating before I got hooked up with SAI
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <CBMeadow> GIMP is infuriating
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <Kadew> get some photoshop, girl
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <CBMeadow> :<
[11/22/12 | 17:29] <Kadew> blar you got the create curse you
[11/22/12 | 17:29] <CBMeadow> The outside the lines was because I was rushing
[11/22/12 | 17:29] <Kadew> mine is the bamboo capture which is like half the size of the create
[11/22/12 | 17:29] <CBMeadow> D:
[11/22/12 | 17:29] <CBMeadow> Does it work well at least?
[11/22/12 | 17:29] <Kadew> it works infinitely better than a mouse
[11/22/12 | 17:30] <Kadew> it's just that the larger canvas is nice
[11/22/12 | 17:30] <CBMeadow> Yeah
[11/22/12 | 17:30] <Kadew> one day I shall be rich and get an intuos
[11/22/12 | 17:30] <CBMeadow> those ears are ginormous and I hate them :
[11/22/12 | 17:30] <Kadew> and there will be rejoiceing throughout the land
[11/22/12 | 17:30] <CBMeadow> Intuos?
[11/22/12 | 17:30] <CBMeadow> Are those like wizard magic?
[11/22/12 | 17:31] <Kadew> the higher-end wacom and they are lovely
[11/22/12 | 17:31] <Kadew> wizard magic, not quite
[11/22/12 | 17:31] <Kadew> that would be the cintique
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[11/22/12 | 17:31] <Kadew> cintiq are soooooo expensive
[11/22/12 | 17:31] <Kadew> but they're a computer screen at teh same time as a tablet
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[11/22/12 | 17:31] <Kadew> and they make me cry beautiful tears
[11/22/12 | 17:31] <CBMeadow> Is the actual tablet bit incredibly good?
[11/22/12 | 17:32] <Kadew> it's what the professionals use
[11/22/12 | 17:32] <Kadew> working on, like, i dunno pixar and stuff
[11/22/12 | 17:32] <Kadew> probably
[11/22/12 | 17:32] <Kadew> there's a 24 inch hd cintiq
[11/22/12 | 17:32] <Kadew> it's like a tv
[11/22/12 | 17:33] <Kadew> but a tablet computer moniter
[11/22/12 | 17:33] <CBMeadow> God. : P
[11/22/12 | 17:33] <Kadew> for like 3 or 4 thousand dollars
[11/22/12 | 17:33] <DHR> O_O
[11/22/12 | 17:33] <Kadew> professional means expensive
[11/22/12 | 17:33] <Kadew> but, man, can you imagine working with one @_@
[11/22/12 | 17:34] <CBMeadow> I would borrow one if I could just to see
[11/22/12 | 17:34] <Wyverii> http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u65/wyverii/asdhdwshfsj.png
[11/22/12 | 17:34] <CBMeadow> baww. :3
[11/22/12 | 17:34] <jas61292> Awww
[11/22/12 | 17:35] <Kadew> d'awww
[11/22/12 | 17:35] <jas61292> you guys are awesome. That art and that sprite
[11/22/12 | 17:35] <CBMeadow> Kadew still wins. :>
[11/22/12 | 17:35] <Kadew> My sprite certainly did not win
[11/22/12 | 17:36] <CBMeadow> but your art should
[11/22/12 | 17:36] <CBMeadow> s'what I meant : P
[11/22/12 | 17:36] <DHR> haha that is awesome wyv
[11/22/12 | 17:36] <Kadew> Fine, fine, i'll accept the win. I'd like to thank the academy for blah blar
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <CBMeadow> If I sprot mine I'd do a pose like this http://i.imgur.com/j36DM.png
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <Kadew> Wyverii you are a beautiful person for spriting so well
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <CBMeadow> Yes she(?) is
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <Wyverii> I do not even know why I did it
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <jas61292> Because you are an awesome person
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <Kadew> You did it because your talent demanded it of you
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <Wyverii> Also Kadew's art wins
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <Kadew> talent like that is meant to be shared in all avenues
[11/22/12 | 17:38] <CBMeadow> Birkal still needs to vote
[11/22/12 | 17:38] <Flarephoenix> :3
[11/22/12 | 17:38] <Flarephoenix> Hailmon for CAP 5.
[11/22/12 | 17:38] <Kadew> Didn't he leave to go turkey some dinner or something?
[11/22/12 | 17:39] <Kadew> for the name, did we decide on foxtbite, fawksbite, or foxbite?
[11/22/12 | 17:39] <CBMeadow> Birkal but cb we can vote when I get back
[11/22/12 | 17:39] <CBMeadow> I don't like foxtbite just because it looks weird
[11/22/12 | 17:40] <Kadew> yeah, too many consonants all mashed together in the middle
[11/22/12 | 17:40] <DHR> :(
[11/22/12 | 17:40] <DHR> i have to waitanother month for my turkey dinner
[11/22/12 | 17:40] <Kadew> call it freezerburn
[11/22/12 | 17:40] <Kadew> fox that climbs in the fridge and ruins your foodstuffs
[11/22/12 | 17:40] <CBMeadow> That might be a move
[11/22/12 | 17:41] <CBMeadow> A mini Ice Burn that has a chance to burn but no charge turn
[11/22/12 | 17:41] <DHR> Froxbite
[11/22/12 | 17:41] <Kadew> ^that's good
[11/22/12 | 17:41] <CBMeadow> Agreed
[11/22/12 | 17:41] <jas61292> Ice type Scald :>
[11/22/12 | 17:41] <CBMeadow> That's what I was looking for jas : P
[11/22/12 | 17:41] <jas61292> That would actually completely change the entire competitive game if it had any distribution
[11/22/12 | 17:42] <Kadew> dragons would go extinct
[11/22/12 | 17:42] <Kadew> forever
[11/22/12 | 17:42] <DHR> Hydreigon wouldnt care
[11/22/12 | 17:42] <Kadew> eh, special, true
[11/22/12 | 17:42] <jas61292> Well... it would care cause it is an 80 BP ice move
[11/22/12 | 17:42] <Kadew> but the physical dragons would throw a hissy fit
[11/22/12 | 17:42] <CBMeadow> It's not broken because it's not priority!1
[11/22/12 | 17:43] <Kadew> in hail, it gets priority too
[11/22/12 | 17:43] <Kadew> bam
[11/22/12 | 17:44] <CBMeadow> If froxbite got that move and nothing else did it would automatically fulfill making hail awesome
[11/22/12 | 17:44] <CBMeadow> Also
[11/22/12 | 17:44] <CBMeadow> It has snow warning
[11/22/12 | 17:45] <Kadew> did we just fulfill the dragonslayer concept too? it's very presence with a priority stab ice scald would destroy them
[11/22/12 | 17:45] <CBMeadow> Yep
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[11/22/12 | 17:46] <Flarephoenix> You people are insane.
[11/22/12 | 17:46] <jas61292> "priority stab ice scald" God, just hearing that makes me laugh.
[11/22/12 | 17:46] <Kadew> Of course we're insane
[11/22/12 | 17:46] <Kadew> we're artists ;)
[11/22/12 | 17:46] <Wyverii> Here's a more balanced sprite http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u65/wyverii/artfox.png
[11/22/12 | 17:47] <Kadew> Ah, you pulled the head back
[11/22/12 | 17:47] <CBMeadow> I think the eyes might be a little too far apart
[11/22/12 | 17:47] <Kadew> I like it better that way
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[11/22/12 | 17:47] <CBMeadow> Maybe not though
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[11/22/12 | 17:47] <CBMeadow> but yeah this version's better in my opinion : P
[11/22/12 | 17:47] <Wyverii> Right, see you suckers
[11/22/12 | 17:47] <DHR> Night Wyverii
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[11/22/12 | 17:48] <Kadew> see you and thanks for the spriting you wizard
[11/22/12 | 17:48] <Kadew> haha
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[11/22/12 | 17:49] <DHR> someone needs to collect all we just did and send it to birkal
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Kadew> It's a shame we can't turn this into a thread in the forum to show off our work
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Brbkal> I'm here
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Brbkal> gotta go in a minute
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Brbkal> I'll add the sprite
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Kadew> since the whole "don't make CAPs on your own" thing
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Brbkal> kadew did you do a final piece of art?
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Brbkal> and I think I'll post it in the kitchen
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Brbkal> if that's cool with everyone
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Kadew> http://i.imgur.com/K5oOv.png is as final as it is
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Kadew> that's cool
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Brbkal> of course
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Brbkal> it's hot :D
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <DHR> haha really going to post it xD
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Brbkal> why not
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Kadew> cool like ice
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Brbkal> it was fun
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Kadew> hot like fire
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Brbkal> ok gotta run again
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Brbkal> will brb
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <SgtWoodsy> oh did we just make a cap
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <Kadew> Basically
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <DHR> p much
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <SgtWoodsy> k00l
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <DHR> in the sapce of about 40 minutes or something
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <CBMeadow> we should ALL GET BADGES
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <Kadew> you didn't contribute any art
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <Kadew> jk you can get a badge too ;)
[11/22/12 | 17:53] <Kadew> for the idea of the pic
[11/22/12 | 17:53] <Kadew> so, a pre-contributer or something?
[11/22/12 | 17:53] <Kadew> haha i don't even know how badges work
[11/22/12 | 17:54] <DHR> You have to do a fair amount for them
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[11/22/12 | 17:55] <CBMeadow> Kadew
[11/22/12 | 17:55] <CBMeadow> I finally understand what you mean about sketch vs lineart
[11/22/12 | 17:55] <CBMeadow> :C
[11/22/12 | 17:56] <Kadew> Lineart is sad days
[11/22/12 | 17:56] <Kadew> but then you get finished and can color a bunch of crap everywhere and it is joyful
[11/22/12 | 17:56] <Kadew> particularly since on the computer, color is eraseable
[11/22/12 | 17:56] <paintseagull> we got a sprite??
[11/22/12 | 17:56] <CBMeadow> http://i.imgur.com/LcfWh.png vs http://i.imgur.com/Ha89r.png
[11/22/12 | 17:57] <CBMeadow> Yep
[11/22/12 | 17:57] <Kadew> ah I shouldn't laugh but ahaha
[11/22/12 | 17:57] <Kadew> I'm sorry
[11/22/12 | 17:57] <CBMeadow> Nah it's fine
[11/22/12 | 17:57] <Kadew> yeah, lineart is rough
[11/22/12 | 17:58] <Kadew> Meadow, is this sorta what you meant with fattening the leg http://i.imgur.com/HquVD.png
[11/22/12 | 17:58] <CBMeadow> Believe so
[11/22/12 | 17:58] <Kadew> compared with http://i.imgur.com/XDf44.png
[11/22/12 | 17:59] <CBMeadow> Yep
[11/22/12 | 17:59] <Kadew> I see what you meant about the leg being skinny, but I'm not sure I like it peeking on the side like that
[11/22/12 | 17:59] <Kadew> also disregard that color
[11/22/12 | 17:59] <Kadew> I got bored and splashed poop brown all over that image
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[11/22/12 | 18:00] <CBMeadow> I think I prefer the peeking
[11/22/12 | 18:00] <CBMeadow> but I'm not positive
[11/22/12 | 18:00] <Kadew> I know I like it fatter
[11/22/12 | 18:00] <Kadew> maybe I could slide the foot over to hide the peeking, but keep the fatter leg...
[11/22/12 | 18:00] <CBMeadow> Try it, can't hurt
[11/22/12 | 18:01] <DHR> Night guys
[11/22/12 | 18:02] <DHR> Have fun making pretty pictures :D
[11/22/12 | 18:02] <CBMeadow> 'Night
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[11/22/12 | 18:09] <Kadew> nooooooo
[11/22/12 | 18:09] <Kadew> moving and rotating the foot went and got anti-aliasing all over it
