Vanilluxe [QC 4.5/3] [GP 2/2]

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[Overview]

<p>Vanilluxe is your typical Ice-type: it has good stats overall, but it doesn't have the movepool to back them up. Though Autotomize is the main reason to use Vanilluxe, a lack of reliable recovery and a horrid defensive typing make it hard for Vanilluxe to get a Speed boost. Thus, despite its respectable bulk, Vanilluxe needs support in order to succeed. Additionally, its coverage options are sprinkled with little more than Ice-type moves, meaning that it is often walled. Finally, outside of Autotomize, Jynx does better than Vanilluxe as an offensive Ice-type. Sporting greater Speed, offensive presence, boosting moves, and the deadly Lovely Kiss, Jynx is much easier fit onto teams than our two-scoop friend.</p>

[SET]
name: Autotomize
move 1: Autotomize
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Hidden Power Ground
move 4: Flash Cannon
item: Life Orb / Icicle Plate
ability: Ice Body
nature: Modest
evs: 78 HP / 252 SpA / 180 Spd
ivs: 30 SpA / 30 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>The purpose of this set is to boost Vanilluxe's Speed with Autotomize and attempt a sweep. This set can handle a lot of offensive teams by KOing the opponent's frailer offensive Pokemon before they can secure a hit. While it may be difficult for Vanilluxe to find an opportunity to set up, if it is able to do so, it can truly wreak havoc for the opponent. Ice Beam is used on this set as Vanilluxe's best STAB. Hidden Power Ground provides the best super effective coverage alongside Ice Beam, hitting Steel- and Fire-type Pokemon harder than Ice Beam can, while Flash Cannon hits opposing Ice-types, such as Jynx and Piloswine. Finally, though it doesn't benefit Vanilluxe in NU due to the lack of weather inducers, Ice Body is the ability of choice for this set, as Weak Armor is excessive with Autotomize, and it makes Vanilluxe much easier to take out.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The Speed EVs on this set are used to beat +1 base 100 Speed Pokemon after Vanilluxe has secured its boost. The item choice is yours to make. Life Orb is generally the superior option, as without it, Vanilluxe is unable to OHKO Jynx or 2HKO Piloswine after Stealth Rock damage. However, if you prefer to enjoy your ice cream at a slower pace, you can use Icicle Plate for a recoil-free 20% boost to Ice Beam. This option is reasonable as well, as more often than not, you'll just be using Ice Beam. Sawk, a Pokemon able to OHKO common special walls, such as Lickilicky, Munchlax, and Audino, is a great partner for this set. Choice Scarf Pokemon with base Speed over 100, such as Rapidash and Tauros, can both give the set troubles. Alomomola serves as a full stop to these Pokemon and can pass large Wishes back to Vanilluxe if things like Stealth Rock and Life Orb recoil wear it down too much. Seismitoad can switch into most Fire-, Steel-, and Rock-type moves aimed at Vanilluxe and set up the Stealth Rock that Vanilluxe needs to secure KOs against Jynx and Piloswine. Similarly, Golurk is immune to Fighting-type attacks and boasts a resistance to Rock-type moves, while Vanilluxe can switch into Ice-type attacks aimed at it. Altaria plays a similar role: weak to Ice-type moves and resistant to Fire- and Fighting-type attacks. This type synergy makes these Pokemon fantastic partners for this set and can even give Vanilluxe opportunities to set up against Ice-type attacks from the opponent.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>As previously stated, Vanilluxe has a bad movepool, but it does have a few other options. First off, while removing Hidden Power Ground leaves Vanilluxe helpless against Steel-types, Hidden Power Grass can be used to defeat some key threats, such as Carracosta and Seismitoad. Magic Coat is another reasonable option that can bounce back status and phazing moves, though Vanilluxe should focus more on offensive coverage. Similarly, Taunt could be used to help Vanilluxe beat bulky walls that would otherwise have their way with this set. The issue with Taunt is that it doesn't help Vanilluxe accomplish its job much better than the listed set does. Toxic is an interesting choice that would allow Vanilluxe to beat many of the common walls that would otherwise be able to switch in with impunity. Frost Breath could be used over Ice Beam in order to beat out Pokemon that try to set up Calm Mind, but it's only useful in very niche situations, whereas Ice Beam has greater power, perfect accuracy, and a chance to freeze the opponent. Lastly, a mixed set with Ice Shard and Explosion takes full advantage of Vanilluxe's good base 95 Attack. The main issue with this idea is that it forces Vanilluxe to either lose some Speed EVs or split EVs between Special Attack and Attack, lowering its overall power. In the end, you're typically better off running a special attacking set.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>There are more checks and counters to Vanilluxe than there are flavors of Ben & Jerry's. Most Fighting-type Pokemon can cleanly OHKO it, though few can switch in. Specially defensive walls and tanks, such as Audino, Mantine, Regice, and Munchlax, all take a pittance from Vanilluxe and can stay in to support their team or fight back. Thick Fat Miltank also deserves a mention, as it resists Ice-type moves and strikes back for good damage with Body Slam. Metang also causes this particular set problems, as it is only 4HKOed by a Modest Life Orb-boosted Hidden Power Ground, while it can strike back with a super effective Meteor Mash. Finally, priority users, such as Mach Punch Gurdurr and Bullet Punch Metang, ignore the Speed boost that Autotomize provides while hitting Vanilluxe for great damage.<p>
[Overview]
  • pretty bad
  • misses hail in NU
  • awful movepool like most ice-types
  • good SpA
  • decent bulk, but poor typing still makes it difficult to set up
  • slow, but niche over Jynx in autotomize

