| 41 | Zapdos | 5.322% |
It was RU for a time before it moved up, Escavalier can check it well, as can Assault Vest Slowking.| 66 | Reuniclus | 3.476% |
Pretty sure this would be quickbanned, as after a Dragon Dance it's damn near unstoppable. Defensive Granbull is pretty much the only good check, and even then it still gets 2HKOed by a Choice Band Iron Tail. -1 252 Atk Choice Band Mold Breaker Haxorus Iron Tail vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Granbull: 206-244 (53.7 - 63.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO| 67 | Haxorus | 3.405% |
I'm interested in seeing how this does, RU doesn't have a Special Dragon, although Flygon can run a Special set with its mighty base 80 Special Attack. Its average Speed and physical frailty will prevent it from being too overpowered in my opinion, but of course we'd have to wait and see.| 68 | Goodra | 3.276% |
I think this might have already been RU but either got banned or moved up on its own (don't quote me on that, I'm not 100% sure). Either way if it moved down it would be massively threatening, as Seed Flare's stat drops make it extremely difficult to reliably wall.| 69 | Shaymin | 3.274% |
This is BL2 anyway| 70 | Tornadus | 3.004% |
I'm not worried about this one. Most bulky Water types can stop it, and its pitiful Special Defence makes setting up tricky in the first place. Many players run Focus Sash, and of course that costs it valuable power.| 71 | Cloyster | 2.991% |
Oh well I didn't know thatIt was UU in Gen 5 without trouble - why would it be overpowered now?
Dude Milotic will never drop. It's too good for RU, it'd just get quickbannedIt's a decent late game cleaner, but honestly I prefer Quick Feet Ursaring and DD Fraxure - they're not as fast, but they have superior movepools and ways to boost their Attack.
RU - stop using Gurdurr. UU - stop using Milotic. OU - stop using Zapdos and Mew.
The thing is that Alomomola is in RU, not UU and Milotic has great bulk which puts pressure on a lot of teams due to Scald and Recover and also Leftovers. I think Milotic will be UU forever LOL. And the only reason Gurdurr is in RU is because of Mega Steelix and Tyrantrum. Those two are getting suspect tested now so if the off chance they both got banned. there won't be any reason to use Gurdurr and it would drop to NU but for now keep it in RUTo be honest, I'm not sure Ambipom would be that good in NU. It's faster than Tauros, but the bull has a better movepool and, thanks to Sheer Force, more power. It also has better bulk. No doubt it would be better than it is in RU though.
Milotic needs to drop, between Vaporeon and Alomomola there's little to no reason to use it. Vaporeon hits a bit harder and has Wish and Heal Bell to support its team; Alomomola has Regenerator to make it one of the best Wish passers you can use. Milotic just sits there throwing around Scalds, and quite frankly most of NU's bulky Water types can do that. It gets reliable recovery unlike Empoleon and Suicune, but other than that why would you bother?
OU - give UU back Zapdos, and give it Mew as well while you're at it. UU - give RU Miltotic and possibly Vaporeon. RU - give NU Gurdurr.
Reuniclus is actually BL2, not long before UU decided to snatch it up.It was RU for a time before it moved up, Escavalier can check it well, as can Assault Vest Slowking.
Milotic won't be at all threatening enough in RU to warrant a quickban (RU handled Slowking without too much trouble), plus Milotic was actually RU for a couple of months after XY RU's incpetion and it was completely fine. Also if you want to make consecutive comments, you can just edit your initial post.Dude Milotic will never drop. It's too good for RU, it'd just get quickbanned
Meowstic, Tornadus, Metagross, Sableye, and Ninetales are all used more than they should be, but still DUU. Also, if you look at the usage stats in the seasonal, which is mostly solid players, things like Deo-A would actually still be DUU so it's not as cut-and-dry to say what should be DOU / DUU and what shouldn't.Can we actually disassociate usage and tiering in doubles, it's actually disgusting how many terrible things are actually eligible to rise to DOU, and how many things are in DOU that are bad. This includes things like Scizor, Chandelure, Greninja, Dragonite, Tyranitar, Meowstic, Tornadus, Regular Metagross, Garchomp, Mawile-Mega, Whimsicott, Tornadus, Sableye, Ninetails, etc. When there are things like Deoxys-Attack, Mega-Metagross, Rotom-Heat, Mega-Charizard-X, Volcarona, and Salamence that are DUU but should be DOU because they are really good, but are forgotten by most of the ladder which don't have smogon accounts.
Here's the labels for what each column is for.Ummmm..........
In the OU usage stats for May.
| 80 | Hawlucha | 1.95808% | 82846 | 1.958% | 58234 | 1.841% |
| 81 | Galvantula | 1.93033% | 81672 | 1.930% | 69352 | 2.193% |
| 82 | Snorlax | 1.92040% | 81252 | 1.920% | 57890 | 1.830% |
| 83 | Celebi | 1.88935% | 79938 | 1.889% | 61451 | 1.943% |
| 84 | Forretress | 1.88824% | 79891 | 1.888% | 68420 | 2.163% |
| 85 | Nidoking | 1.86722% | 79002 | 1.867% | 59380 | 1.877% |
| 61 | Zapdos | 3.858% |
Tornadus is in BL2, so it'll never drop to RU| 66 | Reuniclus | 3.476% |
| 67 | Haxorus | 3.405% |
| 68 | Goodra | 3.276% |
| 69 | Shaymin | 3.274% |
| 70 | Tornadus | 3.004% |
| 71 | Cloyster | 2.991% |
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Reuniclus is good, and I'm surprised its usage is so low, but the UU metagame really isn't very kind to Goodra.Daaamn, we're gonna get a lot of drops for August. I'm surprised that not many people are using Goodra or Reuniclus a lot considering they're both very strong
I realised that Reuniclus got banned from RU before so it won't drop, neither will Tornadus or Shaymin, but Goodra, Cloyster and Haxorus will probably drop. But I bet Haxorus will get quickbannedReuniclus is good, and I'm surprised its usage is so low, but the UU metagame really isn't very kind to Goodra.
People realised it was crap in OUWow Quagsire's usage dropped quickly eh? What happened?