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Pokemon Platinum - The definitive thread: Mach 3 (Competitive Discussion)
- Thread starter RBG
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Can Magnet Rise be Baton Passed? Jolteon switching in on Gyarados can Sub on the switch out, Magnet Rise, then pass to Heatran.
How can Luxray learn Magnet rise?
Magnet Rise is Electrolevitate in Japanese, so I guess it uses Electricity to float? I mean, Pichu learns Electrolevitate too (imagines Ash with a levitating Pikachu).
About Riolu learning Electrolevitate...uhh think about it as Lucario's Down Aerial in Brawl. It stalls him in midair
(stops offtopicness).
Let's not try to make sense of Pokemon's moves...
It's an electric type?
I think Magnet Rise will be given to pretty much every Electric and Steel type. That's all we have so far anyways.
Call me when a non-electric or steel type not named Mew and Arceus can learn it.
You can't be serious. Bellosom gets Seed Bomb too? Not fair, it already gets Leaf Blade. Ah well, not like Bella getting Seed Bomb makes Vileplume getting Seed Bomb any worse.
Wait, so you skipped the Snowpoint Move Tutor? Would he get anything worthwhile there? Wait, don't tell me, Synthesis?
Still, I could really work with Gastro Acid & Leech Seed. Luckily, I have a rare event Plume, so that could really F up some switch ins.
Wait, so you skipped the Snowpoint Move Tutor? Would he get anything worthwhile there? Wait, don't tell me, Synthesis?
Still, I could really work with Gastro Acid & Leech Seed. Luckily, I have a rare event Plume, so that could really F up some switch ins.
Destroying Snorlax. He also got some improvements in this game, so i guess he will see some use.
I was thinking the same. Most walls can't do shit with a choice item. And you can't get rid of it with rest like a status.
@ Jibaku: Zong can only switch in once.
I think at this point became very important to check if Heatran learn Magnet Rise...
I really hope no..or I think we'll have a new Uber :)
I really hope no..or I think we'll have a new Uber :)
It still has a Water and Fighting weakness. >.>
With all the new Superpower and Aqua Tail users running around, Magnet Rise Heatran won't be gamebreaking, let alone Uber. <.<
Someone has to check Rotom, Rotom wants Sucker Punch! Trick Azelfs will be fun to use, let alone Physical Versions of Azelfs with Ice Punch now =]
I need some confirmation about Bibarel. Supposedly it might be getting Curse, which means with Simple, it will get +2 Attack, +2 Defense, and -2 speed with one Curse...
Is this confirmed? Because that's awesome.
Is this confirmed? Because that's awesome.
checked a few more
Bronzong: Rollout, Iron Head, Ancientpower, Signal Beam, Zen Headbutt, Trick
Machamp: Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Fire Punch, Vacuum Wave, Mud-slap, Superpower
Magmortar: Mud-slap, Heat Wave, Fire Punch, ThunderPunch
Tyranitar: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Fury Cutter, Mud-slap, Superpower, Iron Head, Aqua Tail, Outrage, Ancientpower, Earth Power
Walrein: Mud-slap, Rollout, Iron Head, Aqua Tail, Signal Beam, Dive, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind
Masquerain: Mud-slap, Signal Beam, Twister, Icy Wind, Ominous Wind, Air Cutter
Weavile: Mud-slap, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Ice Punch, Knock Off
Hariyama: Mud-slap, Superpower, Iron Head, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Vacuum Wave, Knock Off
Exeggutor: Rollout, Ancientpower, Seed Bomb, Zen Headbutt
Salamence: Mud-slap, Rollout, Aqua Tail, Outrage, Twister, Heat Wave, Fury Cutter, Ominous Wind, Air Cutter, Zen Headbutt
Ludicolo: Mud-slap, Seed Bomb, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Dive, Icy Wind, Zen Headbutt
Skarmory: Mud-slap, Twister, Iron Defense, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Ominous Wind, Air Cutter
Shedinja: Mud-slap, Fury Cutter, Trick, Sucker Punch
Bronzong: Rollout, Iron Head, Ancientpower, Signal Beam, Zen Headbutt, Trick
Machamp: Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Fire Punch, Vacuum Wave, Mud-slap, Superpower
Magmortar: Mud-slap, Heat Wave, Fire Punch, ThunderPunch
Tyranitar: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Fury Cutter, Mud-slap, Superpower, Iron Head, Aqua Tail, Outrage, Ancientpower, Earth Power
Walrein: Mud-slap, Rollout, Iron Head, Aqua Tail, Signal Beam, Dive, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind
Masquerain: Mud-slap, Signal Beam, Twister, Icy Wind, Ominous Wind, Air Cutter
Weavile: Mud-slap, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Ice Punch, Knock Off
Hariyama: Mud-slap, Superpower, Iron Head, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Vacuum Wave, Knock Off
Exeggutor: Rollout, Ancientpower, Seed Bomb, Zen Headbutt
Salamence: Mud-slap, Rollout, Aqua Tail, Outrage, Twister, Heat Wave, Fury Cutter, Ominous Wind, Air Cutter, Zen Headbutt
Ludicolo: Mud-slap, Seed Bomb, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Dive, Icy Wind, Zen Headbutt
Skarmory: Mud-slap, Twister, Iron Defense, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Ominous Wind, Air Cutter
Shedinja: Mud-slap, Fury Cutter, Trick, Sucker Punch
Is it confirmed Azelf gets a Punch?
In which case:
Quick concepts ftw
BandZelf
Azelf @ Choice Band
Jolly
252 Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
Ice Punch (I believe someone said it got this)
Trick (see above)
Explosion
U-Turn
Anyone confirm/tried anything else?
EDIT @ ABOVE:
Ludicolo for OU, Stallrein to become even worse, poor old Magmortar...
CB Bronzong is now viable lol...no, seriously. Trick/GB/EQ/ZH (Trick CB onto a wall, get Lefties, wall OR use it to attack)
In which case:
Quick concepts ftw
BandZelf
Azelf @ Choice Band
Jolly
252 Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
Ice Punch (I believe someone said it got this)
Trick (see above)
Explosion
U-Turn
Anyone confirm/tried anything else?
EDIT @ ABOVE:
Ludicolo for OU, Stallrein to become even worse, poor old Magmortar...
CB Bronzong is now viable lol...no, seriously. Trick/GB/EQ/ZH (Trick CB onto a wall, get Lefties, wall OR use it to attack)
I probably should read that. >.<
I hope all the Ludicolo lovers can shut up now that he got dive -_-
Btw, thank goodness for no Super Power Mence! Nite still has a niche!
a useless niche though. superpower doesn't really hit anything that fire punch+earthquake+outrage can't. but I guess it could be useful on specsnite to hit blissey whereas specsmence can't hurt blissey.