[SET]
name: Autotomize
move 1: Autotomize
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Hidden Power Ground
move 4: Flash Cannon
item: Life Orb / Icicle Plate
ability: Ice Body
nature: Modest
evs: 78 HP / 252 SpA / 180 Spd
ivs: 30 SpA / 30 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Attempt to boost speed and cause havoc for offensive teams
  • May struggle to set up
  • Autotomize boosts its Speed, letting it beat fast/frail foes
  • Ice Beam wrecks
  • HP Ground hits Steel- and Fire-types
  • Flash Cannon hits Piloswine and Jynx
  • Ice Body>Weak Armor because Weak Armor is excessive w/ Autotomize and makes it easier to take down

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
  • Speed EVs to outspeed +1 base 100s after a boost and dumps the rest in HP and SpA.
  • Life Orb is needed to OHKO Jynx after Rocks and 2HKO Piloswine
  • Icicle Plate can be used if recoil is offputting, especially since you will mainly be spamming Ice Beam
  • Sawk beats special walls
  • Absolutely loves hazard support because good SpA but bad coverage makes it easier to wall
  • Seismitoad can take Fire-, Steel-, and Rock-type moves
  • Golurk can take Fighting- and Rock-type moves while Vanilluxe can take Ice moves
  • Altaria can take Fire- and Fighting-type moves while Vanilluxe can take Ice moves

[Other Options]
  • Hidden Power Grass
  • Magic Coat
  • Taunt
  • Toxic
  • Mixed set with Ice Shard and Explosion
  • Frost Breath for Calm Mind users

[Checks and Counters]
  • Regice
  • Thick Fat Miltank
  • Munchlax
  • Metang
  • Audino/Lickilicky
  • Fighting-types destroy but can't switch in
  • Priority users (Kangaskhan, Gurdurr) can revenge
 

Arkian

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Hi Treecko, I have a few suggestions for ya:

Overview:
  • Mention Glaceon next to Jynx, as it is another important Ice-type contender (maybe Rotom-F too...?).
  • Might want to expand on bulk a bit: it has decent bulk, but Ice typing sets it back.

Autotomize Set:
  • Slash Flash Cannon before Substitute as Vanilluxe will almost never find time to set a Sub and Autotomize, and Flash Cannon wast mentioned in Set Comments as well.
  • Ice Body>Weak Armor because Weak Armor is excessive w/ Autotomize and makes it easier to take down
  • Move that to AC.
  • Mention Seismitoad as a partner in AC, as it can come in on Fire-, Steel-, and Rock-types, threaten them out, and setup Stealth Rock. Vanilluxe can setup on Grass-types that trouble it (Tangela?).

