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  • In no way would I give you a warning for that post in the Deo-S thread. It's one of the most well thought out posts in that entire debate and I appreciate seeing some actual thought going into people's posts. You didn't list a bunch of unviable shit (like Accelgor) but instead listed standard, usable sets that can actually do something if your opponent isn't running Deoxys. The point of my post was to discourage people from posting tailor-made shit to beat a Pokemon on 12% of teams. I keep flip flopping on the position myself and even though I stated I am pro-uber, I'm really on the fence. Right now my opinions are swayed by who has the best reasoning since, unfortunately, I haven't had much time to actually play Pokemon.
    I like your posts in the Deo-S tiering discussion and I agree with them wholeheartedly. You're one of the few voices of reason in a sea of bitching and moaning. I've persoally run, and still run multiple Deo-S sets and through actual play testing and not asspull theroymonning like most of that thread, I've found it to be absolutely non game breaking.

    Most of the time with my hazards set I get up 1 to 2 layers and they get spun away later since I don't have the room to pack a spinblocker, which is no biggie. On the dual screens set, I set up screens and a good team usually has a way around it without my team decimating them.

    For the LO cleaner, there's nothing remarkable about it besides the speed lol. There's other pokemon that do it better imo. Terrakion comes to mind. :P Anyways sorry for the long ass VM.
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