"T" Stands For Trouble
Hi everybody !
I'm there once again to present you my brand new RMT, the second one !
(you can find the first one here http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4441194.. è_é)
I realised that I learned a lot by submitting the first team to the community. I improved my vision on the game through the advices of the raters, and I thank them again for their participation to my first team !
But I'm here to talk about the new one !
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(them noobies try to copy his swag, they fail)
(them noobies try to copy his swag, they fail)
The theme is around "T stands for trouble" song, from my favourite singer Marvin Gaye.
I found this theme to fit my team.. because damn it is cool and... well... you know...
No, seriously, because my pokemons are badass (BUT KELDEO), and the "pattern" of the song fits perfectly.
See as the song starts slowly... imagine a funky guy walking timidly
You don't know where I'm getting at? Well i'm gonna start slowly putting hazards with my timid pokemon, then I'll roll over people with my badass pokemons... (okay I admit, I just wanted to put this song).
HERE COME THE TROUBLEMAKERZ!
The context/Peak :
I'm MistyMint :p
I wanted to get the reqs to vote for this annoying bug, thus I decided to ladder more than I usually do. I made a total of three accounts, and I always managed to have a win ratio of ~80%
However, it seems like it's not enough for now (there are games where you lose glicko² by winning, it gives me a furious desire to bang REAL HARD my head on the keyboard)..
Finally I managed to have the reqs with THIS team (entirely, yes I'm underlining it because I've been disapointed by some pseudo-peak people shout from the rooftops about), this was really not so hard. I peaked #29 in the process, but to be honest in the end it was just a rush to lower my deviation so I lost some couple of stupid matches. I could have done much better, and I'll try to increase this later.
Anyway, first I played with a classic rain, then with a classic sand.. and then I decided to try these HO teams featuring a Deoxys-D !
So basically I copied this team http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3472620, and I owe alot to this RMT (by this I mean the author AND the contributors).
But through the games I decided to adapt this team so it can fit my playstyle better. I don't consider myself as a great team builder yet (I'm only playing since October) so I find it logical to rely on classic teams to build my own one, I hope I wont be blamed for that.
I did well with this team, as well as when I was playing with the “classic” teams, so I am somehow proud of this, proud enough to publish it !
The context *BIS* :
Team Building :
The Movesets
(What a cewl Black Glasses transition.. Trouble men's privilege)
He's Shy, but he's tough aswell !
@
SHY GUY
252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
(Timid Nature +Spe, -Atk)
Stealth Rock
Taunt
Spikes
Magic Guard
Description :
This is the claaaassic Deoxys-D set, I think it’s pretty self explanatory.
I opted for Magic Guard to not be doomed by faster taunters/prankster.
I gave him a Tanga Berry to tank some round 1 U-Turn and the +4Def is to give a +SpA to Genesect since usually people lead with their Genesect when it’s a scarf.
Yes I know it can put me in a dangerous situation, but I never met someone who dared start with his Rock Polish and set up straight. Anyway, for this matter Gengar is here to revenge kill, and the Tanga Berry allows me to take a Bug Buzz.
So I start with SR and one layer of Spikes, a Genesect down, a Deoxys-D down, and a Gengar ready to trade his life for another pokemon. Not that bad.
I really wanted to make a HO team with Deoxys-D because you rarely get a bad start if you play decently. Most of the time I get at least two layers of entry hazards and prevent my enemy from laying a single one.
Deoxys-D lures the magic bouncers so well, Weavile takes care of them and usually, I can start the game 6v5 quite fast.
I try to not always lead with him, and to not always let him die when he could do better after. His resistance to Psychic and Fighting is indeed really good for the rest of the team, and he can have another chance to shine later in the game. Because people know what you will do with your Deoxys-D, it’s surprisingly easy to anticipate their action and grab an early advantage.
To sum up, he’s the first step, he’s the pokemon who trades his life to create a convenient configuration for my future sweepers. Aaaaaaaaaaaaand we thank him for that!
Changed his Tanga Berry for Rocky Helmet ! Useful against Multiscale Dragonite, Focus Sash Terrak, and to get some extra damage, I need that often !
When it comes to coolness, no one can compete with this guy
@
BADASS SINCE GEN1
12 HP / 252 SpA / 244 Spe
(Timid Nature +Spe, -Atk)
Shadow Ball
Hidden Power [Fire]
Focus Blast
Destiny Bond
Description :
Once you go Dark, you never come back (I know it doesn't really rhyme)
@
TROUBLEMAKER!
252 Atk / 32 SpD / 224 Spe
(Jolly Nature + Spe, -SpA)
Ice Shard
Night Slash
Low Kick
Pursuit
Description :
The third member of the “core”. He can come on a Psychic/Dark/Ghost attack that my team attracts and threaten the attacker. I needed a Pursuiter for the Magic Bouncers, Starmie, the Lati@s and stuff like that killing Keldeo/Terrakion/Gengar.
He also says “hello” to the genies, because these things hit seriously too damn hard, and their speed is not too low either, so they have the potential to destroy a lot of teams.
After Tiffanyy comment, I gave a shot to Night Slash>Ice Punch, it was okay, so... Thank you for this idea !
Low Kick is cool to kill Terrakion, Tyranitar, Heatran, Kyurem etc. before they kill you.
All in all, the coverage these moves offer is almost perfect. The speed that Weavile enjoys is really high; it allows me to threaten a large part of the metagame. He’s the perfect cleaner, and remains an underrated pokemon that performs really well at killing dragons, genies, trapping. I think it’s a really valuable niche for loads of teams.
I'm not gonna deny it, this one is not cool.. or maybe..
@
UGLY PONY
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
Hydro Pump
Surf
Secret Sword
Hidden Power [Ice]
Description :
He also got a big nose, but he wears it with class !
@
SWAGON SINCE GEN1
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA)
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Earthquake
Extreme Speed
Description :
Here is the Terrakion I used in the past :
This one isn't the coolest ever, to be honest, he's a shroom, but he does KUNG-FU !
@
KUNG-FU SHROOM
Technician
252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA)
Spore
Mach Punch
Bullet Seed
Rock Tomb
Description :
Here is the Scizor I used in the past :
Here is the Genesect I used in the past :
I'm MistyMint :p
I wanted to get the reqs to vote for this annoying bug, thus I decided to ladder more than I usually do. I made a total of three accounts, and I always managed to have a win ratio of ~80%
However, it seems like it's not enough for now (there are games where you lose glicko² by winning, it gives me a furious desire to bang REAL HARD my head on the keyboard)..
Finally I managed to have the reqs with THIS team (entirely, yes I'm underlining it because I've been disapointed by some pseudo-peak people shout from the rooftops about), this was really not so hard. I peaked #29 in the process, but to be honest in the end it was just a rush to lower my deviation so I lost some couple of stupid matches. I could have done much better, and I'll try to increase this later.
