Hugendugen
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Hugendugen

Noam Chompsky., Male, 20, from danger zone

is a Battle Server Administratoris a Super Moderatoris a Tiering Contributor
PS & Ubers Leader

lol what even is a status Feb 13, 2014

Hugendugen was last seen:
Apr 17, 2014 at 12:26 AM
    1. TerrorDave
      TerrorDave
      Im guessing you are Zarel, right?
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      2. TerrorDave
        TerrorDave
        IT does say its the ps leader
        Feb 21, 2014
      3. Darnell
        Darnell
        Are you actually being serious??? LOOOL
        Feb 21, 2014
      4. TerrorDave
        TerrorDave
        Yes. I did not know. Thanks for informing me that it wasnt.... (sarcasm)
        Feb 21, 2014
    2. Strokes fanboy
      Strokes fanboy
      Just complementing what BoomBoomRevenge said, please see http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-80347983. Leppa+recycle ban did not exclude every single possibility of forcing an endless battle, although the ban did make triggering them more complicated, while screwing some legit stalling strategies that could be used with the combo.
    3. Delibird is Amazing
      Delibird is Amazing
      banning leppa berry+recycle is retarded. If I use funbro but without heal pulse, that won't make the battle endless and the opponent will eventually die from struggle damage. leppa+recycle on it's own is not close to being banworthy whatsoever
    4. BoomBoomRevenge
      BoomBoomRevenge
      http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/endless-battle-clause.3498304/

      I would like that you read the thread and gave me a valid opinion (one that isn't "we ban it because it's not competitive" or "your PS ranking is shit so you don't have reason trololo" like some mods in the thread have done) about why is Leppa+Recycle and not Leppa+Recycle+Trap banned, please.
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      2. BoomBoomRevenge
        BoomBoomRevenge
        Yes, we were talking about it in the thread and I exposed one set that uses lepparecycle, but the thread got locked before we could further develop into the topic. Anyways wouldn't banning something because "it has no competitive uses anyways" imply that things like Bluk Berry should be banned as well?
        Jan 22, 2014
      3. Hugendugen
        Hugendugen
        If Bluk Berry could be used to force an endless battle or do something else that isn't in the spirit of the game, then yes. Obviously I'm not saying that all items or moves that don't have a competitive use should be banned.
        Jan 22, 2014
      4. BoomBoomRevenge
        BoomBoomRevenge
        But it's not the Leppa + Recycle the thing that forces an endless battle, but trapping + Leppa or trapping + Recycle (besides from the very specific scenario that you listed above) .
        Jan 22, 2014
    5. moshimoshiboomboomdesu
      moshimoshiboomboomdesu
      Hi, you should consider changing the endless battle clause to a more rational ban of recycle+leppa+trapping, this will prevent any indefinite stalling where the outcome is decided by who wants to give up first as any stalling player (who manages to set up an endless battle against one remaining pokemon) will always be in a position to win at a time of his/her choosing.
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      2. Worried
        Worried
        I also think that this ban should be reconsidered. Trapping + (recycle or harvest) + (healing or truant/entrainment/protect) is the core issue that leads to a (relatively) reliable endless battle. While it's true that one could pull this off without trapping by just waiting for the last pokemon to be alive, this is not something that can be reliably done with the ensemble banned.
        Jan 23, 2014
      3. Worried
        Worried
        I should think that the point of banning a set should be based on whether the set is inherently uncompetitive or broken. If a player manages to force an endless battle in a way that circumvent the specific ban, then that is less of a result of an uncompetitive set and more of a result of player misconduct, the latter of which is an issue to be resolved by moderation, rather than by moveset banning.
        Jan 23, 2014
      4. Worried
        Worried
        Here is an example of such a ban: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-80347983. I think that the combination of the specific moveset clause and making infinite stall a bannable offense should resolve the issue, while not disallowing legitimate uses of recycle+leppa.
        Jan 23, 2014
    6. Codel
      Codel
      i summon hugendugen the forbidden one
      1. Hugendugen
        Hugendugen
        are you sure you understand the consequences?
        Jan 18, 2014
      2. Codel
    7. sudan12
      sudan12
      can you rename my server (sorry for being too public)
      1. Hugendugen
        Hugendugen
        what was it called and what would you like it to be called?
        Jan 17, 2014
      2. sudan12
        sudan12
        Its called mist(asia) i would like it to be called Mist server
        Jan 24, 2014
      3. sudan12
        sudan12
        * The Mist server
        Jan 24, 2014
    8. Antar
      Antar
      Now I'm sad. :-(
      1. Hugendugen
        Hugendugen
        lol that genuinely was my first thought when I saw the thread. My point still stands tho!
        Jan 13, 2014
    9. Stallion
      Stallion
      Would you be willing to do a neknominate for my 5k?
      1. Hugendugen
        Hugendugen
        lol sure thing, when do you need it by?
        Jan 12, 2014
    10. DestinyUnknown
      DestinyUnknown
      [02:14] <Hugendugen> where is dunk?

