A bit of that was from memory, but what I didn't know I just found out by fooling around with Honko's damage calculator. I added a link to it in the last post I made in your RMT.
it can take an ice shard iirc, u-turn out, and into either scarftar or keldeo. rocks really cripple thundy, and ferro has an easy time setting spikes up against your team. couldnt hurt to try it :]