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[11/22/12 | 18:10] <CBMeadow> D:
[11/22/12 | 18:10] <Mos_Quitoxe> D:?
[11/22/12 | 18:10] <Flarephoenix> o_o
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[11/22/12 | 18:10] <CBMeadow> Kadew nooooooo 18:09 Kadew moving and rotating the foot went and got anti-aliasing all over it
[11/22/12 | 18:10] <CBMeadow> drawing
[11/22/12 | 18:10] <Kadew> I try to keep the lineart in just pure black/pure white so that the paintbucket fills them properly
[11/22/12 | 18:10] <CBMeadow> yay!
[11/22/12 | 18:11] <Kadew> but now the foot is all blurred edges and the paintbukkit will leave little white spots when I flat it
[11/22/12 | 18:11] <Mos_Quitoxe> well that's what happens when you draw at too low resolution
[11/22/12 | 18:11] <Kadew> Also hi thar Mos_Quitoxe
[11/22/12 | 18:11] <Mos_Quitoxe> or are you trying a hard-pixel outline style?
[11/22/12 | 18:11] <CBMeadow> Flat it on a different layer
[11/22/12 | 18:11] <CBMeadow> below the lineart one
[11/22/12 | 18:11] <Mos_Quitoxe> like what nastyjungle does
[11/22/12 | 18:12] <Kadew> hard-pixel outline at high resolution, then shrink it so then the lines look smooth
[11/22/12 | 18:12] <Kadew> currently working at like 4x as big as what final will be
[11/22/12 | 18:12] <Mos_Quitoxe> do you not have the option for smooth lines to start with, or is this simply a design choice?
[11/22/12 | 18:13] <Kadew> design choice
[11/22/12 | 18:13] <Mos_Quitoxe> fair enough
[11/22/12 | 18:13] <Mos_Quitoxe> also did you ever get your tablet fixed?
[11/22/12 | 18:13] <Kadew> bought a new one
[11/22/12 | 18:13] <Mos_Quitoxe> ok
[11/22/12 | 18:13] <Mos_Quitoxe> :)
[11/22/12 | 18:13] <Kadew> also, what I"m workign on is this http://i.imgur.com/HquVD.png
[11/22/12 | 18:14] <CBMeadow> I have a tablet now Mos :>
[11/22/12 | 18:14] <Mos_Quitoxe> if you added it to the end of that sentence then it didn't show
[11/22/12 | 18:14] <Mos_Quitoxe> bloody mibbit
[11/22/12 | 18:14] <Kadew> http://i.imgur.com/HquVD .png
[11/22/12 | 18:14] <CBMeadow> http://i.imgur.com/HquVD. png
[11/22/12 | 18:14] <CBMeadow> aw
[11/22/12 | 18:14] <Mos_Quitoxe> and that's nice to hear, CB!
[11/22/12 | 18:15] <Mos_Quitoxe> aha
[11/22/12 | 18:16] <CBMeadow> I didn't say I was good at it
[11/22/12 | 18:16] <Kadew> hey, do you want to see my first ever tablet drawing? (hint: you don't)
[11/22/12 | 18:16] <CBMeadow> I DO
[11/22/12 | 18:17] <Kadew> it's five years old
[11/22/12 | 18:17] <Kadew> back when I was on deviantart and was retarded and awful at drawing
[11/22/12 | 18:17] <CBMeadow> SHOW ME
[11/22/12 | 18:17] <CBMeadow> I DEMAND THEE
[11/22/12 | 18:18] <Brbkal> yo I'm back
[11/22/12 | 18:18] <Kadew> oh goodness my eyes are bleeding just going through my ancient deviantart gallery
[11/22/12 | 18:18] <Kadew> ohhhh I feel like vomiting
[11/22/12 | 18:18] <CBMeadow> http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2..._the_throat_by_controlbrainmeadow-d3bvjla.png This is the oldest thing in mine
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <Kadew> http://tinyurl.com/awfulgarbage
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <Mos_Quitoxe> that's pretty good for emulating vasquez
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <Kadew> I was really really bad five years ago ;-;
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <jas61292> haha
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <CBMeadow> that's pretty hilarious : P
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <Mos_Quitoxe> kadew that is endearing
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <Mos_Quitoxe> not bad
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <CBMeadow> (not compared to my later imitations)
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <Mos_Quitoxe> it's sincere ' v'
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[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Mos_Quitoxe> unortunately I canno join in
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Kadew> not all my junk from back then was bad
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Kadew> http://tinyurl.com/lessgarbage is one of the best ones
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Mos_Quitoxe> all my early stuf I deleted like a sensible person
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <jas61292> aww
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Mos_Quitoxe> happyarados ' v '
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <bugmaniacbob> what are we discussing
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Brbkal> guys
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Brbkal> final product on fawksbite:
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <bugmaniacbob> and why is that so cute
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Brbkal> http://pastebin.com/7VdnyHUN
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <jas61292> We made a Pokemon bmb
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Brbkal> anything else
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Brbkal> need to be addressed
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Kadew> froxbite was decided to be a better name than fawkbite
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Brbkal> oh ok
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <bugmaniacbob> also Birkal
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Brbkal> yeah I like that too
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <CBMeadow> Correct the Black entry to Its fur coat
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <bugmaniacbob> if you saw
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <CBMeadow> not it's
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Kadew> and I think ice/fire would be better than fire/ice
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <bugmaniacbob> I just spent quite a few hours updating Necturna
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Kadew> looks more icy than firey
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Kadew> if we're being dumb here
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <bugmaniacbob> if you could have a look at it in a bit
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <bugmaniacbob> that would be nice
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <bugmaniacbob> all sets are now ~1200 words
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Brbkal> yeah for sure
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Brbkal> =)
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <bugmaniacbob> if that helps
[11/22/12 | 18:23] <Brbkal> sure Ice/Fire
[11/22/12 | 18:23] <jas61292> Yeah, that's a good point Kadew
[11/22/12 | 18:23] <bugmaniacbob> aww that fox thing is cute
[11/22/12 | 18:23] <bugmaniacbob> is this 12-hour CAP or whatever it was
[11/22/12 | 18:23] <Kadew> More like 1 hour cap
[11/22/12 | 18:23] <bugmaniacbob> or were you just celebrating my absence
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <bugmaniacbob> 70 HP / 135 Atk / 63 Def / 120 SpA / 75 SpD / 112 Spe
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <jas61292> Its been around 2 hours
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <bugmaniacbob> qu'est-ce que
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <bugmaniacbob> what
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <bugmaniacbob> what kind of
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <bugmaniacbob> what
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <Brbkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <jas61292> lol
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <Kadew> hahaha
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <CBMeadow> He's hiding machine guns in his fur
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <jas61292> The BST is a bit high...
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <jas61292> :p
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Kadew> maybe we should make it only physical, or only special
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Kadew> that would reduce the bst a lot
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <bugmaniacbob> you guys sort of lost semblance of reality after a bit, I can tell
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <jas61292> You know what it needs? Less SpD.
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Brbkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Brbkal> less spd
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Brbkal> ok
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <paintseagull> not exactly, we kind of started that way
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Kadew> haha
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Brbkal> how much less
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <bugmaniacbob> it totally needs Quiver Dance
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <bugmaniacbob> also
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Brbkal> n
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Brbkal> no set up moves
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Brbkal> besides swords dance
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> and howl
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <bugmaniacbob> this needs to go on-site somewhere
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> aroooooooo
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> it is going in
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> the kitchen
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> as soon as we are done :>
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <bugmaniacbob> SEE BIRKAL
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> jas, what should SpD be
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <paintseagull> you know what would be amazing
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <jas61292> Hmm... 55 SpD would put the BST at a nice 555
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> YES
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> done
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <bugmaniacbob> THAT THREAD DOES HAVE A PURPOSE DOESN'T IT
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <bugmaniacbob> sorry
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <bugmaniacbob> I'm sad I missed that now
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <paintseagull> if we did 50 or so 1-hour CAPS and put them in a simulator
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> we will do another one
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> some day
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <Brbkal> psg o-_o
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <jas61292> I'd play that
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <bugmaniacbob> but I had to get Necturna done and... I'm sure that my presence would have hurt proceedings in some fashion
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <jas61292> I'd play that so much
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <bugmaniacbob> also this should go on the simulator
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <bugmaniacbob> as an easter egg
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <bugmaniacbob> put it on the simulator during easter
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <bugmaniacbob> in randbats
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <Brbkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <Kadew> hahaha
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <Brbkal> ok I am gonna post
 