Anyway, first I played with a classic rain, then with a classic sand.. and then I decided to try these HO teams featuring a Deoxys-D !
So basically I copied this team http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3472620, and I owe alot to this RMT (by this I mean the author AND the contributors).
But through the games I decided to adapt this team so it can fit my playstyle better. I don't consider myself as a great team builder yet (I'm only playing since October) so I find it logical to rely on classic teams to build my own one, I hope I wont be blamed for that.
I did well with this team, as well as when I was playing with the “classic” teams, so I am somehow proud of this, proud enough to publish it !
The context *BIS* :
This team also allowed me to get the reqs for the following suspect, about Tornadus-T and Keldeo. I hadn't much time because my Internet has been down for a long time. So I decided to pick a team I was comfortable with, which would make the games fast.
Basically I decided to take my past team, and adapt it a little.
To be honest I had some issues with the Genesect replacement, but I found a good new pokemon to take his slot, a pokemon that I would have considered at the first thought.
After 80 games, with a 74-11 final result, and on the top of this, I was playing games sometimes 3 by 3. But once my internet shut down and I lost 3 games at once. It was like 75 points that I lost this time :x.
But I made it, with this very team !
Basically I decided to take my past team, and adapt it a little.
To be honest I had some issues with the Genesect replacement, but I found a good new pokemon to take his slot, a pokemon that I would have considered at the first thought.
After 80 games, with a 74-11 final result, and on the top of this, I was playing games sometimes 3 by 3. But once my internet shut down and I lost 3 games at once. It was like 75 points that I lost this time :x.
But I made it, with this very team !
Team Building :
I started with that (yes only 5 pokemons, I changed so much the 6th that I wont go through explaining this) :
Then I decided that Dragonite wasn’t the sweeper I wanted, I switched him for a Terrakion I was more confortable with.
Along with this decision, Magnezone wasn’t so worthy anymore.
So I changed him for a pseudo-trapper that could get the other dragons, kill the genies, trap the ghost/psychic that are annoying to Gengar (especially Espeon/Xatu or Starmie) : Weavile !
Weavile does this job better than any other pokemon. While there are other pursuiters, none of them are as fast as Weavile and benefit from a stab.
Now, I changed my Starmie to a pure sweeper with Life Orb and then with Scarf, but it was not satisfying me, I wanted moar powar..
I decided to take Keldeo with me (even if this pony is ugly as fuck).
And after since it’s the suspect and because another resistance to Psychic was sweet to have, I adopted a Genesect.
However, now the suspect is over, Genesect is banned, and I was happy to contribute to his penalty.
Scizor, Genesect's twin, will be the new member. Even if they have nothing in common, I pretty much needed the Steel typing, and there isn't a lot of Steel sweeper, Lucario was really too frail.
Finally, I decided to get rid of Scizor, he really lacked some coverage. I decided to pick a unic version of Breloom instead.
This is now the Final Team :
Then I decided that Dragonite wasn’t the sweeper I wanted, I switched him for a Terrakion I was more confortable with.
Along with this decision, Magnezone wasn’t so worthy anymore.
So I changed him for a pseudo-trapper that could get the other dragons, kill the genies, trap the ghost/psychic that are annoying to Gengar (especially Espeon/Xatu or Starmie) : Weavile !
Weavile does this job better than any other pokemon. While there are other pursuiters, none of them are as fast as Weavile and benefit from a stab.
Now, I changed my Starmie to a pure sweeper with Life Orb and then with Scarf, but it was not satisfying me, I wanted moar powar..
I decided to take Keldeo with me (even if this pony is ugly as fuck).
And after since it’s the suspect and because another resistance to Psychic was sweet to have, I adopted a Genesect.
However, now the suspect is over, Genesect is banned, and I was happy to contribute to his penalty.
Scizor, Genesect's twin, will be the new member. Even if they have nothing in common, I pretty much needed the Steel typing, and there isn't a lot of Steel sweeper, Lucario was really too frail.
Finally, I decided to get rid of Scizor, he really lacked some coverage. I decided to pick a unic version of Breloom instead.
This is now the Final Team :
The Movesets
(What a cewl Black Glasses transition.. Trouble men's privilege)
He's Shy, but he's tough aswell !
SHY GUY
252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
(Timid Nature +Spe, -Atk)
Description :
This pokemon sure has A LOT of troubles, and I'm not making his life easier.
He starts a game, and takes hits like a punching bag...
He starts a game, and takes hits like a punching bag...
This is the claaaassic Deoxys-D set, I think it’s pretty self explanatory.
I opted for Magic Guard to not be doomed by faster taunters/prankster.
I gave him a Tanga Berry to tank some round 1 U-Turn and the +4Def is to give a +SpA to Genesect since usually people lead with their Genesect when it’s a scarf.
Yes I know it can put me in a dangerous situation, but I never met someone who dared start with his Rock Polish and set up straight. Anyway, for this matter Gengar is here to revenge kill, and the Tanga Berry allows me to take a Bug Buzz.
So I start with SR and one layer of Spikes, a Genesect down, a Deoxys-D down, and a Gengar ready to trade his life for another pokemon. Not that bad.
I really wanted to make a HO team with Deoxys-D because you rarely get a bad start if you play decently. Most of the time I get at least two layers of entry hazards and prevent my enemy from laying a single one.
Deoxys-D lures the magic bouncers so well, Weavile takes care of them and usually, I can start the game 6v5 quite fast.
I try to not always lead with him, and to not always let him die when he could do better after. His resistance to Psychic and Fighting is indeed really good for the rest of the team, and he can have another chance to shine later in the game. Because people know what you will do with your Deoxys-D, it’s surprisingly easy to anticipate their action and grab an early advantage.
To sum up, he’s the first step, he’s the pokemon who trades his life to create a convenient configuration for my future sweepers. Aaaaaaaaaaaaand we thank him for that!
Changed his Tanga Berry for Rocky Helmet ! Useful against Multiscale Dragonite, Focus Sash Terrak, and to get some extra damage, I need that often !
When it comes to coolness, no one can compete with this guy
BADASS SINCE GEN1
12 HP / 252 SpA / 244 Spe
(Timid Nature +Spe, -Atk)
Description :
Oh... This is THE set that I discovered in the RMT I mentioned. This set is seriously a masterpiece. Full credits to Kidogo for that !
While the combination of Focus Sash and Substitute can seem totally retarded, it provides in fact Gengar with everything he needs. With this odd set, he can be useful in every situation. But Kidogo explains it better than me !
You can revenge kill stuff like Genesect if they try to set-up fast in the game (your enemy won’t find a room to set-up later in theory). Obviously you can usually kill any spinner, bar Starmie, but the star is supposed to be killed by Weavile.
With the other spinners, here is how it goes: I keep using substitute while they break it, thinking I’m totally dumb, and before the last one (because else it’s obvious) I Destiny Bond. No one ever predicted it this way, they are just so afraid of dealing with a Split Pain Gengar being a substitute, that they will never let you set-up a substitute.
