Six Move Battling XY

[aesf]

Approved by Arcticblast

Let's face it. Having four moves sucks. So why not have 6? Introducing (well, rehashing) Six Move Battling XY.

How do I play this metagame?
You can play it by individually challenging people and selecting, "custom game" as the tier.

How do I give my Pokemon 6 moves?
Say you had a Nidoking with earth power, flamethrower, thunderbolt, and ice beam, but you wanted sludge wave and shadow ball. Go to the import/export button near the teambuilder, and look at your pokemon's text, which should appear like this:

Nidoking (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Earth Power
- Flamethrower
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt

For sludge wave and shadow ball you would add:

- Sludge Wave
- Shadow Ball

below the fourth move.

Banlist:
Standard OU banlist
MAKE SURE TO USE LEGAL MOVES

Please post sets and comment about this tier (i.e. buffs, new checks, etc.).

Have fun people!

 

[Delibird is Amazing]

Greninja @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Extrasensory
- U-Turn
- Hidden Power [Fire]

4mss begone!

 

[Yayz]

So this is playable on Showdown, then? That's pretty cool.

First thing that comes to mind:

Manaphy @ Damp Rock
Ability: Hydration
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Tail Glow
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Energy Ball / Psychic
- Rain Dance
- Rest

Simple enough; a +3 Rain-boosted Surf wrecks pretty hard, with other moves for coverage. You can also avoid status with Hydration, and Rest keeps you healthy.

Other good 'mons would include Rotom-W, Venusaur-M, and pretty much anything whose role is to do damage, easing prediction by subbing on the switch.

 

[michaeloche]

Lots of mons with 4mss can really benefit from this. And some that don't can opt to hit more things super effectively. Here's some possible sets:

Dragonite @ Life Orb/Leftovers/Lum Berry
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Adamant/Jolly Nature
-Dragon Dance
-Roost
-Dragon Claw/Outrage
-Fire Punch
-Earthquake
-Extreme Speed

Now you can get boosting, recovery, priority, and coverage all on the same set. A bulky spread is an option as well, as is Substitute.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Calm Mind
-Scald
-Ice Beam
-Hidden Power [Grass]/[Electric]

CroCune with coverage? And a less chance to call Rest again while asleep? Sounds like fun!

Conkeldurr @ Assault Vest
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def (or whatever AV Conk's spread is)
Adamant Nature
-Drain Punch
-Mach Punch
-Knock Off
-Ice Punch
-Thunder Punch
-Stone Edge/Rock Tomb/Poison Jab

Now this looks scary. Conk gets his healing and priority, plus all sorts of coverage, plus the inherent difficulty to kill that comes with AV. Dare I say 6mss?

 

[Albacore]

This sounds awesome. Finally, 4MSS is no longer a thing!

Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Extremespeed
- Ice Punch
- Iron Tail
- Earthquake

Latios @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Defog
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- HP Fire
- Earthquake
- Thunderbolt

Yeah, this is probably not good for stall. Still, it can benefit from this a little :

Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Hasty Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Lava Plume
- Roar
- Protect
- Toxic
- Will-O-Wisp / Torment

 

[Pikachuun]

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Venusaur @ Venusaurite
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Def / 188 SDef
Sassy Nature | Calm Nature
- Synthesis
- Sludge Bomb
- Giga Drain
- Leech Seed
- Earthquake
- Sleep Powder

Slowbro @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunder Wave
- Toxic
- Ice Beam
- Slack Off
- Scald
- Psyshock

I can see stall becoming a thing :P

 

[aesf]

Great Feedback and sets thus far!

Anyways, time for some gimmicks:

Mew @ Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
- Swords Dance
- Iron Defense
- Amnesia
- Agility Rock Polish
- Nasty Plot
- Baton Pass

Please remember that this won't ever work in an actual match lol

Or smeargle:

Smeargle @ focus sash
Ability: Own Tempo
- Whatever you want
- Whatever you want
- Whatever you want
- Whatever you want
- Whatever you want
- Whatever you want

And Weedle:

Weedle @ Master Ball
Ability: Shield Dust
- Bug Bite
- Electroweb
- Poison Sting
- String Shot

Poor Weedle only gets 4 moves :(

 

[Delibird is Amazing]

Great Feedback and sets thus far!

Anyways, time for some gimmicks:

Mew @ Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
- Swords Dance
- Iron Defense
- Amnesia
- Agility
- Nasty Plot
- Baton Pass

Please remember that this won't ever work in an actual match lol

mew doesn't get agility. dat flame charge though.

 

[Aragorn the King]

mew doesn't get agility. dat flame charge though.

It learns Rock Polish :)

 

[Albacore]

The great thing about this metagame is that you can merge seperate sets, like this :

Aegislash @ Leftovers
Ability : Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
- King's Shield
- Shadow Ball
- Shadow Sneak
- Sacred Sword / Pursuit
- Substitute
- Toxic

 

[Talpr0ne]

Pinsir @ Pinsirite
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Def
Jolly nature
-Swords Dance
-Return
-Earthquake
-Quick Attack
-Knock Off
-X-Scissors

lol

 

[Snaquaza]

Pinsir @ Pinsirite
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Def
Jolly nature
-Swords Dance
-Return
-Earthquake
-Quick Attack
-Knock Off
-X-Scissors

lol

You should add in Close Combat somewhere

 

[canno]

Gogo Talonbird!


Talonflame @ Kelpsy Berry
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird / Bulk Up
- Natural Gift
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn / Bulk Up
- Acrobatics
- Roost

Kelpsy Berry turns Natural Gift into a 90 BP Fighting-type move, which lets it smack Heatran and TTar SE. Rindo Berry can be used instead to be a Grass-type move for Rotom-W. Acrobatics is there after you use your berry for a better STAB.