Im new to CAP and I cant offer art or tech stuff but I have ideas. Lots of them. And I can come up with new ones really easily so if anybody has something I can work with, I'll hear you out
 

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Im new to CAP and I cant offer art or tech stuff but I have ideas. Lots of them. And I can come up with new ones really easily so if anybody has something I can work with, I'll hear you out
Hiya! You'll have to keep on the look out for official project threads; we'll be starting on some pre-evolutions for Aurumoth shortly. Until then, you can always share your stuff in this thread. Welcome to Smogon =)

EDIT: Also did a few minor updates. Wyverii refused to settle on the sprite she made, and we decided in #cap to change it to Flare Rush because it's a lot cooler. Sorry SgtWoodsy; Heatseeker was my second choice.
 
Heatseeker is clearly reserved for a potential Fire type Pursuit! :naughty:

Flare Dash is a good name - Flare Rush sounds like Dragon Rush which doesn't have priority. Just sayin.

Froxbite is great - I am impressed! Speed-CAPing should definitely become a thing. Particularly for rainy sunday afternoons.

Question - does an unboosted Flare Dash always OHKO Scizor outside of rain?
 

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Question - does an unboosted Flare Dash always OHKO Scizor outside of rain?
Surprisingly, no. However, it depends on the set, and in most practical situations, it is probably taking Scizor out. If we assume 252/0 Scizor, then unboosted 0 SpA Flare Dash does 69.76 - 83.72%. Even with 252 SpA and Modest it does 95.34 - 112.79%, meaning Scizor has a chance to survive. However, as you would expect, items can really help out. With a Life Orb, you only need 100 EVs and a neutral nature to get the OHKO guaranteed.

Though one thing I was noticing after having made this move is that despite how awesome it seems, I don't think it would really get too much use. Beating a Scizor Bullet Punch is the only key thing it does, and while it is frail, one of the few competitive things I did calc while making it was that with 70/63 defenses, CB Scizor cannot KO from full health with Bullet Punch. Now of course, not taking 99% damage is preferable, but in general Froxbite is fast enough that priority might be wasted on it. Who knows though?

So can we discuss Aurumoth's prevolutions on this forum?
While a mod may feel free to correct me if this is wrong, I think that is just the kind of thing this thread is for, so go right ahead. Hopefully I will be getting the prevos started before too long, but, especially until then, there is no better place to talk about them than here.
 

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Though one thing I was noticing after having made this move is that despite how awesome it seems, I don't think it would really get too much use. Beating a Scizor Bullet Punch is the only key thing it does, and while it is frail, one of the few competitive things I did calc while making it was that with 70/63 defenses, CB Scizor cannot KO from full health with Bullet Punch. Now of course, not taking 99% damage is preferable, but in general Froxbite is fast enough that priority might be wasted on it. Who knows though?
Note that also beats Breloom's Mach Punch, which is just as if not more important, as well as making sure that Choice Scarf Genesect couldn't revenge kill even if it wanted to - and being a cleaner that isn't cracked by these three threats is huge. Not to mention revenge killing utility. That's more than enough to merit priority, really, especially of a kind that doesn't exist anywhere else.

On-topic, though: Froxfire is great and I do very much hope I'm around for the next time you decide to do something like that.

EDIT:
How about the concept behind it, though? Hail has practically no abusers in OU other than Kyurem and only a mediocre pokemon as weather summoner, so I wouldn't mind a true good hailmon for the next CAP project.
Well, naturally the concept can be submitted. He's saying that the custom Pokemon "Froxfire" is not an official CAP Pokemon - if properly justified, the fact that the concept can be submitted goes without saying. In fact it's been submitted numerous times in the past.
 

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How about the concept behind it, though? Hail has practically no abusers in OU other than Kyurem and only a mediocre pokemon as weather summoner, so I wouldn't mind a true good hailmon for the next CAP project.
Actually, it's cool that you brought up this point. "Hailmon" has been featured in a plethora of previous CAP Concept Submission threads. In fact, it did very well kind of recently in the CAP2 Concept Polls (submitted by Flarephoenix). It's sort of become the "perpetual loser ability" and "the ability we will do when we run out of other ideas." That's why when Flarephoenix yelled "HAILMON" in #cap, we all understood immediately what he meant. It's a ideas that is definitely not unique to concept polls, but it is certainly allowed.

Birk-a-dit: Ninja'd by bmb :<
 
I love Froxbite already.

If only the regular CAP process could move with speed and efficiency that such a chat discussion does. But the size of the community necessitates sticking to the process... oh well, at least with this, we don't forget that making Pokemon is, at the core, fun, even if we achieve competitive goals in the meantime.

Froxbite itself aside FLARE DASH is an awesome move and absolutely needs to exist sooner or later. Keep it ready for when we eventually decide the days of Scizor and Genesect have come to an end.
 

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So, Zebraiken has basically been absent from the Neverused community for eons. To remedy this, I hijacked #neverused tonight and self-imposed myself as the new NU leader. With my newfound powers, I banned Snow Warning (thanks to MMF) and Zangoose (thanks to Molk). They said the metagame was perfect at that point, but I was not convinced. NU needed something more. So, in traditional Birkal fashion, we made a fakemon :>

The process started with me asking what the NU players wanted. They said something bulky that played a more defensive role in NU, but had some power to go offensive if needed. At that point, we pretty much started throwing out suggestions and ran with whatever was most popular. We wanted a spinner and a hazards setter, primarily, but also some bulk. We also liked the idea of making a Pokemon that could paralyze Golurk, so that's where the new move comes in. Flavor wise, we talked about doing a salamander, but that got shot down because of Toxicroak. Someone said box jellyfish at some point, which turned into boxer jellyfish, and we all had a good laugh. We decided to run with that theme throughout all the flavor, from the custom move to the Pokedex entries.

We spent about an hour and a half on this, so I feel that we made pretty good time. Key contributors include Molk, MMF, EBeast, Fusxfaranto, DTC, wiitle. Special shout out goes to ium for doing the art for this on an incredibly short notice. Big ups to Molk too for sorting out the general learnset once we had picked the moves. This, like Froxbite, won't be added on the simulator, but I know that the NU chaps want to take Cnidali into their forum for a bit of theorymon. Enjoy!


Cnidali - The Boxer Fish Pokemon
Pronunciation: Nigh - dah - lee

Typing:
Poison / Fighting

Abilities:
Regenerator / Stench / Poison Heal (DW)

Stats:
109 HP / 100 Atk / 85 Def / 40 SpA / 90 SpD / 66 Spe
BST Total: 490

Art:


New Move:
Sting Jab
Category: Physical | Type: Poison | BP: 85 | Acc: 100% | PP: 15 (24)
30% chance to paralyze the target.

Movepool:
Level Up:

00: Reflect Type
00: Toxic Spikes
00: Ember
00: Bubble
00: Poison Sting
04: Arm Thrust
08: Thunder Wave
12: Acid
16: Wrap
20: Mach Punch
24: Low Kick
28: Dizzy Punch
32: Sting Jab
36: Circle Throw
40: Drain Punch
44: Sucker Punch
48: Poison Jab
52: Dynamicpunch
56: Gunk Shot
60: Close Combat
64: Focus Punch

TM/HM:

Toxic
Bulk Up
Venoshock
Hidden Power
Taunt
Hyper Beam
Protect
Rain Dance
Safeguard
Frustration
Thunderbolt
Return
Brick Break
Double Team
Sludge Wave
Sludge Bomb
Torment
Facade
Flame Charge
Rest
Attract
Thief
Low Sweep
Round
Echoed Voice
Focus Blast
False Swipe
Scald
Fling
Quash
Explosion
Payback
Retaliate
Giga Impact
Flash
Stone Edge
Thunder Wave
Psych Up
Rock Slide
Work Up
Poison Jab
Swagger
Substitute
Wild Charge
Rock Smash
Waterfall
Strength
Dive

Egg:

Haze (From Blastoise)
Aqua Jet (From Lots)
Rapid Spin (From Blastoise)
Hypnosis (From Poliwag family)
Circle Throw (From Poliwrath)
Pain Split (From Stunfisk)
Water Spout (From Octillery and Wailord)
Octozooka (From Octillery)
Toxic Spikes (From Qwilfish)
Crunch (From Crawdaunt)

Tutor:

Drain Punch
Fire Punch
Ice Punch
Thunderpunch
Stealth Rock
Pain Split
Bounce
Uproar
Dual Chop
Low Kick
Gunk Shot
Magic Coat
Block
Electroweb
Foul Play
Superpower
Dark Pulse
Bind
Snore
Knock Off
Gastro Acid
Spite
Sleep Talk
Endeavor
Snatch

Pokedex Entries:
Black: It has evolved over millions of years to be able to live outside of water. Its fists are laced with toxins and are used to fight off predators.

