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CAP 1 Smogon's First "Create a Pokemon": Poll 7, part 3
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Exactly. What's it going to do, fall on the ground?
Ehh, movesets are so difficult. I haven't had time to look at all of them yet, so making the next poll (which will probably be done tomorrow) is going to be a real bitch. But I still like my idea. From what I understand though, Jibaku and Deck Knight have the right idea.
Anyway, these are going to be the options for what you don't want to see, to prevent this guy from being too over powered:
- Earthquake
- Earth Power
- Flamethrower
- Fire Punch
- Shock Wave
- Thunderpunch
- Stone Edge
- Close Combat
It looks good, and I can see EQ, both fire attacks, and Stone Edge going away. But then again, if Infernape can earthquake, why can't this guy?
My thoughts.
Steels say poo on you to Ice and Bug STABs. People are defending Skarmory and Gyarados but completely forget Forretress and Scizor.
I'd also like to say that I see Shock Wave being much more of a threat than Thunderpunch in the current metagame. Skarmory is a physical tank and Gyarados packs 172 EVs into Defense (as I recall). However, Skarmory has shit Sp. Defense and Gyarados, even with its 100 base, can't take much in the way of a special hit.
Already decided those are definitely not options.
Thanks Lawman :)
How are you going to work out which moves will be ommited? Is it going to be something like any move with X% of the vote + is out, or the highest 5, or something else?
Maybe in the poll there will be a clear percentage gap between the moves, which would make it easier to define a cut-off point.
How are you going to work out which moves will be ommited? Is it going to be something like any move with X% of the vote + is out, or the highest 5, or something else?
Maybe in the poll there will be a clear percentage gap between the moves, which would make it easier to define a cut-off point.
It shouldn't get any fire moves at all. Why would it?
I don't see why it should get earthquake. Mud-Bomb could work. The description works.
Besides two pure normal types, the only pokes that get Close Combat are Fighting types. Cross Chop is at least learned by Pure Fire, Electric and Water. I think Cross Chop would be a better choice.
It should also get Ice Shard.
I don't see why it should get earthquake. Mud-Bomb could work. The description works.
Besides two pure normal types, the only pokes that get Close Combat are Fighting types. Cross Chop is at least learned by Pure Fire, Electric and Water. I think Cross Chop would be a better choice.
It should also get Ice Shard.
The most common rocks are already either weak to Ice Beam/Blizzard or in TTar's case, Bug Buzz/X-Scissor, the most common Steel types are Skarmory, Bronzong, Foretress, and Steelix, the first two of which are immune to EQ, the second takes nearly no damage, and the last eats unSTABbed EQs for breakfast anyway. Regirock in Sandstorm gives this a mightly LOL with or without EQ. The only fire types really seen around are Infernape, Charizard, Magmortar, and Heatran. Heatran is usually scarfed, Magmortar would probably be KO'd if this had LO(unboosted wouldn't) but it would be suicide for this to switch in, Charizard is immune to EQ, and a slightly defensive ape might be able to take it. Arcanine has Intimidate and basically tells this to buzz off if it knows what's good for it.
That's why EQ was negotioable for me. EQ is only really scary when it's boosted or has STAB, and even though it theoretically counters its weaknesses with EQ, the actual case is that EQ would be less effectual that it's STAB Ice or Bug move.
Stone Edge is similar to EQ, in that Ice Beam takes out most of what Stone Edge would.
EQ and Stone Edge don't really offer that much more coverage over what has already been discussed. Thunderbolt on the other hand allows it to slaughter Skarmory and Bulky Waters with reckless abandon. Zap Cannon is a compromise I could live with I suppose.
Given the generally agreed upon movepool this already has 4 moveslot syndrome, so adding these physical options would simply make for a less predictable mixed set.
I do not think that this should get Thunderbolt, but rather Zap Cannon. With the prospects of Compound Eyes, I think it could be kind of neat. It does not need a fire attack, whatsoever. I *strongly* think that this should get Attack Order, not Megahorn. Attack Order for the win.
I updated the sprite I posted earlier to include some of the head details Cyzir did in his latest WIP sprites. I changed the eyes a bit to include the eyelid features of his drawing. The eyes in his WIP sprites look a little vacant. I also changed the arms to have a little more heft, but not be Metang clones. I like them better than the first. Overall, I tried to take out a lot of the "outline-ish" look of the sprite. That's characteristic of GSC sprites, as several people have mentioned the earlier post resembled. It still looks GSC-ish, but not as much.
I'm posting these with the hopes that it will help Cyzir and others make a better overall sprite, so I'm not too concerned about this particular sprite per se. After seeing Cyzir's WIP sprite, I think he's onto something very promising...
Old Sprite:
New Sprite:
I'm posting these with the hopes that it will help Cyzir and others make a better overall sprite, so I'm not too concerned about this particular sprite per se. After seeing Cyzir's WIP sprite, I think he's onto something very promising...
Old Sprite:
New Sprite:
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