Focus Sash and HP [Fire] also help you to deal with Scizor, who comes always on you because they think you can’t touch him hard enough.
Many people think Gengar is a horrible pokemon, who hits not hard, is frail, spin block poorly. This is true, but it won’t remains true if you can adapt your build to the situation, and if you can use your Gengar in a way your enemy won’t predict.
One thing for sure, with this set, he never let me down, I just have to choose who I need to kill and he usually do the job. Things like Defensive Jirachi under rain that can wall me forever are easier to deal with thanks to Gengar who can come in a Body Slam and set-up a substitute/trade Gengar for Jirachi.
It is just needed to use Gengar at its full potential, to know since the team viewer, what will be its role. This way you rarely fail at using the tricky ghost.
* I now changed Substitute for Focus Blast following the advices of Undisputed !
While the combination of Focus Sash and Substitute can seem totally retarded, it provides in fact Gengar with everything he needs. With this odd set, he can be useful in every situation. But Kidogo explains it better than me !
You can revenge kill stuff like Genesect if they try to set-up fast in the game (your enemy won’t find a room to set-up later in theory). Obviously you can usually kill any spinner, bar Starmie, but the star is supposed to be killed by Weavile.
With the other spinners, here is how it goes: I keep using substitute while they break it, thinking I’m totally dumb, and before the last one (because else it’s obvious) I Destiny Bond. No one ever predicted it this way, they are just so afraid of dealing with a Split Pain Gengar being a substitute, that they will never let you set-up a substitute.
Focus Sash and HP [Fire] also help you to deal with Scizor, who comes always on you because they think you can’t touch him hard enough.
Many people think Gengar is a horrible pokemon, who hits not hard, is frail, spin block poorly. This is true, but it won’t remains true if you can adapt your build to the situation, and if you can use your Gengar in a way your enemy won’t predict.
One thing for sure, with this set, he never let me down, I just have to choose who I need to kill and he usually do the job. Things like Defensive Jirachi under rain that can wall me forever are easier to deal with thanks to Gengar who can come in a Body Slam and set-up a substitute/trade Gengar for Jirachi.
It is just needed to use Gengar at its full potential, to know since the team viewer, what will be its role. This way you rarely fail at using the tricky ghost.
* I now changed Substitute for Focus Blast following the advices of Undisputed !
Once you go Dark, you never come back (I know it doesn't really rhyme)
TROUBLEMAKER!
252 Atk / 32 SpD / 224 Spe
(Jolly Nature + Spe, -SpA)
Description :
Watch how they run away from a Shadow Ball, coming from an astonishing 50 base SpA, what would happen if I use this 120 base Atk.
The third member of the “core”. He can come on a Psychic/Dark/Ghost attack that my team attracts and threaten the attacker. I needed a Pursuiter for the Magic Bouncers, Starmie, the Lati@s and stuff like that killing Keldeo/Terrakion/Gengar.
He also says “hello” to the genies, because these things hit seriously too damn hard, and their speed is not too low either, so they have the potential to destroy a lot of teams.
After Tiffanyy comment, I gave a shot to Night Slash>Ice Punch, it was okay, so... Thank you for this idea !
Low Kick is cool to kill Terrakion, Tyranitar, Heatran, Kyurem etc. before they kill you.
All in all, the coverage these moves offer is almost perfect. The speed that Weavile enjoys is really high; it allows me to threaten a large part of the metagame. He’s the perfect cleaner, and remains an underrated pokemon that performs really well at killing dragons, genies, trapping. I think it’s a really valuable niche for loads of teams.
I'm not gonna deny it, this one is not cool.. or maybe..
UGLY PONY
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
Description :
I totally HATE the graphics of the new pokemons.
This pony is so ugly, so ridiculous... but so strong. I miss the old pokemons, they had more personality. Compare this crap to Rapidash
!
I seriously want to kill this big noosed pony. But whatever…
I had the shiny star Starmie, now I got the fat pony. He hits harder, Hydro Pump and Secret Sword are also nice but… hell, how to fill these two last slots. I’m wondering if I should change Icy Wind and Hidden Power [Ghost] for Surf and Hidden Power [Ice]. I’m really not using Hidden Power [Ghost] a lot. But Weavile has issues trapping Jellicent if he gets burned so…
He’s a pretty cool scarfer, especially when I meet a Rain team. They are usually just doomed by the Hydro Pump spamming. With the SR up, the pony can kill a large part of opposing Rain team team.
I don’t have much to say about the pony… Being able to hit on both side of the Defense is just amazing and a little overpowered. I needed a resistance to Bullet Punch that’s why I switched Starmie for another water pokemon. I don’t know many Scarfers that resist SR, got “mixed” attack, resist Bullet Punch, and annoy Rain teams as much as he does.
*Thanks DragonUser and Undisputed for their feedback on the set !
This pony is so ugly, so ridiculous... but so strong. I miss the old pokemons, they had more personality. Compare this crap to Rapidash
I seriously want to kill this big noosed pony. But whatever…
I had the shiny star Starmie, now I got the fat pony. He hits harder, Hydro Pump and Secret Sword are also nice but… hell, how to fill these two last slots. I’m wondering if I should change Icy Wind and Hidden Power [Ghost] for Surf and Hidden Power [Ice]. I’m really not using Hidden Power [Ghost] a lot. But Weavile has issues trapping Jellicent if he gets burned so…
He’s a pretty cool scarfer, especially when I meet a Rain team. They are usually just doomed by the Hydro Pump spamming. With the SR up, the pony can kill a large part of opposing Rain team team.
I don’t have much to say about the pony… Being able to hit on both side of the Defense is just amazing and a little overpowered. I needed a resistance to Bullet Punch that’s why I switched Starmie for another water pokemon. I don’t know many Scarfers that resist SR, got “mixed” attack, resist Bullet Punch, and annoy Rain teams as much as he does.
*Thanks DragonUser and Undisputed for their feedback on the set !
He also got a big nose, but he wears it with class !
SWAGON SINCE GEN1
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA)
Description :
I blew so much money at the casino for this guy, he HAD to be cool.
Even if this pokemon is not as cool as Gengar, I must admit he's not far from it. Damn !
!
Another GEN1 Pokemon, I'm so happy ^.^
Following DragonUser advices, I tried the first Dragon pokemon of the game. I must say that at first I was skeptical.
But after some testing I realised that Terrakion was a little too "overkill" in this team. Most of the time, it's true he sweeps. But what he sweeps could be swept by Weavile for instance.
However, Dragonite could come in tough situations and totally save my day !
When I still have Multiscale, and if that Scarf Keldeo who is totally ruining my team is stuck on something else that HP Ice, I can set two DD and end the game most of the time. This is so... orgasmic... to keep pressing Outrage (well it's not like you can press anything else when you started the rampage... but yes it's still GREAT).