White: Notorious for setting up underground boxing matches against other Cnidali, many Pokemon come to their arenas to cast bets.

B2W2: It has been known to suck the fluids out of sea cucumbers for a quick and tasty treat.


Memorable Quotes:

<+ium> jellicent meet your cousin
<~Jellicent> oh, eww
<~Jellicent> i'm not gonna incest with it, if that's what you were trying to do

01:19 Wyverii If CaP's a professional laboratory then Birkal's the shady dude with a homemade lab around the back of an alley.

Zebraiken: i have been absent for less than 24 hours >:(
 

Molk

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So this was pretty fun ^.^. I have to contribute to these kinds of things more often!


Anyways, i have one sole concern about Cnidali, and thats what tier it would end up in realistically, we were initially going to try and make it a good NU Pokemon, but we got a little bit crazy with the movepool and gave it a few moves that might end up with it moving up a tier or two (rapid spin for example), we also started off with a very good typing, which further hurts its chances of staying NU imo.

So my question is: Do you guys think that Cnidali staying NU for more than 3 months would be realistic? If not, where to do you think the Boxing Jellyfish would end up? If so, how do you think Cnidali would affect the metagame? Do you think it would drastically affect the usage of any important pokemon?

Also, what sets do you think Cnidali would be able to effectively run? Its pretty bulky and has access to Bulk Up+Drain Punch, so i think its most popular set would be Bulk Up, Followed by a support set with some combination of Drain Punch, Haze, Circle Throw, Rapid Spin, Thunder Wave, Sting Jab, Toxic Spikes, Stealth Rock (who the hell added that? .-.) and Knock Off. What do you think?
 
wait did we seriously give poison heal to a pokemon that can't even be poisoned

lmao


anyway, this was created with an NU perspective which had a few things in mind:
we wanted something cool that could check sawk and wasn't hampered by knock off (which flcl brought up on irc earlier today) or affected by the current hail metagame. sawk's three would-be hard counters: musharna, misdreavus, and duosion are screwed due to one of these reasons.
that is where the bulky poison-type idea came in. although it may be caught by sawk's earthquake, which does not make it a counter, it has something else over other checks: regenerator. cnidali having regenerator means it isn't worn down as easily over the course of the match in comparison to garbodor.

i really don't know where the support stuff came from, but apparently someone said a rapid spin user not weak to stealth rock and not sub-par like wartortle would be cool so i guess that's where it was thrown in. we did exclude spikes from its moveset, but being able to reliably set up hazards due to regenerator is something that would be appreciated in higher tiers. i don't think that something like this could stay in NU for a long time.
 
I think you guys did quite a good job with this fakemon flavor wise (Regenerator, etc), but don't think there is any way this thing would end up sticking around in NU. Great bulk + Regenerator, solid Attack, and a good typing and movepool just make this thing too good. If this were real, it would just replace Gurdurr, already a great NU mon, as gaining a Ground weakness seems a small price to pay for more resists and Regenerator. It can even run the exact same set Gurdurr does because it has access to Mach Punch. I think this would be a great RU pokemon because it struggles against a lot of the powerhouses in that tier (Nidoqueen, Cress, Moltres), but also has the tools to combat some other other threats (Grass types).

In terms of sets I think the standard would be Substitute / Bulk Up / (Circle Throw or Drain Punch) / (Crunch or Sting Jab), with Regenerator as the ability and a bias towards Special Defense. The way this set would really shine is if you had either hazards up or a Pursuiter (luckily Skuntank synergizes well). You can sub up for "free" because you have Regenerator and just phaze around and stack hazard damage on the opposing team. When a counter comes in, like Musharna or Ghosts, you can either Crunch to weaken them if you have it, go to your Pursuiter, or if behind a sub just phaze to weaken everything further. As a bonus, this set thrashes standard Regenerator cores.
 

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Yeah, this is not NU. nuff said.

How many things have this much mixed bulk in NU? Maybe 10. How many of those also have an attacking stat 100 or higher? Just Throh and Musharna.

It's basically got slightly better bulk than Amoonguss, the only really fair comparison given Regnerator and mixed bulk. True, it lacks Spore, but it can actually do stuff offensively.

I see a max spdef Bulk Up, Drain Punch, Waterfall (Ice Punch?), Sucker Punch set doing WERKKKKK on NU.
 
I really wish we didn't give it so much bulk. We had a fine spread when it was 110 / 100 / 75 / 40 / 75 / 66, but of course we HAD to give it even more bulk...

Anyways, it was a fun Pokemon to create! Props to anyone who saw the hidden message in one of the pokedex entries. ;)
 
Rule n° 1: Do not talk about Cnidalis.
Rule n° 2: Do NOT talk about Cnidalis.
Excuse me while I flagrantly flout these rules.

Did you guys ever come up with a height/weight for Cnidali? Not that either is especially important, but I'm just a curious guy.
 
There's been a white elephant in CAP for years. Two, in fact. So, we made a thing. Sorry Yilx.

Inspired by http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4422561&postcount=302, we present:

CHAMEREON
The Chameleon Pokémon




Concept:
A chameleon with Multitype (OU Arceus)

Typing:
Normal

Ability:
Multitype
Color Change (DW)

Stats:
119/71/111/69/109/51

Egg Groups:
Field / Dragon

Height: 2'2"
Weight: 22.5lb.

Movepool:
Level-up Moves:
1. Lick
1. Tail Whip
5. Quick Attack
9. Foresight
13. Copycat
17. Glare
21. Secret Power
25. Camouflage
29. Mean Look
33. Body Slam
37. Slack Off
41. Stockpile/Swallow/Spit Up
45. Crunch
49. Double-Edge
53. Coil
57. Power Whip
61. Hyper Beam

TM Moves:
TM1. Hone Claws
TM4. Calm Mind
TM5. Roar
TM6. Toxic
TM10. Hidden Power
TM11. Sunny Day
TM13. Ice Beam
TM15. Hyper Beam
TM16. Light Screen
TM17. Protect
TM18. Rain Dance
TM20. Safeguard
TM21. Frustration
TM24. Thunderbolt
TM27. Return
TM30. Shadow Ball
TM31. Brick Break
TM32. Double Team
TM33. Reflect
TM35. Flamethrower
TM39. Rock Tomb
TM40. Aerial Ace
TM42. Facade
TM44. Rest
TM45. Attract
TM48. Round
TM49. Echoed Voice
TM52. Focus Blast
TM54. False Swipe
TM56. Fling
TM59. Incinerate
TM65. Shadow Claw
TM66. Payback
TM68. Giga Impact
TM70. Flash
TM74. Gyro Ball
TM77. Psych Up
TM78. Bulldoze
TM80. Rock Slide
TM82. Dragon Tail
TM83. Work Up
TM84. Poison Jab
TM87. Swagger
TM90. Substitute
TM94. Rock Smash
HM1. Cut
HM4. Strength

Tutor Moves:
Covet
Bounce
Signal Beam
Gunk Shot
Last Resort
Iron Tail
Aqua Tail
Zen Headbutt
Foul Play
Superpower
Bind
Snore
Heal Bell
Knock Off
Helping Hand
After You
Wonder Room
Sleep Talk
Snatch

Egg Moves:
Dragon Rush
Reflect Type
Cross Chop
Wring Out
Hex
Captivate
Defense Curl
Amnesia
Weather Ball

Pokédex
Black: Chamereon learned how to camouflage itself by watching Cloyster do it in the ocean.
White: Chamereon entertain themselves by swinging from branch to branch with their ropy tongues.
B2/W2: Chamereon can blend into any surrounding, but its misshapen legs and awkward gait give it away to predators.
X/Y: It's illusory demeanor has no guard against the fact that this is, in fact, a weakly armored insect Pokemon.

Supporting Art
http://puu.sh/1dwez
http://puu.sh/1f9I7
http://puu.sh/1reJP
 
The ENTIRE log, for anybody who's actually interested.