Other Options:
  • Move HP Grass to AC and list why it's there (harder hit on Water-types, although Steel- and Fire-types wall it), although I understand if you keep it in OO as it doesn't really serve as much coverage as HP Ground.

Hope I helped :)
 

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I disagree with mentioning either Glaceon or Rotom-F next to Jynx because Glaceon isn't an "important contender" (it's solidly PU), and Rotom-F is neutral to Flash Cannon and it does jack shit to it.

252SpAtk Icicle Plate Vanilluxe (+SAtk) Flash Cannon vs 4HP/0SpDef Levitate Rotom (Neutral): 33% - 39% (81 - 96 HP). Guaranteed 3HKO. (this is Rotom-F, kalashnikov doesn't differentiate in the log)

In addition, I think that it should be noted that if you want the OHKO (after SR) on Jynx with Flash Cannon, then you need Life Orb.

252SpAtk Life Orb Vanilluxe (+SAtk) Flash Cannon vs 4HP/0SpDef Dry Skin Jynx (Neutral): 86% - 100% (234 - 274 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO. 5% chance to OHKO.

252SpAtk Icicle Plate Vanilluxe (+SAtk) Flash Cannon vs 4HP/0SpDef Dry Skin Jynx (Neutral): 66% - 77% (180 - 212 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.

You also need Life Orb to get the 2hko on Piloswine with Flash Cannon.

252SpAtk Icicle Plate Vanilluxe (+SAtk) Flash Cannon vs 252HP/0SpDef Eviolite Thick Fat Piloswine (Neutral): 42% - 50% (172 - 204 HP). Guaranteed 3HKO. 1% chance to 2HKO.

252SpAtk Life Orb Vanilluxe (+SAtk) Flash Cannon vs 252HP/0SpDef Eviolite Thick Fat Piloswine (Neutral): 54% - 65% (222 - 264 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.
 
Gotcha, I'll make Life Orb the primary slash, but I still like Icicle Plate as well.

[*]Might want to expand on bulk a bit: it has decent bulk, but Ice typing sets it back.
I'll make a small note of it, but I don't want to make a big deal out of it since its bulk is only really relevant to taking priority (which it's weak to Bullet and Mach Punch) and helping to set up.

Slash Flash Cannon before Substitute as Vanilluxe will almost never find time to set a Sub and Autotomize, and Flash Cannon wast mentioned in Set Comments as well.
Yeah that was my bad. I meant to cut Sub completely and AC mention it.

Mention Seismitoad as a partner in AC, as it can come in on Fire-, Steel-, and Rock-types, threaten them out, and setup Stealth Rock. Vanilluxe can setup on Grass-types that trouble it (Tangela?).
It can't really set up on most Grass-types so much (Tangela can Leech Seed on the switch, Serp can HP Fire/Rock, etc), but I still agree with mentioning Seismitoad. I'll add it.

Move HP Grass to AC and list why it's there (harder hit on Water-types, although Steel- and Fire-types wall it), although I understand if you keep it in OO as it doesn't really serve as much coverage as HP Ground.
HP Grass doesn't really do anything in terms of neutral coverage. It's super situational compared to the coverage that HP Ground provides, so I'd rather keep it in OO unless QC agrees.

Thanks for the feedback guys. This was kind of tough because Vanilluxe is just so bad.
 

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EVs are formatted incorrectly. It should be in a HP / Atk / Def / SpA / SpD / Spe format so for Vanilluxe it should be: 78 HP / 252 SpA / 180 Spe.

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Either way, ready for 3rd QC.
 

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2.5 + 1 = 3.5 not 3. You're asian, step it up flcl. n_n

You could look over this and remove some of the fluff, but as long as have sufficient information it's not too bad if you decide to keep some.

