EternalSnowman
DPL Champion
Heatran normally only runs Lava Plume or Earth Power for attacking moves, as common support sets will not have enough moveslots for anything else. There are 4 attack sets which are rarer, but normally choiced.
While I tend to agree with you, Pokemon like Aegislash and Mega Mawile are extremely popular on CAP teams these days and require very little effort to either set up on or straight up OHKO Clefable no matter what it does. Heatran/Mollux also tend to be a nightmare for Clefable to deal with, as it can't escape being Roared out or slammed by Sludge Bomb. Also, the value of an Aurumoth "counter" is questionable, as Illusion can often guarantee that you will NOT be sending in Clefable as it sets up and it still gets nearly 2HKO by Life Orb Psyshock. Most people deal with Aurumoth simply by checking it, which isn't all that hard to do. Clefable is a really nice hard stop to some of the big specially offensive threats in the tier, but does it have much utility beyond that? I'm not really sure, to be honest.On the subject of viability rankings, Clefable could probably use a bump. That thing is the bane of my CAP-existence. There is some crossover with Arghonaut (who has the benefit of being able to use Whirlwind), but the Fairy typing is really what makes it shine. Pre-Volkraken, at least, Fairies are monsters in the CAP tier, as a huge chunk of CAP-mons are weak to them, and Clefable is no exception. Combine that with the ability to shutdown the many set-up sweepers that run around, and being one of the best Aurumoth counters on the planet, and you've got at least an A- mon.
Voodoom has a heavy weakness to fairies, so it is much like Hydreigon. Right now, since Talonflame and Mega-Pinsir exist (Although not as much in CAP), as well as many fairies such as Azumarill, Togekiss and Mega-Mawile, it is easily shut down. The pokemon you can compare it the most to is Hydreigon, but Hydreigon can at least pull off Mixed Choice Scarf Sets, with access to U-Turn and Physical Moves such as Superpower to bypass some of its "Counters".voodoom should be b- at least he is a great way to deal with cyclohm and can work well with water types like argonaut to get a free special boost to further screw cyclohm and krillowatt as well. I use him as a lead to do damage and cause a switch then I switch to arghonaut hopefully draw out an electric type switch in to voodoom and strike back with a free boost.
Sylveon would much rater like Leftovers though.Actually if u use the correct item(pixie plate or specs) Sylveon hits harder than gardevoir, I've tested it.
Even tho gardevoir had psyshock it doesn't do enough damage to chanseys to bring up real threats to the staller, plus stoss does about 35-40% damage.
The advantage Garedvoir has in the Chansey matchup is Taunt. Even if Chansey goes straight for the SToss, the worst that happens is you severely cripple it. You have to remember, it is the special wall, and you are the special attacker. It wants to switch into you, and thanks to taunt, it struggles with that. Sure, if it is at nearly full health, it can KO before you can KO it. But if it is weakened, it will lose. And unlike against most special attackers, even if it wins, it is nearly dead, and likely taunted, which, depending on the opponent's team, could be even worse.Actually if u use the correct item(pixie plate or specs) Sylveon hits harder than gardevoir, I've tested it.
Even tho gardevoir had psyshock it doesn't do enough damage to chanseys to bring up real threats to the staller, plus stoss does about 35-40% damage.
Well, if u want to sweep with Sylveon, I would rather have my item.Sylveon would much rater like Leftovers though.
Problem is most people only use Lava Plume as an attack on their heatran, and trace gardevoir really does not care about that. Also Sylveon cant do "much" either to HeatranI would not say gardevoir beats heatran hard. Meh I still like Sylveon as my sweeper lol.
252+ SpA Heatran Flash Cannon vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Gardevoir: 222-264 (79.8 - 94.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
What does gardevoir do that stops heatran? I know lots of people run rocks roar, but I still see plenty of these hyper offensive sets in battle too.