      hello hola hallo ciao 「今日は」
    11. WaterBomb
      WaterBomb
      was that sarcasm?
    12. WayOfRhetoric
      WayOfRhetoric
      Happy New Year ! I hope you'll achieve what you planned for 2014 ; you deserve it ! XX
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      2. WayOfRhetoric
        WayOfRhetoric
        Haha, I love that movie ! Paris is great, I love it, but there are so many other places that are beautiful.
        Jan 2, 2014
      3. WayOfRhetoric
        WayOfRhetoric
        You should come visit us then ;-) !
        Jan 2, 2014
      4. Hugendugen
        Hugendugen
        Haha yeah, it made me want to live in Paris during the '20s! I'm gonna have to work hard to be able to afford it, I hear accommodation in Paris is expensive.
        Jan 2, 2014
    13. Oboro
      Oboro
      Can you please help me about something? I'm trying to RNG VGC Worlds 2013 Smeargle what method should I use? I've used the Wondercard and did my advances, but I couldn't get the desired Iv's. Is the RNG abuse method for this Fixed Attack and Speed Smeargel different?
      1. Hugendugen
        Hugendugen
        Hey I'm afraid that isnt my area of expertise, try checking out the Wifi section here on Smogon.
        Jan 2, 2014
    14. SirSlayerDude
      SirSlayerDude
      would just like to inform you of another Endless battle exploit http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokebankoubeta-71366413 this one is caused by entraining truant onto a pokemon then switching to a shadow tag pokemon said shadow tag pokemon then uses a combination of torment/taunt/protect to not die AND when struggle happens to make the enemy pokemon not take recoil damage and ofc leppa/recycle to never run out of PP
    15. Oglemi
      Oglemi
      nvm the pm, forgot about ubers leader 9.9
    16. TheTraininator
      TheTraininator
    17. OiawesomeDG
      OiawesomeDG
      I WENT TO THE DANGER ZONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
    18. CoolStoryBrobat
      CoolStoryBrobat
      In regards to Endless Battle Clause, I think you may wanna take a look at this: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oubeta-71827986

      I dunno if you did know or not, but apparently Exeggutor can cause this same ordeal to take place, and should be noted
    19. sirlgb
      sirlgb
      hi i know this isnt your job but could you help me find my secret ID for pokemon platinum? i dont know maybe you have an AR and you find it for me PLEASE IM DESPERATE!!!! Ill give you a shiny magneton!
      1. Hugendugen
        Hugendugen
        sorry I dont have platinum.
        Dec 23, 2013
      2. sirlgb
        sirlgb
        if you have an ar and any 4th gen game you could do it for me I understand though if you dont/dont care
        Dec 23, 2013
      3. Hugendugen
        Hugendugen
        I don't have an AR either :/
        Dec 23, 2013
    20. bookwyrm
      bookwyrm
      I'm new here, and I'm having technical trouble with my account. For some reason, I can't reply in threads or conversations; it wont let me type in the "reply box". Same thing for conversations: I can type in the "conversation title" box but not the actual message box. The only way I can communicate is through profile posts. I would appreciated it if you can help me out or direct me to someone who can help me. Thanks
    21. ΩDonut
      ΩDonut
      It's too bad nobody asked - the actual game automatically ends all battles after 1024 turns, because there's only so much room for data in the battle video.

      The game would then award the win to whoever had more Pokémon remaining.
      1. Hugendugen
        Hugendugen
        We'd actually considered it, not the turn limit, but the in game timer: http://pastebin.com/aUrnECAH

        I still don't think it's within the spirit of the game to use that as a win condition, so we decided to keep the clause regardless.
        Dec 21, 2013
    22. UltiMario
      UltiMario
      Decided to throw this out there since I noticed it: despite the only viable way to do this being Munchlax, you can use Fling + Leppa Berry + Pickup to create an infinite game, since Pickup can find items you've flung, similar to the other Fling + Recycle infinite game method.
    23. Ryin
      Ryin
      1. Ryin
        Ryin
        It also works with Dry Skin Jynx with Skill Swap. As you can only heal 25% HP with Absorb abilities it's necessary to have a healing item on your enemy and enough healing for yourself to heal Struggles. Even in the double Recycle turns the enemy can't die.
        Dec 20, 2013
      2. Hugendugen
        Hugendugen
        hmm true, but I suspect it's obscure enough that it'll never actually happen in a battle.
        Dec 20, 2013
    24. ArkWelder
      ArkWelder
      praise the lord funbro is dead
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      2. Morfent
        Morfent
        rip in peaces funbro 2013-2013 ;_;7
        Dec 18, 2013
      3. CEO of Showdown
        Dec 18, 2013
      4. Hugendugen
        Hugendugen
        thanks Ark, I'll pass it on.
        Dec 18, 2013
    25. Goddess Briyella
      Goddess Briyella
      Congrats on Ubers Leader ^_^
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      2. Goddess Briyella
        Goddess Briyella
        Tbh I'm not quite sure how all of this works, but macle says I'll be with #frogs and that I don't need to tryout because he knows i'm good :) I've been in their IRC chan lately... someone else may buy me I guess, but I think I stand a good chance of getting to play regardless ^_^
        Dec 18, 2013
      3. Hugendugen
        Hugendugen
        I'm sure you'll get play time, it'll be interesting to see who ends up buying you though. It's an auctions, so you never know!
        Dec 18, 2013
      4. Goddess Briyella
        Goddess Briyella
        True, we'll see haha ♥
        Dec 18, 2013
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    Birthday:
    May 17, 1993 (Age: 20)
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