February 3, 2013

23:08 Quanyails: o3o
23:09 Quanyails: Neat program!
23:09 Kadew: 3
23:09 Kadew: I like this program
23:09 Quanyails: I am almost done spriting the lineart.
23:09 Quanyails: I'm trying to keep much of the derp of it.
23:09 Kadew: I am almost done laughing so much I can't hold my pen trying to draw it
23:09 Deck Knight: Ah.
23:13 Quanyails: I'll be curious as to how dissimilar the sprite and drawing are. :P
23:13 Kadew: super dissimilar
23:13 Kadew: I'm trying to stylize it a touch
23:13 Kadew: rather than keep it carbon-copy
23:13 Kadew: I'm keeping the wonky proportions, though
23:14 SgtWoodsy: good
23:14 SgtWoodsy: thank you
23:17 Eagle4: Aa i can't work with pirate pad
23:17 Quanyails: So, uh, wait, what are its stats?
23:17 SgtWoodsy: defensive
23:17 SgtWoodsy: reasonably defensive
23:18 SgtWoodsy: according to jas
23:18 jas61292: I like Korski's alteration of 119/71/111/69/109/51
23:18 Timeblaze: That looks nice.
23:18 Eagle4: Good stats :)
23:20 jas61292: So... we just need movepool
23:20 Eagle4: and pokedex submissions :P
23:20 Eagle4: although that's flavour
23:21 jas61292: Well, what say you all on recovery?
23:21 Timeblaze: This seems really similar to Kecleon.
23:21 Eagle4: yes, recovery
23:21 Timeblaze: Is it an evolution? Or no?
23:21 jas61292: I don't think so
23:22 Timeblaze: What sets the two apart? Aside from the obvious inclusion of Multitype.
23:22 Kadew: its an evolution in the way that alomomola was an evo of luvdisc
23:22 Kadew: in that it is the same base idea and very similar
23:22 Timeblaze: ...right.
23:22 Kadew: but not related evolutionarily
23:23 Deck Knight: It's the Plusle/Minun/Emolga/Pachirisu to our Pikachu
23:23 jas61292: So I say give it Slack Off for recovery
23:23 Korski: yes slack off
23:23 Kadew: should we get some movepool ideas for discussed/allowed/disallowed lists?
23:24 Eagle4: what do you guys say about defense curl?
23:24 Deck Knight: Roost would be cooler for Flying Chamereon
23:24 Kadew: roost is such bad flavor :P
23:24 Korski: give it calm mind and coil
23:24 Kadew: I like coil idea
23:24 Timeblaze: Is Chamereon going to actually be it's name?
23:25 Kadew: YES
23:25 jas61292: Coil seems cool
23:25 Kadew: should we be sure it gets a stab for every type?
23:25 jas61292: Nah
23:25 Korski: judgment yo
23:26 Eagle4: Leaf blade?
23:26 Timeblaze: Wait, can we base it off of Jackson's Chameleon?
23:26 Kadew: I want to see if we can do without judgment
23:26 Timeblaze: Kecleon is based off of the Veiled Chameleon.
23:26 Korski: 69 SpA...
23:26 jas61292: Power Whip seems cool for grass coverage
23:26 jas61292: And makes sense
23:27 jas61292: Seeing as Lickilicky gest it
23:27 Kadew: if it has power whip it doesn't need leaf blade
23:27 Eagle4: yeah, power whip definitely
23:27 jas61292: yeah
23:27 Eagle4: no leaf blade
23:27 SgtWoodsy: well since this thing has multitype
23:27 SgtWoodsy: shouldn't it have a giant movepool
23:27 Korski: it should have some standard support options
23:28 jas61292: Yeah. It should have plenty of options. But not everything
23:28 Kadew: being normal type, it should get the elemental beams
23:28 Kadew: and random surf capability
23:28 Eagle4: Extreme Speed?
23:28 jas61292: makes sense to me
23:28 jas61292: not e-speed
23:28 Timeblaze: If it's based off of Jackson's Chameleon, it could learn Megahorn.
23:28 jas61292: the beams
23:28 Eagle4: Baton Pass?
23:28 Korski: spikes
23:29 jas61292: I have no problem with any of the beam like things
23:29 Kadew: I don't think chamereon is horny enough to use megahorn
23:29 jas61292: Its SpA isn't that great anyways
23:29 Timeblaze: >_>
23:29 Kadew: any disagreement with the elemental beams?
23:29 Timeblaze: Nope.
23:29 Eagle4: ope
23:29 Eagle4: nope*
23:30 Eagle4: What about elemental fangs?
23:30 Kadew: fangs are weak and lame
23:30 Kadew: horn attack is mroe of a flavor move
23:30 Timeblaze: I don't think chameleons have very strong bites.
23:30 Kadew: since return beats it in every whay
23:30 Kadew: *way
23:30 jas61292: What about the stronger version of those moves: Fire Blast, Blizzard and Thunder?
23:31 jas61292: Also: Shadow Ball?
23:31 Kadew: not thunder, nothing that makes it another good rain mon
23:31 Korski: i say no to mighty beams
23:31 Eagle4: Iron tail?
23:31 Kadew: I'd be okay with blizzard, for hail maybe
23:31 Timeblaze: Surf?
23:31 jas61292: Iron Tail seems fine
23:32 Kadew: ahaha
23:32 Eagle4: oh haha
23:32 Timeblaze: Oh, now look what you've done.
23:32 Kadew: I see no reason for shadowball
23:32 Kadew: rather, no reason to not allow it
23:32 jas61292: What about....
23:32 jas61292: Gunk Shot?
23:33 Kadew: it's pretty standard for normal types to have, lets its ghot type have a move
23:33 Kadew: gunk shot okay, sort of makes me think of chameleon tongue
23:33 Timeblaze: ...Stealth Rock?
23:33 Timeblaze: Kecleon gets it.
23:33 Eagle4: Dragon Tail?
23:33 Kadew: everything and its mum got stealth rock 4th gen
23:34 Timeblaze: True.
23:34 Korski: let's stick to attacking moves for now
23:34 Timeblaze: Ooh, what about Dragon Claw and Dragon Rush?
23:34 Kadew: I agree
23:34 Korski: for organization's sake
23:34 Eagle4: Dragon Tail would fit in nicely with Iron Tal
23:34 jas61292: I support Dragon Rush and Dragon Tail for only Dragon coverage
23:34 Eagle4: yes
23:34 SgtWoodsy: yep
23:35 Eagle4: agreed
23:35 SgtWoodsy: ahaha
23:35 SgtWoodsy: the chamereon sprite
23:35 SgtWoodsy: awesome
23:35 Quanyails: :)
23:35 jas61292: Nice
23:35 Timeblaze: Not sure what to think about that sprite.
23:35 SgtWoodsy: wait
23:35 SgtWoodsy: where's yilx
23:35 Quanyails: I should make its back legs more sprawled.
23:35 SgtWoodsy: i feel kinda bad for making this without yilx
23:35 jas61292: Hmm... what about Psychic?
23:35 Kadew: zen headbutt
23:36 jas61292: Good idea
23:36 Eagle4: Pursuit/Knock Off?
23:36 Kadew: those are more support moves than attacking
23:36 Kadew: well, pursuit yeah
23:36 jas61292: Crunch?
23:36 Kadew: what of crunch?
23:36 Timeblaze: Sucker Punch?
23:36 Korski: body slam and crunch
23:36 jas61292: Oh yeah, body slam
23:37 Eagle4: agreeing with sucker punch
23:37 jas61292: Sucker Punch I'd be cool with
23:37 jas61292: Now, what of fighting coverage?
23:37 Timeblaze: Brick Break, Superpower?
23:38 Korski: cross chop
23:38 Korski: for coil sets
23:38 jas61292: I'd say those and Focus Blast
23:38 Timeblaze: Which ones?