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[Overview]

<p>Vanilluxe is very much your typical Ice-type: it has overall good stats overall, but it doesn't have the movepool to back them up. While it has respectable bulk, it's hard to set up with it thanks to a lack of reliable recovery and a defensive typing that is among the worst in the game. Since one of the few reasons to use Vanilluxe is its access to Autotomize, a move that gives it a +2 Speed boost, having a difficult time setting up means it needs a good amount of support in order to succeed. Though Autotomize is the main reason to use Vanilluxe, lack of reliable recovery and a horrid defensive typing make it hard for Vanilluxe to get a speed boost. Thus, despite its respectable bulk, Vanilluxe needs support in order to succeed. Additionally, its coverage options are sprinkled with little more than Ice-type moves, meaning that it can be easy to wall is often walled. Finally, with the release of Jynx into the tier, Vanilluxe has lost its niche as an offensive Ice-type. Finally, outside of Autotomize, Jynx does better than Vanilluxe as an offensive Ice-type. (It seems like "release of Jynx into the tier" is inappropriate, as some people might be confused what this means. You could clarify but it would probably take a sentence to explain. Also, Vanilluxe clearly still has a niche in the NU tier, otherwise you wouldn't have written this analysis. So I changed the sentence also to avoid the "lost it's niche" part.) Sporting greater Speed, offensive presence, boosting moves, and the dealy deadly Lovely Kiss, Jynx is much easier fit onto teams in comparison to than our two-scooped (Maybe "two-scoop" instead?) friend.</p>

[SET]
name: Autotomize
move 1: Autotomize
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Hidden Power Ground
move 4: Flash Cannon
item: Life Orb / Icicle Plate
ability: Ice Body
nature: Modest
evs: 78 HP / 252 SpA / 180 Spd
ivs: 30 SpA / 30 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>The purpose of this set is to boost Vanilluxe's Speed with Autotomize and attempt a sweep. This set can handle a lot of offensive teams by KOing the opponent's frailer offensive Pokemon before they can secure a hit. While it may be difficult for Vanilluxe to find the an opportunity to set up, if it is able to do so, it can truly wreak havoc for the opponent. Ice Beam is used on this set as Vanilluxe's best STAB, (RC) retaining great power and perfect accuracy. (Ice Beam seems pretty self-explanatory. If you do keep this here, you need to change "retaining" to some other word because it doesn't really make sense in this case.) Hidden Power Ground provides the best super-effective coverage alongside Ice Beam, hitting Steel- and Fire-type Pokemon for harder than Ice Beam would does, while Flash Cannon hits opposing Ice-types, such as Jynx and Piloswine. Finally, though it doesn't benefit Vanilluxe in NU, Ice Body is the ability of choice for this set despite serving no inherent benefit for Vanilluxe; (AC), as Weak Armor is excessive with Autotomize, and it makes Vanilluxe much easier to take out.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The Speed EVs on this set are used to beat +1 base 100 Speed Pokemon at +1 after Vanilluxe has secured its boost. Additionally, the choice in item The item choice is yours to make. Life Orb is generally the superior option, as without it, Vanilluxe is unable to OHKO Jynx or 2HKO Piloswine after a switch into Stealth Rock. However, if you prefer to enjoy your ice cream at a slower pace, you can use Icicle Plate for a nice recoil-free 20% boost to Ice Beam. This option is reasonable as well, since more often than not, you'll just be using Ice Beam. Sawk, a Pokemon able to OHKO common special