His resistances are great. Terrakion was increasing my weakness to stuff like Bullet Punch and Mach Punch. Dragonite takes water attacks, grass moves, fighting combo and boost to prepare his rampage.
Another thing I realised, my Deoxys-D was really good at preventing my opponent from setting SR. This helps Dragonite a lot since it's not rare to be able to keep Multiscale up.
Moreover, when people revenge kill my Dragonite with I don't know.. A scarfer with an Ice move. I can send my Genesect and get a totally free Rock Polish.
He also offers me another security net against RP Genesect if Multiscale is up (93% to take an IceBeam).
A great change, there is no regret.
I swaped later Fire Punch for Earthquake, to kill stuff like Jirachi under Rain, Tentacruel, Heatran etc.
*Thanks DragonUser for this great idea !
Even if this pokemon is not as cool as Gengar, I must admit he's not far from it. Damn !
Another GEN1 Pokemon, I'm so happy ^.^
Following DragonUser advices, I tried the first Dragon pokemon of the game. I must say that at first I was skeptical.
But after some testing I realised that Terrakion was a little too "overkill" in this team. Most of the time, it's true he sweeps. But what he sweeps could be swept by Weavile for instance.
However, Dragonite could come in tough situations and totally save my day !
When I still have Multiscale, and if that Scarf Keldeo who is totally ruining my team is stuck on something else that HP Ice, I can set two DD and end the game most of the time. This is so... orgasmic... to keep pressing Outrage (well it's not like you can press anything else when you started the rampage... but yes it's still GREAT).
His resistances are great. Terrakion was increasing my weakness to stuff like Bullet Punch and Mach Punch. Dragonite takes water attacks, grass moves, fighting combo and boost to prepare his rampage.
Another thing I realised, my Deoxys-D was really good at preventing my opponent from setting SR. This helps Dragonite a lot since it's not rare to be able to keep Multiscale up.
Moreover, when people revenge kill my Dragonite with I don't know.. A scarfer with an Ice move. I can send my Genesect and get a totally free Rock Polish.
He also offers me another security net against RP Genesect if Multiscale is up (93% to take an IceBeam).
A great change, there is no regret.
I swaped later Fire Punch for Earthquake, to kill stuff like Jirachi under Rain, Tentacruel, Heatran etc.
*Thanks DragonUser for this great idea !
Here is the Terrakion I used in the past :
Overdose of steroids incoming.
@
IM ALMOST CEWL
4 HP / 248 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature (+Spe, -SpA)
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Substitute
Sword Dance
Description :
IM ALMOST CEWL
4 HP / 248 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature (+Spe, -SpA)
Description :
Another Sacred Swordsman trololol. I don’t know who draw him (them) by the way. He almost made a decent job on this one though...
This is the same set I ran with my past RMT, since I’m comfortable with it, I believe Terrakion rapes a lot of teams and goes well with the rest of the team so far.
Here again I don’t have much to say about him, I needed someone to hit hard and he does. Classic stuff.
This set is amazing in the sense that if you get a free turn you can basically adapt your Terrakion to the situation.
If you need speed, keep using substitute, and if you already outspeed everybody or just want extra power right now, use Sword Dance.
There are only few pokemon that can both prevent Terrakion and Genesect from setting up, so usually I can easily find a room for one of them.
You probably all know how this set works, so I’m not gonna waste more of your time explaining obvious things.
I don’t see which sweeper could replace Terrakion. He’s a real sex machine.
*Special joke for my few fans*
*Thanks GengarNemesis for his feedback on the EVs spread !
This is the same set I ran with my past RMT, since I’m comfortable with it, I believe Terrakion rapes a lot of teams and goes well with the rest of the team so far.
Here again I don’t have much to say about him, I needed someone to hit hard and he does. Classic stuff.
This set is amazing in the sense that if you get a free turn you can basically adapt your Terrakion to the situation.
If you need speed, keep using substitute, and if you already outspeed everybody or just want extra power right now, use Sword Dance.
There are only few pokemon that can both prevent Terrakion and Genesect from setting up, so usually I can easily find a room for one of them.
You probably all know how this set works, so I’m not gonna waste more of your time explaining obvious things.
I don’t see which sweeper could replace Terrakion. He’s a real sex machine.
*Special joke for my few fans*
*Thanks GengarNemesis for his feedback on the EVs spread !
This one isn't the coolest ever, to be honest, he's a shroom, but he does KUNG-FU !
KUNG-FU SHROOM
Technician
252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA)
Description :
This guy got no arms, and he still punchs like a true champion.[/B].
Each time I watch this pokemon, and his role on the team I'm like "how the hell could I explain why he is here, I don't even know myself". I'm kidding obviously, but in fact, I must say that this Breloom does not come from theorycrafting around the team AT ALL.
I just wanted to try it, and so I did. It did work so fine I was amazed myself to say the truth.
The point is, his coverage is just so good, his Mach Punch is also what the team needs. And overall he's one of the few physical sweepers able to take down bulky water, if not the only one in OU right now.
Spore gives so much tempo to the team, it's just insane. I don't even need to worry for the slower spinners for instance, I just Spore them. The coverage of Mach Punch is just simply better than Bullet Punch and.. yes there is this last I need to talk you about :
ROCK TOMB ?
What the fuck is this right ? This move is no gimmick, and this set is absolutly NO JOKE.
I didn't want the SD version, I just find is not optimised for the team. I mean, I have enough issues with ScarfTios and all, no need to be condemned to attack with Bullet Seed and Mach Punch only. Moreover Breloom would be a big set-up for Dragonite. I just can't afford this, I can't play around with my frail sweepers, I need to make sure the pokemon against me will get revenged 100%
The other sweet thing about Rock Tomb is .. TORNADUS-T, yes the next Uber. The idea is pretty simple. You put hazards with deoxys-D as the opposite offense Rain kills you with the Specs Toed. Then you move to Breloom and Spore whatever is incoming. If he switched straight to Tornadus-T, well you can guess that it's a Sleep Talk one already and go to Dragonite for instance. If it's not the case, you can Rock Tomb. My point being, there is not much in a Rain Team that resists Grass. Tornadus-T, Thundurus-T, Ferrothorn it is, you can all rape them (and Jirachi also, well you need to weaken him a little for the Fighting Gem boosted Mach Punch).
This set is just what I was looking for. Why not Life Orb ? well for instance Breloom barely lives HiddenPower Ice from Scarf Keldeo, you better have him full life, because those 10% will kill you else. In sand, you'll also hate Life Orb recoil from both Weavile and Breloom.
I don't see why Rock Tomb isn't more used, if not for the accuracy. It does also hit neutraly Lati@s, Amoongus, Celebi etc. this can save the game with a HO, no joke !
Each time I watch this pokemon, and his role on the team I'm like "how the hell could I explain why he is here, I don't even know myself". I'm kidding obviously, but in fact, I must say that this Breloom does not come from theorycrafting around the team AT ALL.