23:38 jas61292: All. Cross Chop is odd flavor, but it would be cool for coil
23:39 Eagle4: Low Sweep or Cross Chop
23:39 Kadew: neither, I think we have enough fighting with those
23:39 SgtWoodsy: yes
23:39 Eagle4: i'm happy with focus blast
23:39 SgtWoodsy: i think we're well covered for fighting moves
23:39 Timeblaze: Right.
23:40 Timeblaze: How about Normal moves?
23:40 Eagle4: on to flying ;)
23:40 Timeblaze: Or Flying.
23:40 jas61292: Acrobatics
23:40 jas61292: And Aerial Ace
23:40 Timeblaze: Yes, that definitely works.
23:40 Eagle4: Bounce
23:41 Eagle4: I'm not happy with superpower being on here
23:42 Timeblaze: So, what will this thing accomplish competitively, exactly?
23:42 jas61292: Anyone have problems with Bounce?
23:42 Korski: bounce is extranneous
23:42 Eagle4: i don't ;)
23:43 Korski: unless you are toxic stalling or something?
23:43 SgtWoodsy: it's ou arceus
23:43 SgtWoodsy: apparently
23:43 SgtWoodsy: it looks reasonably defensive
23:43 jas61292: Well, its a flying STAB that works like Body Slam
23:43 Timeblaze: What about Acrobatics?
23:44 Eagle4: no not dragon pulse
23:44 Eagle4: dragon breath maybe
23:44 Mos-Quitoxe: right then
23:44 Kadew: dragon breath would be flavor if anything
23:44 Mos-Quitoxe: what's this crazy setup
23:44 Deck Knight: Dragonbreath wouldn't be on an allowed list since it isn't VGM
23:44 Kadew: the best kind of crazy
23:44 Eagle4: oh okay
23:44 Timeblaze: This party's getting crazy
23:44 Kadew: so many colors in the chat
23:45 Timeblaze: Hey hey hey
23:45 Mos-Quitoxe: I'd contribute, but my dirty dirty brown would literally soil your rainbow
23:45 jas61292: You could change your color...
23:45 Eagle4: no not blizzard or thunder
23:45 Mos-Quitoxe: I know
23:45 Mos-Quitoxe: *lame excuses*
23:45 Eagle4: it doesn't fit in at all
23:46 Timeblaze: Shadow Sneak?
23:46 Korski: weather ball preempts my hydro pump suggestion
23:46 Timeblaze: Hydro Pump is a bit much.
23:46 Fusxfaranto: weather ball is good
23:47 Timeblaze: Well, he can learn tail moves, so that'd work.
23:47 Eagle4: aa i was about to suggest aqua tail
23:47 Deck Knight: Chamereon is a tailed beast
23:47 jas61292: Oh, what about ground and rock moves?
23:47 Eagle4: ninja'd by deck knight
23:47 jas61292: EQ?
23:47 Deck Knight: I can Ninja even in Pirate Pad
23:48 Eagle4: rock slide?
23:48 Timeblaze: What about Dark Pulse?
23:48 Korski: rock slide and bulldoze
23:48 jas61292: Sounds good
23:48 Deck Knight: Indeed
23:48 Eagle4: agreeing with korski
23:48 Eagle4: Belly Drum? :D
23:49 Fusxfaranto: yes
23:49 Timeblaze: We're focusing on attacking moves at the moment.
23:49 Timeblaze: ...String Shot?
23:49 Fusxfaranto: string shot, definitely a cgm
23:49 Fusxfaranto: *vgm
23:49 jas61292: Explosion....?
23:49 Eagle4: no
23:49 Timeblaze: How on earth would it use Explosion?
23:49 Deck Knight: lol Exploding Chamereon
23:49 jas61292: Quick Attack?
23:49 Mos-Quitoxe: where the hell is lick?
23:50 Kadew: its trunk looks pretty swollen, id think it could explode
23:50 Mos-Quitoxe: it explodes from appendicitis
23:50 Eagle4: I still want leaf blade :(
23:50 Fusxfaranto: selfdestruct at least
23:50 Mos-Quitoxe: no-one ever said it had to be a fiery explosion
23:50 Kadew: if lickilicki can explode I think this could
23:50 Timeblaze: Selfdestruct would be fine.
23:51 Deck Knight: Lickilicki has Explosive Flatulence
23:51 Eagle4: please, no explosion or self-destruct
23:51 jas61292: Final Gambit :>
23:51 Eagle4: EVERYBODY suggests final gambit in movepools i've noticed
23:51 Kadew: chamereon isn't ninja enough for final gambit
23:52 jas61292: Seriously though, what about priority moves?
23:52 Mos-Quitoxe: it would imply that it could formulate non-final gambits
23:52 Eagle4: Pursuit?
23:52 Timeblaze: What about X-Scissor?
23:52 Mos-Quitoxe: and it certainly can't do that, not with those wall-eyes.
23:52 Fusxfaranto: give it bullet punch ;3
23:52 Timeblaze: Or maybe Signal Beam.
23:52 Korski: priority is going to be lackluster i bet
23:52 Kadew: can't punch with those skinny arms
23:52 Mos-Quitoxe: lick lick lick
23:52 Mos-Quitoxe: it's what chameleons DO
23:52 jas61292: I say give it Quick Attack.
23:52 Timeblaze: Aqua Jet!?
23:52 Kadew: custom move: quick lick
23:53 Deck Knight: Yeah,
23:53 Mos-Quitoxe: also good
23:53 Kadew: takes on the type it currently is
23:53 Deck Knight: NO CUSTOM ANYTHING ROAAAARRG
23:53 Mos-Quitoxe: that's better
23:53 SgtWoodsy: there
23:53 SgtWoodsy: lick
23:53 Korski: lick will be in the movepool
23:53 Mos-Quitoxe: thank ye
23:53 jas61292: Anything else anyone can think of for attacking moves?
23:53 SgtWoodsy: so uh
23:54 SgtWoodsy: custom judgement?
23:54 Eagle4: Knock off
23:54 Kadew: How does it punch with those skinny arms?
23:54 Kadew: or focus for that matter
23:54 Timeblaze: I dunno about this thing focusing
23:54 Korski: umm poison jab / gunk shot
23:54 Mos-Quitoxe: it punches with elastic tongue action of coruse
23:54 Timeblaze: That's stretching it.
23:54 Deck Knight: It turns its tongue into a fist and punches with that!
23:54 Kadew: gyro ball?
23:55 Mos-Quitoxe: it's not even round kadew
23:55 Kadew: yeah it is http://i.imgur.com/tzfED.jpg
23:55 Kadew: that's pretty round body to me
23:55 Kadew: it's ellipse tool for goodness sake
23:55 Eagle4: KNOCK OFF
23:55 Kadew: that's a non-attacking move
23:55 Mos-Quitoxe: too many appendages
23:55 Mos-Quitoxe: like heads and tails
23:55 Timeblaze: Hey, how about Hex?
23:55 Timeblaze: It's japanese name is Evil Eye.
23:56 Mos-Quitoxe: you can tell I resent bronzor and bronzong knowing the move
23:56 Fusxfaranto: hex is cool
23:56 Timeblaze: And those are some scary eyes.
23:56 Timeblaze: What about Normal attacks besides Return?
23:56 Eagle4: crush grip
23:57 Eagle4: okay, enough attacking moves...
23:57 Korski: it already has body slam
23:57 Fusxfaranto: wrap?
23:58 Timeblaze: Strength? Facade?
23:58 Timeblaze: Hyper Voice?
23:58 Eagle4: Ninja'd by kadew this time
23:58 Korski: i'm comfortable with this list of attacks
23:58 Eagle4: and no hyper voice lol
23:58 Kadew: Yeah I'd say this is big enough
23:58 Eagle4: agreed
23:58 Fusxfaranto: yeah this looks good
23:58 Timeblaze: It looks good as i-
23:58 Timeblaze: ...as is.
23:58 Kadew: HIDDEN POWER
23:59 Mos-Quitoxe: this is a fucken' bloated list
23:59 Eagle4: Yup
23:59 Timeblaze: Okay, that's good.
23:59 Kadew: wait till you see non-attacking moves
23:59 Timeblaze: Deck Knight, stop

