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Traits include: Cloud Nine, Colour Change, Heavy Metal, Huge Power, Iron Fist, Levitate, Light Metal, Minus, Plus, Pure Power, Stench & Truant.

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Proposal 1:



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I personally don't believe that Levitate should remain a trait, which would allow us to clearly define why an ability is a trait. At any rate, the current pool of traits is a load of malarkey and needs fixing :\

If we decide that Levitate should not be a trait (which I would be inclined to agree with), then we will need to decide what happens to those pokemon who currently have Levitrait (the ones that don't get Levitate in-game). We could simply say that those pokemon would have Levitrait removed and they'd get the Levitate command instead, or we could let them keep Levitate but as an innate ability rather than a trait, or we could remove Levitrait from them and not give them the Levitate command, thus removing their levitation capabilities entirely.

I don't think anybody really disagrees that the current trait system thing is messed up, so I might as well argue the Levitate point.

I might be mistaken but I think the original purpose of transforming Levitate into a Trait was to give it some ability benefit as most of them only had one ability—Levitate. Another reason, though, is to facilitate the list of extra Pokemon that seem to possess Levitate in the cartridge games and anime yet don't due to the ability limit or GameFreak being a troll.

The only real differences between Innate and Trait for Levitate Pokemon, then, are the benefits in Skill Swap / Role Play and the Pokemon who get an extra ability in Levitate. I think these differences are worth it. It might seem like a slippery slope to be giving Pokemon who don't have Levitate Levitate, but it's really easy to objectify; you can say clearly that "this Pokemon is floating here!" but not "this Pokemon's body is made of an alloy and it is lightweight!"

Personally I would just keep Levitate as a trait, but a) Remove "Levitrait" from all Pokemon that do not have it in-game, & b) Abolish the Levitate command.

My issue comes down to consistency & discrimination of shit like Magnezone who does not get "Levitrait", despite it being naturally able to float, yet shit like Klinklang floats & gets said ability.

idk, I am not in an argumentative mood atm, but w/e.

I disagree with removing the Levitate command. Considering that it's a weaker version of Magnet Rise that is (or should be) learned by everything that has demonstrated levitating capabilities, meaning that its distribution is consistent and sensible, I don't really see what the argument for removing the command would be.

I think Levitate should be removed from things that don't have it in-game because reasons above (js that I feel this way). The Levitate command can stay though, since some Pokemon can kinda float, so by putting in more effort, they could probably float high enough that they could avoid seismic attacks. Either way, the Levitate command is not very game-breaking.

Concerning traits specifically, there is hardly anything that separates something that is innate from something that is a trait, and being allowed to have more than one ability to a One Ability battle is kinda dumb. The only purpose Traits serve is to give a mon an ability that nerfs it in a way that GF specifically intended (i.e. Truant, Slow Start, and Defeatist).

Proposing this is done as two votes:

1) Vote to remove traits from all bar levitate, y/n

THEN

2) Vote on the status of Levitate as a trait.

Since the first is lacking opposition and being held up by something it's not connected to enough =\

I support that, though if we remove trait status from Huge Power and Pure Power, can we adjust the BRTs of the affected mons so that they don't take those abilities into account? /totallynotbiasedbecauseofmedicham

Yeah, I agree, but removing the adjusted BRT's would be a pretty dumb though, but that is another discussion for another day. Any final opinions before this goes to a vote?