I just wanted to try it, and so I did. It did work so fine I was amazed myself to say the truth.
The point is, his coverage is just so good, his Mach Punch is also what the team needs. And overall he's one of the few physical sweepers able to take down bulky water, if not the only one in OU right now.
Spore gives so much tempo to the team, it's just insane. I don't even need to worry for the slower spinners for instance, I just Spore them. The coverage of Mach Punch is just simply better than Bullet Punch and.. yes there is this last I need to talk you about :
ROCK TOMB ?
What the fuck is this right ? This move is no gimmick, and this set is absolutly NO JOKE.
I didn't want the SD version, I just find is not optimised for the team. I mean, I have enough issues with ScarfTios and all, no need to be condemned to attack with Bullet Seed and Mach Punch only. Moreover Breloom would be a big set-up for Dragonite. I just can't afford this, I can't play around with my frail sweepers, I need to make sure the pokemon against me will get revenged 100%
The other sweet thing about Rock Tomb is .. TORNADUS-T, yes the next Uber. The idea is pretty simple. You put hazards with deoxys-D as the opposite offense Rain kills you with the Specs Toed. Then you move to Breloom and Spore whatever is incoming. If he switched straight to Tornadus-T, well you can guess that it's a Sleep Talk one already and go to Dragonite for instance. If it's not the case, you can Rock Tomb. My point being, there is not much in a Rain Team that resists Grass. Tornadus-T, Thundurus-T, Ferrothorn it is, you can all rape them (and Jirachi also, well you need to weaken him a little for the Fighting Gem boosted Mach Punch).
This set is just what I was looking for. Why not Life Orb ? well for instance Breloom barely lives HiddenPower Ice from Scarf Keldeo, you better have him full life, because those 10% will kill you else. In sand, you'll also hate Life Orb recoil from both Weavile and Breloom.
I don't see why Rock Tomb isn't more used, if not for the accuracy. It does also hit neutraly Lati@s, Amoongus, Celebi etc. this can save the game with a HO, no joke !
Here is the Scizor I used in the past :
The return of the metallic bug, being cool is an art of living for this guy.
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GENEZOR
252 HP / 56 Atk / 200 SpD
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA)
Bug Bite
Bullet Punch
Roost
Sword Dance
Description :
GENEZOR
252 HP / 56 Atk / 200 SpD
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA)
Description :
Why would you use your Metal Coat to get Steelix
... when you can have THIS FREAKING BUG.
Yey, this pokemon is cool, he has to be here in fact ! I remember how hard it was to catch a Scyther in GSC
. But he made me win my first Bug-Catching contest. Of course to get him you have to find a friend... Thankfully I'm not so bad at the Friend-Catching too.
Hands down, the coolest pokemon in GEN2, fuck you Tyranitar
So, why did he replace Genesect after the ban ?
Basically I needed a Steel pokemon, an offensive Steel pokemon.
I wanted a resistance to Ice and to Dragon, and well it's pretty hard to play in BW without any Steel pokemon. With his typing, he can come on the Scarfed Ice/Dragon moves attracted by the rampaging Dragonite.
He doesn't need so much speed since he got a strong priority move, and with SD he can break walls quite well.
Genesect was rolling over offensive teams, Scizor does ok against them, but helps me also a lot against more Stallish teams.
I didn't chose the CB basically because it doesn't have the same wall breaking power, and I orentied this team to act like a chain of sweepers, not like a Volt-Turning team. I U-Turn and what? I let one of my frail sweeper eat a move ? no thanks :\
Moreover, people don't really anticipate this set, it's really easy to set-up. I'm always a little disapointed by the coverage, but well, he can't have everything (else he would be with his brother in Uber huehue).
Evs allow me to kill Tornadus-T at +2 with Bullet Punch after SRock Damages. I'm also able to take a Hurricane from Tornadus-T if my Scizor is full Health.
The Lum Berry is a really cool item, thanks White symphoni on this point !
Yey, this pokemon is cool, he has to be here in fact ! I remember how hard it was to catch a Scyther in GSC
Hands down, the coolest pokemon in GEN2, fuck you Tyranitar
So, why did he replace Genesect after the ban ?
Basically I needed a Steel pokemon, an offensive Steel pokemon.
I wanted a resistance to Ice and to Dragon, and well it's pretty hard to play in BW without any Steel pokemon. With his typing, he can come on the Scarfed Ice/Dragon moves attracted by the rampaging Dragonite.
He doesn't need so much speed since he got a strong priority move, and with SD he can break walls quite well.
Genesect was rolling over offensive teams, Scizor does ok against them, but helps me also a lot against more Stallish teams.
I didn't chose the CB basically because it doesn't have the same wall breaking power, and I orentied this team to act like a chain of sweepers, not like a Volt-Turning team. I U-Turn and what? I let one of my frail sweeper eat a move ? no thanks :\
Moreover, people don't really anticipate this set, it's really easy to set-up. I'm always a little disapointed by the coverage, but well, he can't have everything (else he would be with his brother in Uber huehue).
Evs allow me to kill Tornadus-T at +2 with Bullet Punch after SRock Damages. I'm also able to take a Hurricane from Tornadus-T if my Scizor is full Health.
The Lum Berry is a really cool item, thanks White symphoni on this point !
Here is the Genesect I used in the past :
Too cool for OU ?
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IM ALMOST GONE
24 HP / 248 SpA / 4 SDef / 232 Spe
Modest Nature (+SpA, -Atk)
Rock Polish
Flamethrower
Giga Drain
Ice Beam
Description :
IM ALMOST GONE
24 HP / 248 SpA / 4 SDef / 232 Spe
Modest Nature (+SpA, -Atk)
Description :
Genesect looks like some kind of power ranger/transformer… oh back in the day…
This pokemon also has some troubles right now "huehue" with all the hate he's taking, this team won't soften it "huehue"².
Here is the infamous set, from the pokemon that many players (including me ^.^) want to see away from OU.
Every team must have a way to deal with this guy, but it’s far from being always easy.
Giga Drain help a lot to mitigate the Life Orb recoil and against fat water pokemon/stuff like Terrakion. The others moves are here for coverage. It’s funny to see that the “flaw” he had was his Speed, but after Rock Polish, he can’t even be beaten at the Speed war by a Scarfed Jolteon >.<
It’s not always easy to land the perfect set-up, since you need the +SpA and the Rock Polish free turn, but when you do, your enemy better has a dedicated counter.
To me, his typing is the issue (the icing on the cake), it’s definitely too easy for him to set-up thanks to this near perfect typing. I bet if his typing was different, maybe it wouldn’t have been so strong. Maybe with a typing weak to at least one priority…
His resistance to Psychic helps a lot along with my two “Sacred Swordsmen”, and well… Let’s use Genesect before telling him “Farewell”.
*Thanks DragonUser for his EVs spread !
