Fishy
tits McGee (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)
the idea of people merely being honest with themselves translating to marriages that provide, protect, and procreate toward a more sustainable and 'happy' society is a really sad notion to me. i think it somewhat degrades people to their more animalistic roots, as if being honest with one another that "you don't have to be that attractive, as long as you provide for the family" or vice versa "you don't have to have a job, as long as you're going to take care of the kids full time" does not, and i will be bold enough to say SHOULD not be the building blocks for a stable nuclear family.
i think the greatest invention of human kind of language, and the various specialized ways of communication. any other animal communicates within its own species and with different species for base desires - "i want to fuck you. i want to eat you. i am a threat, stay away." etc. human beings have the ability to communicate an infinite number of different things to each other, such as knowledge, emotion, culture, ET CET TER A. i hate the idea of "being honest" also means squandering communication toward those more basic desires, as if everyone is truly masquerading with the finer details of their lives that they enjoy, and can forfeit those aspects for 'core' values that would provide for a more successful marriage/societal standing.
chou, i think everyone at this point knows that you value society as the end all be all for anything humanity-related. when it comes to love, i don't believe that passion is something that you can learn to live without. of course, every first love or ever first few months of a relationship is going to feel amazingly passionate, as everything is new, fresh, and exciting. that form of ecstasy wears off eventually, and i'm certainly not saying that when that happens, you should jump ship just to find that feeling again. there are people that do this, trying to relive the "honeymoon" stage over and over. i feel that the best relationships are those that stay connected long enough to evolve into different stages of love and compassion, and that no strong relation can ever be considered "one note" in terms of the range of emotional and intellectual love you have for someone else. (those two terms acting synonymously as subjective and objective love if that makes sense??)
HAVING SAID ALL THAT, i believe you can find a partner that you can share passionate love with for all time. most grandparents still married today are living crests for such love, and even senior citizens that have never been married still yearn for a passionate love, even if it's just to die while in such love. if you're going to be selfish about anything in your life, let it be for the person you would some day vow to spend the rest of your life with. one should never, ever settle for someone less than who they would want to spend the rest of their lives with. i think that's one of the most important things someone can ever admit to themselves. you can surely find happiness with a lot of different people - while soul mates may exist, i don't think that means that you cannot be truly happy with loads of different people - there are many flavors of love you can enjoy. if you should ever find someone considered to be your soul mate, you are truly lucky - but such a relationship cannot be cultivated. what a "soul mate" actually entails is incredibly subjective and romanticized as it is, but i suppose if you can imagine someone that complements you perfectly, you've got it.
quoting 500 days of summer: [some dude talking about his girlfriend] "She's better than my dream girl. She's real." d'aw!!
anyway, i've started rambling a bit. i think any love without passion is only second best. i think some people can learn to love whomever they are arranged to marry - but that doesn't mean that that person is the best love they can find. i don't believe that people solely want to find a partner to feel comfortable with - comfort is the enemy of passion. a marriage should not be routine. love should not be routine. if there is any honesty that society should embrace, it's that everyone wants to find a romance that lasts, as well as fundamentals that make for a solid relationship unit. growing up doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to experience butterflies.
edit: okay chou, i'm glad you're not for traditional arranged marriages, and that the decision to marry still belongs to those two involved. i still don't think that marriage is something that society should have as much an opinion on as the two involved, but i think your feelings for that are more culturally based, and so to each his own. i think that marriage in a nut shell is a public declaration that two people want to be together until death do they part, but past society being able to enjoy the ceremony and buzz of the new mr. and mrs., said marriage shouldn't affect anyone else but the husband and wife.