walls, such as Lickilicky, Munchlax, and Audino, is a great partner for this set. Choice Scarf Pokemon with higher than 100 base Speed over 100, such as Rapidash and Tauros, can both give the set troubles. Alomomola serves as a full stop to these Pokemon and can pass large Wishes back to Vanilluxe if things like Stealth Rock and Life Orb recoil wear it down too much. There are also a few great Pokemon who pair well defensively with Vanilluxe. (Seems superfluous.) Seismitoad can switch into most Fire-, Steel-, and Rock-type moves aimed at Vanilluxe and set up the Stealth Rock that Vanilluxe needs to secure KOs against Jynx and Piloswine. Similarly, Golurk is immune to Fighting-type attacks and boasts a resistance to Rock-type move moves, while Vanilluxe can switch into Ice-type attacks aimed at it. Altaria plays a similar role:, (AC) as it is weak to Ice-type moves and resistance to Fire- and Fighting-type attacks. This type synergy makes these Pokemon fantastic partners for this set and can even give Vanilluxe opportunities to set up against Ice-type attacks from the opponent.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>As previously stated, Vanilluxe has a fairly awful bad movepool, but there are still a few other options that could be explored it does have a few other options. First off, while it wouldn't help it break though Fire- and Steel-type Pokemon any better removing Hidden Power Ground leaves Vanilluxe helpless against Steel-types, Hidden Power Grass can be used to defeat some key threats, such as Carracosta and Seismitoad. Magic Coat is another reasonable option that can bounce back status and phasing moves, though Vanilluxe should be more focused focus on offensive coverage. Similarly, Taunt could be used to help Vanilluxe set up against beat bulky walls that would otherwise have their way with this set. ("Beat" seems more appropriate, as if Taunt doesn't let you beat the wall, who really cares?) The issue with this Taunt is that it doesn't really help it Vanilluxe accomplish its job much better than the listed set does. Toxic is an interesting choice for the set, allowing Vanilluxe to beat many of the common walls that would otherwise be able to switch in with impunity. Frost Breath could be used over Ice Beam in order to beat out Pokemon that try to set up Calm Mind against the set, but it's only useful in very niche situations, whereas Ice Beam has greater power and greater accuracy and has , (AC) perfect accuracy, and a chance to freeze the opponent. Lastly, a mixed set with Ice Shard and Explosion takes full advantage of its good base 95 Attack. The main issue with this idea is that it causes forces Vanilluxe to lose either lose some Speed EVs or split up EVs between Special Attack and Attack, causing a loss in lowering its overall power. In the end, you're typically better off running a special attacking set.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>There are more checks and counters to Vanilluxe than there are flavors of Ben & Jerry's. Most Fighting-type Pokemon can cleanly OHKO it, though few can switch in. Specially defensive walls and tanks, such as Audino, Mantine, Regice, and Munchlax, all take a pittance of damage from Vanilluxe and can stay in to support of their team or fight back against it. Thick Fat Miltank also deserves a mention, as it resists Ice-type moves and strikes back for good damage with Body Slam. Metang also causes this particular set problems, as it is only 4HKOed by a Modest, Life Orb boosted Hidden Power Ground, while it can strike back with a super effective Meteor Mash. Finally, priority users, such as Mach Punch Gurdurr and Bullet Punch Metang, ignore the Speed boost that Autotomize provides while hitting Vanilluxe for great damage.<p>