*Anyway he fits almost anywhere >.<
This pokemon also has some troubles right now "huehue" with all the hate he's taking, this team won't soften it "huehue"².
Here is the infamous set, from the pokemon that many players (including me ^.^) want to see away from OU.
Every team must have a way to deal with this guy, but it’s far from being always easy.
Giga Drain help a lot to mitigate the Life Orb recoil and against fat water pokemon/stuff like Terrakion. The others moves are here for coverage. It’s funny to see that the “flaw” he had was his Speed, but after Rock Polish, he can’t even be beaten at the Speed war by a Scarfed Jolteon >.<
It’s not always easy to land the perfect set-up, since you need the +SpA and the Rock Polish free turn, but when you do, your enemy better has a dedicated counter.
To me, his typing is the issue (the icing on the cake), it’s definitely too easy for him to set-up thanks to this near perfect typing. I bet if his typing was different, maybe it wouldn’t have been so strong. Maybe with a typing weak to at least one priority…
His resistance to Psychic helps a lot along with my two “Sacred Swordsmen”, and well… Let’s use Genesect before telling him “Farewell”.
*Thanks DragonUser for his EVs spread !
*Anyway he fits almost anywhere >.<
Now that you know what's the deal..
As I said, I've been doing fine with this team. I'm pretty confident with the team composition in itself. I'm more worried about some sets like Keldeo's one. I don't really like to rely on a 80% accuracy stab, but I feel bad dropping a coverage move for Surf.
Here is for the possible match-up. I stole it ALL from PenguinX post on the CCAT thread.. I hope it's okay and thanks for that ! I honnestly learned alot from you especially !
Match-up list :
Defensive Threat List :
Abomasnow : - SubSeed : Gengar HP Fire/Breloom Mach Punch/Keldeo Secret Sword/Weavile Low Kick
Amoonguss : - Physically Defensive : Gengar HP Fire / Dragonite set-up / Breloom Spore before he does
Blissey : Scizor/Keldeo Secret Sword/ Weavile / Dragonite / Breloom
Bronzong : Breloom Spore Mach Punch / Dragonite Set-up / Gengar
Celebi : Dragonite set-up / Gengar Shadow Ball HP Fire / Weavile trap
Chansey : Breloom / Keldeo Secret Sword / Weavile / Dragonite
Cresselia : Breloom Spore / Weavile
Dragonite : Dragonite / Weavile / Keldeo HP Ice / Breloom Rock Tomb
Empoleon : Gengar Focus Blast / Keldeo Secret Sword / Weavile Low Kick / Breloom
Espeon : Gengar Shadow Ball / Dragonite / Weavile
Ferrothorn : Breloom / Gengar HP Fire Focus Blast / Dragonite set-up if not Leech Seed, I usually scout with Breloom to not lose Multiscale so easily / Keldeo Secret Sword / Weavile Low Kick
Forretress : Gengar HP Fire / Dragonite set-up / Keldeo HPump / Breloom Spore this dude
Gastrodon : Breloom / Dragonite Set-up Outrage / Keldeo Secret Sword 2HKO SDef versions.
Gliscor : Breloom / Keldeo HP Ice HPump / Weavile Ice Shard
Gyarados : Nothing is SE, he is easily killed by non SE moves and SR though.
Heatran : Gengar Focus Blast / Dragonite set-up and EQ , Weavile Low Kick (120 Base Power against Heatran)/ Keldeo HPump Secret Sword / Breloom Mach Punch
Hippowdon : Breloom / Dragonite is untouched if no Ice Fang / Keldeo HPump / Weavile Ice Shard (I miss Ice Punch here).
Jellicent : Breloom / Weavile / Dragonite Set-Up / Gengar Shadow Ball
Jirachi : Breloom Boosted Mach Punch if weakened/ Dragonite Set-Up EQ / Night Slash from Weavile does also a ton. The issue being the Body Slam spamming, you need Gengar if he's not dead to open a sure way for a sweeper.
Kyurem-Bor not to B : Breloom Mach Punch / Gengar Focus Blast / Dragonite Outrage / Keldeo Secret Sword / Weavile Low Kick
Landorus-T or not to T : Keldeo HPump HP Ice / Weavile Ice Shard
Latias : Dragonite Outrage (if Multiscale is up) / Gengar Shadow Ball (Sash up) / Weavile
Mew : Dragonite set-up / Gengar Shadow Ball / Weavile Night Slash Pursuit (need to scout his set, and it's ok, I got Magic Coat for the lead version)
Ninetales : Dragonite Set-Up / Keldeo (it's not a big threat given how Dragonite set-up on him and the SR damages, but he can be a little annoying). He also takes a ton from my physical attacks.
Politoed : Dragonite set-up / Breloom / Keldeo is pretty safe against him (same as above, a little annoying but he can't do too much)
Porygon2 : Breloom Spore and tries to kill / Keldeo Secret Sword (he's annoying to say the least, but beside staying here he can't do too much, care about Trick Room)
Quagsire : Breloom, Breloom, keep him alive of it's gonna be harder.
Rotom-H : Dragonite Set-Up / Keldeo HPump
Rotom-W : Dragonite Set-Up / Keldeo Secret Sword if no TWave / Breloom
Sableye : Keldeo HPump / Gengar (funny because he always tries to taunt me here)
Skarmory : Gengar HP Fire / Dragonite Fire Punch / Keldeo HPump
Starmie : Gengar Shadow Ball / Weavile / Breloom
Tangrowth : Gengar HP Fire / Dragonite Set-Up / Keldeo HP Ice
Tentacruel : Destiny Bond, Gengar needs to lower him enough to force him to run away once I die(with Hazards still up he won't be able to go back). For instance after Gengar death (if DBond fails, that happened once), I can switch to Dragonite and force him to switch). He makes me wonder, maybe I should use EQ>Fire Punch (helps with Heatran too). I put him in Orange, but Destiny Bond is for him, it's up to me to play it well.
Now I got Breloom for this dude ! And EQ on Dragonite !
Tyranitar : Breloom / Gengar Focus Blast / Keldeo Secret Sword HPump/ Weavile Low Kick
Vaporeon : Breloom / Dragonite Set-Up / Keldeo is safe and can Secret Sword
Xatu : Dragonite Set-Up / Gengar Shadow Ball / Weavile
Wobbuffet : Breloom Spore this guy and kills him / Dragonite DD and attacks when he Encore / Weavile Night Slash / Gengar can play around with Shadow Ball / DBond when Miror Coat.
Whimsicott : Priorities / Dragonite set-up and Outrage / Gengar HP Fire / Weavile
I hope this team will be used by some people, and I hope they will enjoy playing it at least as much as I enjoyed playing with the RMT in Smogon.
Considered changes :
The section to keep tabs on what people suggest to the team.