252+ Atk Talonflame Natural Gift (Kelpsy Berry) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 292-344 (72.2 - 85.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Talonflame Natural Gift (Kelpsy Berry) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 150-178 (38.8 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

 

[Ranger Mike]

Gogo Talonbird!


Talonflame @ Kelpsy Berry
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird / Bulk Up
- Natural Gift
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn / Bulk Up
- Acrobatics
- Roost

Kelpsy Berry turns Natural Gift into a 90 BP Fighting-type move, which lets it smack Heatran and TTar SE. Rindo Berry can be used instead to be a Grass-type move for Rotom-W. Acrobatics is there after you use your berry for a better STAB.

252+ Atk Talonflame Natural Gift (Kelpsy Berry) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 292-344 (72.2 - 85.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Talonflame Natural Gift (Kelpsy Berry) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 150-178 (38.8 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Don't you mean liechi berry? What type does kelpsy give

 

[canno]

Don't you mean liechi berry? What type does kelpsy give

Kelpsy says fighting on Bulbapedia, so I went with that.

 

[Ranger Mike]

Ah because liechi is grass so it's an eye for an eye or a rotom wash for a heatran if you will

 

[aesf]

Ah because liechi is grass so it's an eye for an eye or a rotom wash for a heatran if you will

Liechi is probably better for the +1 acrobatics when you get to low HP. Although if your team can't deal with heatran...

 

[noknuckles]

I've always felt that Crobat needed 6 moves. Unfortunately, when everyone else has 6 moves to play with, it won't really be as powerful.

Brave Bird/Defog/Roost/Taunt/U-Turn/Super Fang. I don't get how anyone can play Crobat with less than 6 moves. It seems like all of those moves, except maybe Super Fang, are absolutely required

I'm not sure how CroCune would play out. Less chance to pull Rest on a Sleep Talk, but also less chance to pull CM. I may just go 5 moves with CroCune (Ice Beam as the fifth)

Roserade has a nice move pool Double Spikes, Sleep Powder, Leaf Storm, HP Fire, other move of choice. Roserade's kinda funny though. With 4 moves, you wish you had more move slots, but you kinda just live with having only 4 moves. With 6 moves, you STILL wish you had more move slots

 

[Ranger Mike]

Togekiss is yet again a big threat, dazzling gleam, aura sphere/roost, nasty plot/heal bell, twave and air slash lol 6mss though.

 

[Leafshield]

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpDef
Sassy Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Pursuit
- Crunch
- Ice Beam
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide / Roar

The utilityyyyyy

 

[aVocado]

Crobat @ Black Sludge
252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe (can be utilized)
Jolly
Infiltrator
- Taunt
- Toxic
- Super Fang
- U-turn / Defog
- Brave Bird
- Roost

This is what Crobat has been crying for for YEARS.

Nidoking @ Life Orb
252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid / Modest
Sheer Force
- Sludge Wave
- Earth Power
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast

yessssssss

 

[Hidious]

Charizard @ Charizardite X
252 Att / 4 def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
Blaze

Dragon Dance
Flare Blitz
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Roost
Swords Dance / WoW

Garchomp @ Life Orb / Rocky Helmet / Lum berry / Yache Berry / Focus Sash
4 HP / 252 Att / 252 Spe
Jolly / Naive
Rough Skin

Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Outrage / Dragon Claw
Fire Fang / Fire Blast
Stone Edge
Swords Dance

Thundurus @ life orb
252 SpA / 4 def / 252 Spe
Timid
Prankster

Thunderbolt
HP ice
Nasty Plot
Agility
Taunt / Focus Blast
Thunder Wave

 

[Jaguar360]

Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant/Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Extremespeed
- Bullet Punch
- Crunch
- Ice Punch

Charizard @ Charizardite Y
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Fire Blast
- Solarbeam
- Roost
- Focus Blast
- Earthquake
- Flare Blitz/Dragon Pulse

Greninja @ Life Orb/Expert Belt
Ability: Protean
EVs: 88 Atk / 188 SpA / 252 Spe (Invest more in Sp. Atk if running Expert Belt)
Hasty Nature
- Hydro Pump/Waterfall
- U-turn
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Water Shuriken/Shadow Sneak/Hidden Power Fire/HP Grass
- Extrasensory/Grass Knot

Hawlucha @ Sitrus Berry/Liechi Berry/Power Herb
Ability: Unburden
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant/Jolly Nature
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Acrobatics
- High Jump Kick
- Rock Slide
- Sky Attack/Flying Press/U-turn/Roost

Blastoise @ Blastoisinite
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Rapid Spin/Dragon Pulse/Toxic
- Water Pulse/Scald/Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Aura Sphere
- Dragon Pulse/Flash Cannon/Toxic

And naturally, my offensive mindset can only think of sweepers and wallbreakers. At least I managed to find room for a bulky water lol.

 

[aVocado]

Jaguar360 why the hell did you slash Waterfall with Hydro Pump on Greninja? An Toxic/Dragon Pulse with Rapid Spin on Blastoise?

They should look like this:

Blastoise @ Blastoisinite
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Water Pulse / Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Aura Sphere
- Dragon Pulse

Greninja @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Extrasensory
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Hidden Power Grass / Fire
- umm.. Spikes?

 

[canno]

Hawlucha is interesting too - Sky Attack isn't so bad now that it has 6 moveslots.

Hawlucha @ Power Herb
Ability: Unburden
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Substitute / Encore / Rock Slide
- Swords Dance
- Sky Attack
- High Jump Kick
- Acrobatics
- Encore / Roost / Rock Slide

The Lati twins are also interesting.

Latias (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Defog
- Psyshock
- Roost
- Healing Wish
- Thunderbolt