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REMOVE CHANGE COMMENTS

[Overview]

<p>Vanilluxe is your typical Ice-type: it has good stats overall, but it doesn't have the movepool to back them up. Though Autotomize is the main reason to use Vanilluxe, a lack of reliable recovery and a horrid defensive typing make it hard for Vanilluxe to get a Speed boost. Thus, despite its respectable bulk, Vanilluxe needs support in order to succeed. Additionally, its coverage options are sprinkled with little more than Ice-type moves, meaning that it is often walled. Finally, outside of Autotomize, Jynx does better than Vanilluxe as an offensive Ice-type. Sporting greater Speed, offensive presence, boosting moves, and the deadly Lovely Kiss, Jynx is much easier fit onto teams than our two-scoop friend.</p> This is like the best overview ever written

[SET]
name: Autotomize
move 1: Autotomize
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Hidden Power Ground
move 4: Flash Cannon
item: Life Orb / Icicle Plate
ability: Ice Body
nature: Modest
evs: 78 HP / 252 SpA / 180 Spd
ivs: 30 SpA / 30 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>The purpose of this set is to boost Vanilluxe's Speed with Autotomize and attempt a sweep. This set can handle a lot of offensive teams by KOing the opponent's frailer offensive Pokemon before they can secure a hit. While it may be difficult for Vanilluxe to find an opportunity to set up, if it is able to do so, it can truly wreak havoc for the opponent. Ice Beam is used on this set as Vanilluxe's best STAB. Hidden Power Ground provides the best super effective coverage alongside Ice Beam, hitting Steel- and Fire-type Pokemon harder than Ice Beam can, while Flash Cannon hits opposing Ice-types, such as Jynx and Piloswine. Finally, though it doesn't benefit Vanilluxe in NU due to the lack of weather inducers, Ice Body is the ability of choice for this set, as Weak Armor is excessive with Autotomize, and it makes Vanilluxe much easier to take out.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The Speed EVs on this set are used to beat +1 base 100 Speed Pokemon after Vanilluxe has secured its boost. The item choice is yours to make. Life Orb is generally the superior option, as without it, Vanilluxe is unable to OHKO Jynx or 2HKO Piloswine after Stealth Rock damage. However, if you prefer to enjoy your ice cream at a slower pace, you can use Icicle Plate for a recoil-free 20% boost to Ice Beam. This option is reasonable as well, since as more often than not, you'll just be using Ice Beam. Sawk, a Pokemon able to OHKO common special walls, such as Lickilicky, Munchlax, and Audino, is a great partner for this set. Choice Scarf Pokemon with base Speed over 100, such as Rapidash and Tauros, can both give the set troubles. Alomomola serves as a full stop to these Pokemon and can pass large Wishes back to Vanilluxe if things like Stealth Rock and Life Orb recoil wear it down too much. Seismitoad can switch into most Fire-, Steel-, and Rock-type moves aimed at Vanilluxe and set up the Stealth Rock that Vanilluxe needs to secure KOs against Jynx and Piloswine. Similarly, Golurk is immune to Fighting-type attacks and boasts a resistance to Rock-type moves, while Vanilluxe can switch into Ice-type attacks aimed at it. Altaria plays a similar role: weak to Ice-type moves and resistant to Fire- and Fighting-type attacks. This type synergy makes these Pokemon fantastic partners for this set and can even give Vanilluxe opportunities to set up against Ice-type attacks from the opponent.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>As previously stated, Vanilluxe has a bad movepool, but it does have a few other options. First off, while removing Hidden Power Ground leaves Vanilluxe helpless against Steel-types, Hidden Power Grass can be used to defeat some key threats, such as Carracosta and Seismitoad. Magic Coat is another reasonable option that can bounce back status and phazing moves, though Vanilluxe should focus more on offensive coverage. Similarly, Taunt could be used to help Vanilluxe beat bulky walls that would otherwise have their way with this set. The issue with Taunt is that it doesn't help Vanilluxe accomplish its job much better than the listed set does. Toxic is an interesting choice that would allow Vanilluxe to beat many of the common walls that would otherwise be able to switch in with impunity. Frost Breath could be used over Ice Beam in order to beat out Pokemon that try to set up Calm Mind against the set, but it's only useful in very niche situations, whereas Ice Beam has greater power, perfect accuracy, and a chance to freeze the opponent. Lastly, a mixed set with Ice Shard and Explosion takes full advantage of its [Overview]

<p>Vanilluxe is your typical Ice-type: it has good stats overall, but it doesn't have the movepool to back them up. Though Autotomize is the main reason to use Vanilluxe, lack of reliable recovery and a horrid defensive typing make it hard for Vanilluxe to get a speed boost. Thus, despite its respectable bulk, Vanilluxe needs support in order to succeed. Additionally, its coverage options are sprinkled with little more than Ice-type moves, meaning that it is often walled. Finally, outside of Autotomize, Jynx does better than Vanilluxe as an offensive Ice-type. Sporting greater Speed, offensive presence, boosting moves, and the deadly Lovely Kiss, Jynx is much easier fit onto teams than our two-scoop friend.</p>