Sun Offense:
This seems to be a good match-up, Xatu needs to be lured and trapped by Weavile and everthing will be fine. It's up to me to "outplay" the enemy here. One thing for sure, usually it depends on if I can lay SR and manage to not let the enemy spin them. A lot of Sun teams run Forretress or Donphan. These two spinners can do absolutly nothing to Gengar. The issue will be the Venusaur. Before I had Starmie, now it's far harder to deal with this sweeper. If my Gengar sash is still up I can trade my Gengar for crucial damages and finish it with Weavile.
If my Gengar lost his sash, and if Venusaur had a free set-up turn, I am in troubles. But HO usually don't have plenty of ways to deal with this pokemon :\
Weavile does ~70% with Ice Shard on Venusaur, with some switching to play with the HP Fire and the SR/Spikes damage, it is stil highly manageable if I play it decently enough.
Now, since I got Dragonite, this match-up is even better for me. I have a security net given his resistances and his boosted Fire Punch. With Lum Berry I can kill Venusaur no matter what happens (I must care of the HP Ice variant, but with Multiscale I can take it, anyway all I need is some LO recoil damage to let Weavile end the job)
Rain Offense:
Rain is a tough thing. Keldeo rolls over them all, only opposing scarf Keldeo can be though, it's usually really easy for my Deoxys-D to lay entry hazards since they try to start Genesect then switch to Politoed while I'm putting my SR/Spikes.
It was not easy here to find a room for Terrakion, Dragonite got more chances to set-up and get some kills. Keldeo carries the team on his shoulders most of the time along with Dragonite. I need to scout for the Politoed set, since it's the weakest link, if he's choice or defensive, it gives me some opportunities to play with. Moreover Weavile lighten Keldeo role by being able to land some easy revenge kill on the genies/dragons.
I need to do a good trade with my Gengar since he won't do much damages under the Rain.
I'm more worried about the semi-stall Rain to be honest since it's really depending on Gengar ability to trade his life with annoying pokemons (like Jirachi >.<) after blocking the spinner.
Now with Scizor, I got some issues to hit Bulky Waters, but Bullet Punch after a SD will hit pretty hard.
Buuuuuuuuuut, I changed him for Breloom, this match up is ALLRIGHT now !
Sand Offense 1:
It's one of the match-up I prefer, because I played this type of teams alot, I have usually a good feeling at predicting them. They don't have much to contain Deoxys-D ability to lay hazards. Moreover they have issues taking the combination of Fighting/Ice moves from Weavile.
Keldeo crushs them quite hard also, Genesect has some possibilities to set up and can end the game fast this way supported by hazards. Now Scizor lose a lot of coverage in comparison of Genesect, but can hit crucial targets like Stoutland easily with no set-up.
Sand Offense 2:
Same goes as above, even better since Tyranitar is really easy to play with. They usually bring him to Deoxys-D and after the kill I just have to send Weavile . Weavile goes rampage mode along with Keldeo there.
Excepted if I'm outplayed badly, I should be able to get it.
DragMag:
I didn't meet alot of them... but I really wish I had. Weavile is the worst thing they could meet, he even kills Magnezone with Low Kick (I must scout to see if it's the scarfed version though). SR usually deals a nice chunk of damage to them. I usually laugh at them trying to set-up, knowing that I'll just have to revenge them with Weavile. Genesect can take a +1 Outrage from Dragonite, and set-up. The priorities will be very useful, but it's all about Weavile and Scarf Keldeo here, the other mates are only here to secure their way !
My own Dragonite can end the game if he manages to set-up.
Not really a match-up I'm afraid of.
Heavy Offense:
It's up to our Deoxys-D, mine got Magic Coat so usually I'm fine. My focus sash Gengar helps me alot here to kill the opposing Gengar in a 1v1. I'm fairly confident in my sweepers. This match-up can go either depending on the enemy team, but Weavile is a nice asset to the team given his speed and his priority.
Scizor helps here, the priorities will be crucial, and a bulky Scizor is always hard to kill.
Breloom now, is easier to kill, but the priorities hit stronger and he can't be walled as easily. I usually win those games from my experience.
Baton Pass:
I lead Weavile, I spam Ice Shard.. I could also try to taunt with Deoxys-D but they usually get White Herb on Ninjask so..
I also got Extreme Speed, so Dragonite can try to boost on the Protect and hit after, I must beware of this kind of playing though.. A good player can Substitute instead of Protect on the DD and get the upper hand.
It's not really a match-up I bother mind. I'm not saying it's not strong, it is, but it's not something I should over-adapt my team to.
Scizor Bullet Punch is a new strong asset now against them. Same goes for Breloom.
This seems to be a good match-up, Xatu needs to be lured and trapped by Weavile and everthing will be fine. It's up to me to "outplay" the enemy here. One thing for sure, usually it depends on if I can lay SR and manage to not let the enemy spin them. A lot of Sun teams run Forretress or Donphan. These two spinners can do absolutly nothing to Gengar. The issue will be the Venusaur. Before I had Starmie, now it's far harder to deal with this sweeper. If my Gengar sash is still up I can trade my Gengar for crucial damages and finish it with Weavile.
If my Gengar lost his sash, and if Venusaur had a free set-up turn, I am in troubles. But HO usually don't have plenty of ways to deal with this pokemon :\
Weavile does ~70% with Ice Shard on Venusaur, with some switching to play with the HP Fire and the SR/Spikes damage, it is stil highly manageable if I play it decently enough.
Now, since I got Dragonite, this match-up is even better for me. I have a security net given his resistances and his boosted Fire Punch. With Lum Berry I can kill Venusaur no matter what happens (I must care of the HP Ice variant, but with Multiscale I can take it, anyway all I need is some LO recoil damage to let Weavile end the job)
Rain Offense:
Rain is a tough thing. Keldeo rolls over them all, only opposing scarf Keldeo can be though, it's usually really easy for my Deoxys-D to lay entry hazards since they try to start Genesect then switch to Politoed while I'm putting my SR/Spikes.
It was not easy here to find a room for Terrakion, Dragonite got more chances to set-up and get some kills. Keldeo carries the team on his shoulders most of the time along with Dragonite. I need to scout for the Politoed set, since it's the weakest link, if he's choice or defensive, it gives me some opportunities to play with. Moreover Weavile lighten Keldeo role by being able to land some easy revenge kill on the genies/dragons.
I need to do a good trade with my Gengar since he won't do much damages under the Rain.
I'm more worried about the semi-stall Rain to be honest since it's really depending on Gengar ability to trade his life with annoying pokemons (like Jirachi >.<) after blocking the spinner.
Now with Scizor, I got some issues to hit Bulky Waters, but Bullet Punch after a SD will hit pretty hard.
Buuuuuuuuuut, I changed him for Breloom, this match up is ALLRIGHT now !
Sand Offense 1:
It's one of the match-up I prefer, because I played this type of teams alot, I have usually a good feeling at predicting them. They don't have much to contain Deoxys-D ability to lay hazards. Moreover they have issues taking the combination of Fighting/Ice moves from Weavile.