February 4, 2013

0:00 Deck Knight: So, no Ancient Power then?
0:00 Fusxfaranto: lol
0:00 Mos-Quitoxe: can't be too similar to kecleon
0:00 paint: did you guys just remake Kecleon?
0:00 paint: ew bad colour
0:01 jas61292: Not at all
0:01 Kadew: We have rebuilt Keckleon
0:01 Timeblaze: It's to Kecleon what Alomomola is to Luvdisc.
0:01 Kadew: better than it was before
0:01 Fusxfaranto: it's a cross between kecleon and arceus
0:01 Deck Knight: We have the technology
0:01 Kadew: better, stronger, faster
0:01 Mos-Quitoxe: we ha-damn ninja knight
0:01 paint: haha
0:01 Kadew: Deck Kninja strikes again!
0:01 jas61292: Cosmic Power?
0:01 Korski: give it screens
0:02 Eagle4: anybody object to stockpile?
0:02 Kadew: no
0:02 Fusxfaranto: well now it needs swallow and spit up
0:02 jas61292: What are people's thoughts on T-Wave?
0:02 Kadew: it already has glare
0:02 Kadew: which + coil would be pretty okay
0:03 Kadew: hows about mean look?
0:03 Timeblaze: Stealth Rock?
0:03 Fusxfaranto: definitely mean look
0:03 Eagle4: it's too derpy to look mean
0:03 Kadew: what about lovely kiss~
0:03 Mos-Quitoxe: but it looks scary
0:03 jas61292: No sleep moves
0:03 jas61292: Wisp?
0:03 Timeblaze: Hone Claws!
0:04 Eagle4: Toxic Spikes?
0:04 Kadew: coil > hone claws
0:04 Kadew: not needed at all
0:04 jas61292: HC is fine since Coil outclasses
0:04 Kadew: then it would be a flavor move
0:04 Kadew: isn't this just for VGM?
0:04 Fusxfaranto: >tail whip
0:04 Eagle4: Toxic Spikes?
0:04 Fusxfaranto: nah
0:05 Kadew: this thing has way too many options to be thinking hazards too
0:05 jas61292: Roar?
0:05 Fusxfaranto: yes
0:05 Eagle4: yes
0:05 Korski: it should have spikes
0:05 Deck Knight: CAP Principle: Design by Committee sucks
0:05 Eagle4: no hyper beam
0:05 Eagle4: no giga impact
0:05 Deck Knight: Like Skarmory!
0:05 Timeblaze: What do you mean, no Hyper Beam/Giga Impact?
0:06 Timeblaze: Is this thing fully evolved?
0:06 Kadew: corollary: design by committe is what makes us matter
0:06 SgtWoodsy: yeah
0:06 Eagle4: Swagger?
0:06 Deck Knight: But our committee is not nearly fat enough
0:06 Kadew: chamereon has swag
0:06 Timeblaze: Then it gets Hyper Beam/Giga Impact.
0:06 Timeblaze: It's already on the attacking moves list.
0:06 Eagle4: Baton Pass?
0:07 Fusxfaranto: sure
0:07 jas61292: I'd say no to BP. it would pass Coils too easily
0:07 Eagle4: Man this movepool is massive
0:07 Kadew: Yeah no bp
0:07 Quanyails: Updated sprite.
0:07 Timeblaze: Calm Mind? Bulk Up?
0:07 Fusxfaranto: ooh we need to give it foul play
0:07 Kadew: I'm not sure on willowisp either
0:07 Quanyails: Still have to fix up tail.
0:08 jas61292: Looking good
0:08 Eagle4: Heal Bell?
0:08 Kadew: yes calm mind no bulk up
0:08 Kadew: give it a special option
0:08 jas61292: Wisp might be too good
0:08 Kadew: but it has coil
0:08 Eagle4: no wisp
0:08 Eagle4: I don't know if heal bell would be too much
0:08 Deck Knight: Spore...
0:08 jas61292: no
0:08 Eagle4: no not spore
0:09 jas61292: Heal Bell could be interesting
0:09 Kadew: sing!
0:09 Deck Knight: Grasswhistle
0:09 jas61292: Could make a nice cleric
0:09 paint: chameleons don't make noises
0:09 Eagle4: we've got yawn
0:09 Timeblaze: Rain Dance? Sunny Day? Hail? Sandstorm?
0:09 Fusxfaranto: nah no weather
0:09 Deck Knight: Every Normal mon has Sunny Day and Rain Dance.
0:09 jas61292: Yeah
0:10 Eagle4: I'd say grasswhistle should be used instead of yawn
0:10 Fusxfaranto: nevermind then
0:10 Timeblaze: What about Taunt?
0:10 Fusxfaranto: no taunt, no torment
0:10 Timeblaze: I'm currently going over the list of TMs to make a list.
0:10 Kadew: disable?
0:10 Deck Knight: Well, there goes me naming my Chamereon Obelisk
0:10 Fusxfaranto: nah
0:10 Eagle4: we're now just piling on any non-attacking move :(
0:10 Kadew: copy-cat
0:10 Kadew: makes sense for chameleon
0:11 Deck Knight: Me First
0:11 Deck Knight: (The move)
0:11 Eagle4: copy-cat
0:11 Deck Knight: MIRROR MOVE
0:11 Eagle4: agreed
0:11 Kadew: me first says deck kninja
0:11 Kadew: mirror move is for the birds
0:11 Deck Knight: Yeah, but I'm the reason Stun Spore is on Cyclohm, sooo....
0:11 jas61292: I think this looks good
0:12 Kadew: needs quiver dance
0:12 Eagle4: so no copycat?
0:12 jas61292: Who wants to organize it all into a movepool?
0:12 Eagle4: ah
0:12 Deck Knight: Shell Smash
0:12 Timeblaze: I'm currently doing TMs
0:13 Kadew: who went and made this the #yoloswag pokemon? >:|
0:13 jas61292: :\
0:13 Timeblaze: Dumb question, but should this thing get Attract?
0:13 Eagle4: NO
0:13 Fusxfaranto: yes
0:13 Kadew: its already on there
0:13 Timeblaze: Alright
0:13 Eagle4: I MEAN YES
0:13 Kadew: and every gendered poke has it
0:13 Kadew: plus poor cyrogonal
0:13 Timeblaze: Larvesta
0:13 Timeblaze: Ferroseed
0:14 jas61292: Almost every.
0:14 jas61292: Not Nincada, iirc
0:14 Timeblaze: False Swipe?
0:14 jas61292: sure
0:15 Timeblaze: Shadow Claw?
0:16 Quanyails: All righty, I hope I can focus here more now that the sprite is nearing a final draft.
0:16 Mos-Quitoxe: I bet that cryogonal was going to be gendered and they forgot to edit out attract
0:16 jas61292: I'm fine with Shadow Claw. Don't know about anyone else
0:16 Eagle4: looks great :)
0:16 Eagle4: agreeing with shadow claw
0:16 Quanyails: I'm okay with Shadow Claw. :P
0:16 Eagle4: DRAGON CLAW
0:17 Eagle4: jks
0:17 Timeblaze: Gyro Ball? Swords Dance?
0:17 jas61292: No SD
0:17 Eagle4: we've got gyro ball
0:17 Eagle4: no SD
0:17 Timeblaze: Okay
0:17 Deck Knight: Tail Glow
0:17 jas61292: ....
0:17 Eagle4: no
0:18 Timeblaze: Work Up? Dream Eater?
0:18 jas61292: Dream Eater!
0:18 Eagle4: no, we;ve got enough moves :/
0:18 Timeblaze: Hey, I'm just going over the TMs. >_>
0:18 Fusxfaranto: yes work up, no dream eater
0:19 Deck Knight: Heh, funny thought
0:19 jas61292: Someone should make a level up movepool
0:19 Timeblaze: I've got one yes for Work Up, and a yes and a no for Dream Eater.
0:19 paint: can't believe we're making Chamereon without Yilx :\
0:19 Timeblaze: What do the rest of you say?
0:19 Deck Knight: I just realized that, technically, all the mons with Secret Power had a Sleep Move to use with Dream Eater.
0:19 Kadew: yilx will be brokenhearted to hear of this
0:19 Eagle4: no dream eater
0:20 Timeblaze: Okay, no Dream Eater. Work Up?
0:20 Eagle4: fine
0:20 jas61292: We will dedicate this pokemon to yilx
0:20 Kadew: In Yilx's memory
0:21 Eagle4: Is anybody doing chamereon's level up movepool?
0:21 Eagle4: I'm bad with movepools :(
0:21 Kadew: it's level up movepool is lvl1 lick
0:21 Kadew: and then all the vgms that won't fit elsewhere
0:22 Quanyails: Base it off of Alomomola's increments?
0:22 jas61292: Nah, that is egg pool
0:22 Timeblaze: Okay, finalizing the TM list.
0:22 Eagle4: cool :)
0:23 Eagle4: also timeblaze, have you edited your dex submissions yet?
0:23 Timeblaze: I've made a new post.
0:23 Eagle4: ima go check
0:23 Timeblaze: Okay, it's ready.
0:23 Kadew: let's make some dex entries for this
0:23 Kadew: below moves
0:23 Timeblaze: We should start deleting all TM moves off of the list.
0:25 Eagle4: a what's a fly pokemon
0:25 Timeblaze: Here goes, be ready
0:26 Timeblaze: I'll work on Tutor moves now
0:26 Quanyails: Do you mind if I reword the entry at line 132? o3o
0:27 Kadew: go ahead
0:27 SgtWoodsy: we're gonna have to talk to yilx about this
0:27 SgtWoodsy: before submitting
0:27 jas61292: Why you all so mean to poor delibird?
0:27 SgtWoodsy: delibird's a piece of shit
0:27 Kadew: Because that is the way of CAP
0:27 jas61292: =(
0:28 paint: guys. all of these dex entries are awesome. use your powers for good for Cupra and Argalis
0:28 jas61292: Yeah, listen to paint!!
0:28 Eagle4: kadew, yours is too long
0:28 Quanyails: Updated the sprite with transparency, if anyone cares. :P
0:28 paint: the key is to not take them seriously
0:29 Birkal: lol
0:29 Birkal: hello team
0:29 Quanyails: BIRKAL. :D
0:29 Kadew: Birkal!
0:29 jas61292: Hello Birkal
0:29 Deck Knight: Birkal
0:29 unnamed: Birkal
0:29 Kadew: skip all the boring and head to the dex entries
0:29 Birkal: this mon is broken
0:29 Birkal: lol
0:29 Quanyails: What do you think so far?
0:29 Birkal: those defenses + slack off + multitype
0:29 Timeblaze: We're making Chamereon
0:29 Birkal: I am very proud
0:29 Kadew: let's reduce every stat by 30 base
0:29 Kadew: that shoudl do it
0:29 Birkal: nahh I am just interested in this mon
0:30 Birkal: it's gonna tank like crazy
0:30 Deck Knight: Birkal - become drunk with power. Make out fakemon GROW!
0:30 Birkal: good move not putting hazards on it though
0:30 Birkal: this could actually help stall a lot
0:30 Birkal: I don't think it has any superboffensive sets
0:30 Birkal: *superb offensive
0:30 SgtWoodsy: i have created something good
0:30 jas61292: Yeah. Not really that strong
0:30 SgtWoodsy: i am very proud of myself
0:30 Birkal: Sgt, this isn't yours
0:30 Birkal: it's not dragon/grass
0:30 SgtWoodsy: i got this thing started
0:30 SgtWoodsy: it's mine
0:31 Birkal: solid
0:31 Birkal: what is yilx up to; is here here?
0:31 SgtWoodsy: and i've done very little since since handegg's on
0:31 paint: Eagle4: "Charmereon often licks its own eyeballs" is perfect
0:31 SgtWoodsy: no
0:31 Birkal: lol he will be so proud
0:31 SgtWoodsy: i feel kinda guilty about it