[SET]
name: Autotomize
move 1: Autotomize
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Hidden Power Ground
move 4: Flash Cannon
item: Life Orb / Icicle Plate
ability: Ice Body
nature: Modest
evs: 78 HP / 252 SpA / 180 Spd
ivs: 30 SpA / 30 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>The purpose of this set is to boost Vanilluxe's Speed with Autotomize and attempt a sweep. This set can handle a lot of offensive teams by KOing the opponent's frailer offensive Pokemon before they can secure a hit. While it may be difficult for Vanilluxe to find an opportunity to set up, if it is able to do so, it can truly wreak havoc for the opponent. Ice Beam is used on this set as Vanilluxe's best STAB. Hidden Power Ground provides the best super-effective coverage alongside Ice Beam, hitting Steel- and Fire-type Pokemon harder than Ice Beam can, while Flash Cannon hits opposing Ice-types, such as Jynx and Piloswine. Finally, though it doesn't benefit Vanilluxe in NU due to the lack of weather inducers, Ice Body is the ability of choice for this set, as Weak Armor is excessive with Autotomize, and it makes Vanilluxe much easier to take out.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The Speed EVs on this set are used to beat +1 base 100 Speed Pokemon after Vanilluxe has secured its boost. The item choice is yours to make. Life Orb is generally the superior option, as without it, Vanilluxe is unable to OHKO Jynx or 2HKO Piloswine after Stealth Rock damage. However, if you prefer to enjoy your ice cream at a slower pace, you can use Icicle Plate for a recoil-free 20% boost to Ice Beam. This option is reasonable as well, since more often than not, you'll just be using Ice Beam. Sawk, a Pokemon able to OHKO common special walls, such as Lickilicky, Munchlax, and Audino, is a great partner for this set. Choice Scarf Pokemon with base Speed over 100, such as Rapidash and Tauros, can both give the set troubles. Alomomola serves as a full stop to these Pokemon and can pass large Wishes back to Vanilluxe if things like Stealth Rock and Life Orb recoil wear it down too much. Seismitoad can switch into most Fire-, Steel-, and Rock-type moves aimed at Vanilluxe and set up the Stealth Rock that Vanilluxe needs to secure KOs against Jynx and Piloswine. Similarly, Golurk is immune to Fighting-type attacks and boasts a resistance to Rock-type moves, while Vanilluxe can switch into Ice-type attacks aimed at it. Altaria plays a similar role: weak to Ice-type moves and resistance to Fire- and Fighting-type attacks. This type synergy makes these Pokemon fantastic partners for this set and can even give Vanilluxe opportunities to set up against Ice-type attacks from the opponent.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>As previously stated, Vanilluxe has a bad movepool, but it does have a few other options. First off, while removing Hidden Power Ground leaves Vanilluxe helpless against Steel-types, Hidden Power Grass can be used to defeat some key threats, such as Carracosta and Seismitoad. Magic Coat is another reasonable option that can bounce back status and phasing moves, though Vanilluxe should focus more on offensive coverage. Similarly, Taunt could be used to help Vanilluxe beat bulky walls that would otherwise have their way with this set. The issue with Taunt is that it doesn't help Vanilluxe accomplish its job much better than the listed set does. Toxic is an interesting choice that would allow Vanilluxe to beat many of the common walls that would otherwise be able to switch in with impunity. Frost Breath could be used over Ice Beam in order to beat out Pokemon that try to set up Calm Mind against the set, but it's only useful in very niche situations, whereas Ice Beam has greater power, perfect accuracy, and a chance to freeze the opponent. Lastly, a mixed set with Ice Shard and Explosion takes full advantage of its Vanilluxe's good base 95 Attack. The main issue with this idea is that it forces Vanilluxe to either lose some Speed EVs or split EVs between Special Attack and Attack, lowering its overall power. In the end, you're typically better off running a special attacking set.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>There are more checks and counters to Vanilluxe than there are flavors of Ben & Jerry's. Most Fighting-type Pokemon can cleanly OHKO it, though few can switch in. Specially defensive walls and tanks, such as Audino, Mantine, Regice, and Munchlax, all take a pittance from Vanilluxe and can stay in to support their team or fight back. Thick Fat Miltank also deserves a mention, as it resists Ice-type moves and strikes back for good damage with Body Slam. Metang also causes this particular set problems, as it is only 4HKOed by a Modest Life Orb-boosted Hidden Power Ground, while it can strike back with a super effective Meteor Mash. Finally, priority users, such as Mach Punch Gurdurr and Bullet Punch Metang, ignore the Speed boost that Autotomize provides while hitting Vanilluxe for great damage.<p>


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