Keldeo crushs them quite hard also, Genesect has some possibilities to set up and can end the game fast this way supported by hazards. Now Scizor lose a lot of coverage in comparison of Genesect, but can hit crucial targets like Stoutland easily with no set-up.
Sand Offense 2:
Same goes as above, even better since Tyranitar is really easy to play with. They usually bring him to Deoxys-D and after the kill I just have to send Weavile . Weavile goes rampage mode along with Keldeo there.
Excepted if I'm outplayed badly, I should be able to get it.
DragMag:
I didn't meet alot of them... but I really wish I had. Weavile is the worst thing they could meet, he even kills Magnezone with Low Kick (I must scout to see if it's the scarfed version though). SR usually deals a nice chunk of damage to them. I usually laugh at them trying to set-up, knowing that I'll just have to revenge them with Weavile. Genesect can take a +1 Outrage from Dragonite, and set-up. The priorities will be very useful, but it's all about Weavile and Scarf Keldeo here, the other mates are only here to secure their way !
My own Dragonite can end the game if he manages to set-up.
Not really a match-up I'm afraid of.
Heavy Offense:
It's up to our Deoxys-D, mine got Magic Coat so usually I'm fine. My focus sash Gengar helps me alot here to kill the opposing Gengar in a 1v1. I'm fairly confident in my sweepers. This match-up can go either depending on the enemy team, but Weavile is a nice asset to the team given his speed and his priority.
Scizor helps here, the priorities will be crucial, and a bulky Scizor is always hard to kill.
Breloom now, is easier to kill, but the priorities hit stronger and he can't be walled as easily. I usually win those games from my experience.
Baton Pass:
I lead Weavile, I spam Ice Shard.. I could also try to taunt with Deoxys-D but they usually get White Herb on Ninjask so..
I also got Extreme Speed, so Dragonite can try to boost on the Protect and hit after, I must beware of this kind of playing though.. A good player can Substitute instead of Protect on the DD and get the upper hand.
It's not really a match-up I bother mind. I'm not saying it's not strong, it is, but it's not something I should over-adapt my team to.
Scizor Bullet Punch is a new strong asset now against them. Same goes for Breloom.
Defensive Threat List :
Now I got Breloom for this dude ! And EQ on Dragonite !
I hope this team will be used by some people, and I hope they will enjoy playing it at least as much as I enjoyed playing with the RMT in Smogon.
Considered changes :
The section to keep tabs on what people suggest to the team.
- Changing Keldeo move set : DONE *Thanks to DragonUser and Undisputed
- Optimize items/EVs (any pro tips would be good to hear o.o) : MOSTLY DONE
- Trying DD Dragonite > Terrakion as suggested by DragonUser ! DONE
- Trying CB Tyranitar > Weavile as suggested by Undisputed ! DENIED
- Trying to fit Focus Blast on Gengar as suggested by Undisputed ! ACCEPTED
- Jellicent > Gengar as suggested by Ganj4lf DENIED (did not fit the team's dynamic as well as Gengar)
- Changing Scizor to a more offensive version as suggested by GengarsNemesis, RaikouLover : DENIED
- Night Slash > Ice Punch as suggested by Tiffanyy : ACCEPTED
- Changing Deoxys-D item as suggested by SilentStorm : DONE
- Lucario > Scizor as suggested by Dwayne : DENIED FOR NOW (I think it would need a little shift of the team, but I don't know where)
- Sableye > Gengar as suggested by Letiez : DENIED
- Scarf Scizor as suggested by Leftiez : DENIED
- Lum Berry on Scizor as suggested by White Symphoni : ACCEPTED
- Go back to my old Keldeo's set as suggested by Haineskid712 : DENIED
Replays :
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent4562337 *Against HAIL by MJB (missclik by me turn 9 >.<)
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent4562703 *Against a Sand Offense by NIGGAZ IN PARIS (terrible play on the Starmie VS Stoutland part, I realised I had wrong EVs so I did almost throw the game after with Genesect)
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent4602897 *Against a HO/Deoxys-D/Gengar by Genescroto (a team pretty similar to what is suggested to me since it has Tyranitar>Weavile and Latias>Terrakion)
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent4603519 *Against a funny team by McLuvving -LOL- (He had a decent rating with a kinda gimmick team, he did some strange plays, I didnt realise the -Spe on Keldeo in the end :<)
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent4761675 *Against alkdjf, Dragonite and Weavile getting the job done.
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent4761989 *Against krapperz, a sun team where Gengar does his job, Dragonite goes rampage and Weavile is cleaning
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent4762169 *HERE IS THE GAME YOU "NEED" TO SEE ! Against a classic rain team by Quintessential, a really good game where each of my pokemons pulls their weight, he totally outplayed my Gengar though (and these scalds >.<)
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent4768962 *Against OJB, a really tough fight where I can safely say that Gengar won the game.
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent5234391 *Against Mini Me, the first replay where you can see Scizor, setting up on a Gliscor like np ;)
With Breloom :
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent7665197 *Against Done Already ?, a really close game, where from a situation that seems really complicated, my team can find a reliable path to the win. A good fight.
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent7665910 *Against Metro37 using a classic offense Sand, I get my Deoxys-D tricked in the start which is always annoying.
But for now, no moar trouble for you mister rater/viewer,
Team, last glance :
Oh no dude, I don't forget you, my devoted musician ! You know who you are ;)
*Importable, keep the nicks if you please ;)*
SHY GUY (Deoxys-Defense) @ Rocky Helmet
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Magic Coat
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes
BADASS SINCE GEN1 (Gengar) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 12 HP / 252 SAtk / 244 Spd
Timid Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Focus Blast
- Destiny Bond
UGLY PONY (Keldeo) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Hydro Pump
- Secret Sword
- Surf
I GOT NO ARMS (Breloom) @ Fighting Gem
Trait: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Spore
- Mach Punch
- Bullet Seed
- Rock Tomb
TROUBLEMAKER! (Weavile) @ Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 32 SDef / 224 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Night Slash
- Ice Shard
- Low Kick
- Pursuit
SWAGON SINCE GEN1 (Dragonite) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Multiscale
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- ExtremeSpeed
- Earthquake
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Magic Coat
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes
BADASS SINCE GEN1 (Gengar) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 12 HP / 252 SAtk / 244 Spd
Timid Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Focus Blast
- Destiny Bond
UGLY PONY (Keldeo) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Hydro Pump
- Secret Sword
- Surf
I GOT NO ARMS (Breloom) @ Fighting Gem
Trait: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Spore
- Mach Punch
- Bullet Seed
- Rock Tomb
TROUBLEMAKER! (Weavile) @ Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 32 SDef / 224 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Night Slash
- Ice Shard
- Low Kick
- Pursuit
SWAGON SINCE GEN1 (Dragonite) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Multiscale
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- ExtremeSpeed
- Earthquake