0:31 Timeblaze: Okay, I've made a preemptive tutor list
0:31 Quanyails: Are we doing allcaps or not? o3o
0:31 Timeblaze: See if there's anything missing, or on that shouldn't be
0:31 SgtWoodsy: nah
0:31 SgtWoodsy: there's no more allcaps in pokemon
0:32 Quanyails: Then I shall make the entries lowercased.
0:32 Kadew: ALLCAPS
0:32 Kadew: the superior way of writing
0:32 Birkal: oh wow, this thing is slow
0:33 Birkal: jas are we using raw stats or dusk-esque ones
0:33 paint: I vote we stop doing dex entries now and pick from what we have
0:33 SgtWoodsy: take your pick
0:33 jas61292: raw. need that 51 Speed
0:33 Kadew: what are the level up move levels based on?
0:33 SgtWoodsy: alternative we can use a mixture
0:33 Quanyails: Alomomola.
0:33 SgtWoodsy: on
0:33 SgtWoodsy: ok*
0:33 SgtWoodsy: raw
0:34 jas61292: Need to outspeed Donphan
0:34 paint: GUYS THATS ENOUGH DEX
0:34 Birkal: need to outspeed donphan? why
0:34 Quanyails: Eh, Leer should be later. :P
0:34 jas61292: Because....
0:34 Quanyails: Or replaced.
0:34 Kadew: Never enough dex!
0:34 jas61292: It just does
0:34 Birkal: oh it gets power whip
0:34 Birkal: lol
0:35 SgtWoodsy: yeah
0:35 Birkal: I am trying to think of an offensive set I'd used
0:35 jas61292: And I vote for Birkal's dex entry
0:35 Birkal: ty jas
0:35 Deck Knight: Fist Plate Coil/Cross Chop/Slack Off/Shadow Claw
0:36 Birkal: jas, I'd rather go whatever Ghost Plate is on that set
0:36 SgtWoodsy: why does this thing have judgement quick attack
0:36 SgtWoodsy: again
0:36 Birkal: immunities and more power on shadow claw
0:36 Kadew: spooky plate
0:36 Birkal: yeah that
0:36 Birkal: this thing would wreck when paired with deo-d
0:36 Birkal: this might actually be OU
0:37 jas61292: Multitype is powerful, but I don't think any one set would be too ridiculous
0:37 Eagle4: yay kadew
0:38 Kadew: Green elitism goin gon in here
0:38 Eagle4: anyway, enough dex entries?
0:38 SgtWoodsy: yes
0:38 SgtWoodsy: more than enough
0:38 Eagle4: okay, let's vote
0:38 Eagle4: and stuff
0:38 Quanyails: Line 147.
0:38 SgtWoodsy: good lord
0:38 SgtWoodsy: we've been doing this for nearly 2 hours
0:38 Quanyails: Line 137.
0:38 Eagle4: Line 137
0:38 Birkal: lol
0:38 SgtWoodsy: 137
0:38 Birkal: I had a choir audition
0:38 Birkal: so I was productive :D
0:38 paint: agree 137
0:39 Timeblaze: How does that look for Egg Moves?
0:39 Quanyails: Darn it, they've been moved.
0:39 SgtWoodsy: 146*
0:39 Quanyails: Isn't Zen Headbutt a tutor move?
0:39 Eagle4: 146
0:39 paint: 3 7 12
0:40 Eagle4: 3 11 15
0:40 Quanyails: 3, 13, and, hmm...
0:40 Quanyails: 14.
0:40 Timeblaze: I don't think so.
0:40 Timeblaze: Let me check again.
0:40 SgtWoodsy: wait doesn't this thing need like
0:40 SgtWoodsy: four dex entries
0:40 Eagle4: actually, 3 8 14
0:40 Timeblaze: Oh, it is.
0:40 Kadew: 3
0:40 SgtWoodsy: b/w/b2/w2
0:41 Timeblaze: Should I add it?
0:41 jas61292: 3 8 13
0:41 SgtWoodsy: unless b2w2 have the same dex entry
0:41 Kadew: bw2 share entries
0:41 SgtWoodsy: oh ok
0:41 Fusxfaranto: 0 8 6 3
0:41 Eagle4: Let's delete the dex entries which stand no chance, to get a better idea
0:41 Kadew: we should tally the points by having a perosn put a ! in their color by each entry they vote for
0:41 Eagle4: good idea
0:41 Eagle4: 3 votes, right?
0:42 Kadew: multiple bold for now, id think
0:42 Kadew: then thin down the crap entries and see what we have
0:42 Kadew: everyone, cast a ! for each entry you like
0:44 Eagle4: done :)
0:44 Kadew: done.
0:44 Quanyails: 3, 6, 8, then?
0:44 Eagle4: okay
0:44 Birkal: 13!!!
0:44 Kadew: 6 and 13 are tied
0:44 Kadew: wait, someone deleted
0:44 Quanyails: Ah.
0:44 Kadew: so 3, 8, 13
0:44 Quanyails: Did I just see 6 go down a !?
0:44 Kadew: by the looks of it
0:44 Eagle4: okay
0:45 Quanyails: Righty, 3, 8, 13.
0:45 jas61292: Awesome
0:45 Quanyails: Woot!
0:46 Eagle4: delete all of the dex entries now
0:46 Timeblaze: Okay, let's delete the submissions to tidy it up.
0:46 Eagle4: except the ones which won
0:46 Timeblaze: Whoops
0:47 Eagle4: let's decide height and weight
0:47 Quanyails: :U
0:47 Kadew: Okay, I'm going to go clean up my official art
0:47 Eagle4: wooo
0:47 jas61292: 12'6''
0:47 Kadew: 6'11"
0:47 Quanyails: Well, with those dimensions, my sprite would look normal. :P
0:47 Timeblaze: 4'7"
0:48 Fusxfaranto: needs to be huuuuge
0:48 Eagle4: i have no idea how to work in feet and inches
0:48 Kadew: 2 foot 2 inches
0:48 Eagle4: CM woooo
0:48 Kadew: to represent that the original poster has 2 posts
0:48 Fusxfaranto: how about
0:48 Fusxfaranto: 22'2"
0:48 Kadew: or we could go for whatever equivalent 2 metres is
0:48 Quanyails: About six feet.
0:48 Quanyails: 6'2''?
0:48 Eagle4: 2m is way too large
0:48 Timeblaze: >The Yilx Pokemon
0:49 Quanyails: I'd go with jsut Chameleon. :P
0:49 Quanyails: just*
0:49 Quanyails: (Did I spell that right?)
0:49 Fusxfaranto: 2 miles
0:49 jas61292: 2'2'' and 22lbs
0:49 SgtWoodsy: are we nearly done here
0:50 Kadew: I like jas dimentions
0:50 Timeblaze: Almost, yeah
0:50 Kadew: small enough that the swinging from trees seems plausible
0:50 Fusxfaranto: that's too small though
0:50 Timeblaze: Also, which stats are we using?
0:50 Fusxfaranto: needs to be at least 6'
0:50 Fusxfaranto: the first set
0:50 Timeblaze: 5'5"
0:50 Kadew: a 6ft chameleon cannot swing from trees for fun
0:50 jas61292: ^
0:50 Fusxfaranto: yes it can
0:50 Timeblaze: 5'2"
0:50 jas61292: 2'5''
0:50 Kadew: it can swing trees around for fun
0:50 Kadew: but that's not the dex entry now is it
0:51 Kadew: dark purple is too dark
0:51 Kadew: fusx pick a ligher shade please
0:51 Fusxfaranto: there :p
0:51 Kadew: thankee
0:51 Birkal: what
0:51 Birkal: no cloyster quote
0:52 Birkal: bs
0:52 Timeblaze: Anything else we need to do?
0:52 Eagle4: haha birkal
0:52 Quanyails: It's there. O.o
0:52 Birkal: oh yeah
0:52 Timeblaze: Cloyster is there.
0:52 Birkal: :D :D :D
0:52 jas61292: Its the black one
0:52 Birkal: that was me
0:52 Timeblaze: Black entry.
0:52 Birkal: I did it
0:52 Birkal: :>
0:52 Eagle4: I did the swinging from branch one go me
0:52 Birkal: this looks awesome
0:52 Timeblaze: So, what about the artwork?
0:52 Birkal: good work team
0:52 Timeblaze: It's still... well, rough.
0:52 Eagle4: Thanks birkal
0:52 SgtWoodsy: i'll update the post later
0:52 SgtWoodsy: if there's better art
0:53 Eagle4: We posting this i cap kitchen?
0:53 Quanyails: Kadew's working on it.
0:53 Eagle4: in*
0:53 Kadew: I'm working on it
0:53 Kadew: lineart that doesnt suck takes a bit
0:53 SgtWoodsy: yeah eagle
0:53 Quanyails: And I'll add it to TV Tropes.
0:53 Eagle4: this has taken longer than i expected
0:53 Eagle4: because of the bloated movepool
0:54 Timeblaze: But it was fun.
0:54 Eagle4: it is very fun
0:54 Quanyails: First time I managed to participate in one of these. :)
0:54 Timeblaze: Froxbite, Cnidali, and now Chamereon.
0:54 Quanyails: Even if it was half-taken up by spriting.
0:55 Timeblaze: Now, if this thing was found in Unova, where would it be?
0:55 Fusxfaranto: heaven
0:55 jas61292: Deep in victory road
0:55 SgtWoodsy: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4567058&postcount=116
0:55 Kadew: unreleased dream world
0:55 Eagle4: idunno if this pokemon is OP or not
0:56 Eagle4: woo SgtWoodsy :)
0:56 Timeblaze: High Defenses + Slack Off + Multitype
0:56 Quanyails: A space is needed before Coil.
0:56 Timeblaze: And a wide movepool
0:56 jas61292: Its good, but any one set can only do so much
0:57 Eagle4: and lick, Quanyails :)
0:57 Timeblaze: I'm satisfied with the result.
0:57 Kadew: there should be a link to the original chamereon post in the post
0:57 Eagle4: ^
0:57 Kadew: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4422561&postcount=302
0:58 Eagle4: what CAP was that even in?
0:58 Eagle4: CAP 3?
0:58 Quanyails: Ah, should've made the ridge on its back larger.
0:58 SgtWoodsy: done
0:59 Quanyails: Mind if I adjust it, SgtWoodsy?
0:59 Kadew: that was for aurumoth
0:59 Eagle4: wow
0:59 Kadew: chamereon, if it had a final sub, coulda been aurumoth
0:59 Kadew: so the wide movepool is entirely valid
0:59 Timeblaze: I don't even know how that would be Bug/Psychic
0:59 jas61292: Yeah. The amazing bug/psychic chameleon
1:01 Quanyails: http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4171/chamereon.png <-- Mind updating?
1:01 Eagle4: can anybody explain to me why this is associated with Yilx?
1:02 Quanyails: It's one of his memes.
1:02 Eagle4: also, good sprite quanyails
1:02 Eagle4: oh okay
1:03 Quanyails: Well, I'll be heading back to IRC.
1:03 Quanyails: See you all there!


Anyway, this was my first time making one of these CAPs IRC-style, and it was a great experience for me. :DD
 

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I've quickly Photoshop-recolored it for each of the typings (from left to right, top to bottom: Normal/Fire/Water/Electric/Grass/Ice/Fighting/Poison/Ground/Flying/Psychic/Bug/Rock/Ghost/Dragon/Dark/Steel). Don't mind those dots around each sprite; that would just be for me to recognize each 96x96 box.
 

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Froxbite, Cnidali and now Chamereon.

C'mon Deck, let these mofos into ASB.

(Yes ik I'm going to be hated for mentioning ASB here but idgaf)
 

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