second edit: elaborating more for the sake of junior/all the singles ladies: you absolutely don't need a partner to enjoy your life! a partner should always be a complement, never a supplement. in the same vein, i think relationships/love are sort of timeless. as soon as you lose your virginity, or as soon as you fall madly in love, you'll learn a truth that almost seems too obvious in hind sight, and you'll feel silly ever thinking that these things were more important than anything else. in a way, they become a different sort of important - not so much imperative to your happiness, but they become things that have a value you've gleaned through experience that weighs more heavily than all the stories or movies you've ever seen. don't worry, just be happy!!! <3
i think the greatest invention of human kind of language, and the various specialized ways of communication. any other animal communicates within its own species and with different species for base desires - "i want to fuck you. i want to eat you. i am a threat, stay away." etc. human beings have the ability to communicate an infinite number of different things to each other, such as knowledge, emotion, culture, ET CET TER A. i hate the idea of "being honest" also means squandering communication toward those more basic desires, as if everyone is truly masquerading with the finer details of their lives that they enjoy, and can forfeit those aspects for 'core' values that would provide for a more successful marriage/societal standing.
chou, i think everyone at this point knows that you value society as the end all be all for anything humanity-related. when it comes to love, i don't believe that passion is something that you can learn to live without. of course, every first love or ever first few months of a relationship is going to feel amazingly passionate, as everything is new, fresh, and exciting. that form of ecstasy wears off eventually, and i'm certainly not saying that when that happens, you should jump ship just to find that feeling again. there are people that do this, trying to relive the "honeymoon" stage over and over. i feel that the best relationships are those that stay connected long enough to evolve into different stages of love and compassion, and that no strong relation can ever be considered "one note" in terms of the range of emotional and intellectual love you have for someone else. (those two terms acting synonymously as subjective and objective love if that makes sense??)
HAVING SAID ALL THAT, i believe you can find a partner that you can share passionate love with for all time. most grandparents still married today are living crests for such love, and even senior citizens that have never been married still yearn for a passionate love, even if it's just to die while in such love. if you're going to be selfish about anything in your life, let it be for the person you would some day vow to spend the rest of your life with. one should never, ever settle for someone less than who they would want to spend the rest of their lives with. i think that's one of the most important things someone can ever admit to themselves. you can surely find happiness with a lot of different people - while soul mates may exist, i don't think that means that you cannot be truly happy with loads of different people - there are many flavors of love you can enjoy. if you should ever find someone considered to be your soul mate, you are truly lucky - but such a relationship cannot be cultivated. what a "soul mate" actually entails is incredibly subjective and romanticized as it is, but i suppose if you can imagine someone that complements you perfectly, you've got it.
quoting 500 days of summer: [some dude talking about his girlfriend] "She's better than my dream girl. She's real." d'aw!!
anyway, i've started rambling a bit. i think any love without passion is only second best. i think some people can learn to love whomever they are arranged to marry - but that doesn't mean that that person is the best love they can find. i don't believe that people solely want to find a partner to feel comfortable with - comfort is the enemy of passion. a marriage should not be routine. love should not be routine. if there is any honesty that society should embrace, it's that everyone wants to find a romance that lasts, as well as fundamentals that make for a solid relationship unit. growing up doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to experience butterflies.
edit: okay chou, i'm glad you're not for traditional arranged marriages, and that the decision to marry still belongs to those two involved. i still don't think that marriage is something that society should have as much an opinion on as the two involved, but i think your feelings for that are more culturally based, and so to each his own. i think that marriage in a nut shell is a public declaration that two people want to be together until death do they part, but past society being able to enjoy the ceremony and buzz of the new mr. and mrs., said marriage shouldn't affect anyone else but the husband and wife.
second edit: elaborating more for the sake of junior/all the singles ladies: you absolutely don't need a partner to enjoy your life! a partner should always be a complement, never a supplement. in the same vein, i think relationships/love are sort of timeless. as soon as you lose your virginity, or as soon as you fall madly in love, you'll learn a truth that almost seems too obvious in hind sight, and you'll feel silly ever thinking that these things were more important than anything else. in a way, they become a different sort of important - not so much imperative to your happiness, but they become things that have a value you've gleaned through experience that weighs more heavily than all the stories or movies you've ever seen. don't worry, just be happy!!! <3