Pokemon Platinum - The definitive thread: Mach 3 (Competitive Discussion)

[redshift71388]

More interestingly, can you switch it between its forms to get 1 rotom with say Blizzard / Overheat / Leaf Storm?

No, it says that Rotom will forget the move when you change forms.

 

[Jonathan]

You can't according to Serebii Rotom forgets its attack when it changes back to its base form.

http://www.serebii.net/platinum/rotom.shtml

 

[Naxte]

More interestingly, can you switch it between its forms to get 1 rotom with say Blizzard / Overheat / Leaf Storm?

No. As soon as you transform it, it will loose the move.

 

[Chou Toshio]

Bah. This is the first pokemon to forget moves on its own like that. Annoying. >.>

 

[sanjay120]

Gamefreak had a great idea with the Rotom forms but then completely blew it with the way they work.

Almost forgot, does Houndoom get Sucker Punch now?

Yep.

 

[dbolt]

Omg Ampharos gets Outrage. XDDD Its name does mean "electric dragon" in Japanese. :P Not that its useful...

Thanks for the tutors dbolt, but could someone check the Snowpoint tutor for Ampharos, Floatzel, and Rapidash? *hopes Amphy gets Magnet Rise*

just checked the Snowpoint tutor and Ampharos does get Magnet Rise. I'll check more stuff later.

 

[EvilMario]

Well, it's not QUITE as good as Tail Glow Ampharos I was hoping for, but it fits well on Amphy. Especially considering Ampharos already uses Substitute a lot. Not sure Focus Punch/Thunderbolt would provide great coverage, so we'll probably have to choose between Magnet Rise and Substitute. Oh well.

 

[sims796]

Will someone do a Snowpoint move Tutor for vileplume & Raichu please?

 

[wDro]

Well, it's not QUITE as good as Tail Glow Ampharos I was hoping for, but it fits well on Amphy. Especially considering Ampharos already uses Substitute a lot. Not sure Focus Punch/Thunderbolt would provide great coverage, so we'll probably have to choose between Magnet Rise and Substitute. Oh well.

there's always hope for new egg moves *runs before I get smacked by Anti*

 

[Alienjesus]

still wanting someone to check jumpluff, cherrim, kecleon and dunsparce on all fo the tutors....its nice knowing SOME of the moves, but i'd like to know them all for completion :)

 

[Raj]

Oooh new egg moves = )
If you don't mind, can someone please look up Arcanine? He seems to have been ignored (at least I didn't see him) and some cool shit could possibly come from him.

 

[Deck Knight]

Well here are some of the moves Octillery can learn:

Remoraid = Dive, Icy Wind, Snore, Swift, Mud Slap, Signal Beam, Gunk Shot, Seed Bomb, Bounce

EDIT: This was from around page 33.

One of the reasons I wanted Octillery checked was to see if it retained Bounce or if that was Remoraid only. if it's Remoraid only, it means we might need to spend some time on structurally different prevos to get full movepools.

Remoraid/Octillery serves as a good barometer for that.

 

[zukirin]

One of the reasons I wanted Octillery checked was to see if it retained Bounce or if that was Remoraid only. if it's Remoraid only, it means we might need to spend some time on structurally different prevos to get full movepools.

Remoraid/Octillery serves as a good barometer for that.

But isnt if if a preevo gets a tutor move, then the evolved form will get it?

Sorry if I am misunderstanding you somewhere, I am so sleepy lol

 

[Alienjesus]

yeah, but if we dont know if the prevo gets it then we might miss out on some cool stuff is what hes saying i think

 

[TwilightMystery]

so has anyone checked to see if nincada can learn endeavor yet?

 

[Deck Knight]

yeah, but if we dont know if the prevo gets it then we might miss out on some cool stuff is what hes saying i think

Bingo.

Magikarp gets Bounce, which is kind of cool for lol CB Para Karp.

But Gyarados might not get Bounce in its tutor moves, so in order to have Bounce Gyarados (if you found any value in it), you would have to catch/breed a Magikarp and teach it first.

Same thing with Remoraid/Octillery. Octy might not get Bounce as a tutor but could learn things like Iron Head and Zen Headbutt. If you wanted a Bouncing Octillery in-game, you'd need to teach Remoraid Bounce before evolving.

It's important for Shoddy if only for completeness/simulation sake. I doubt any of the power moves will be doled out to prevos, but it's possible.

 

[Dark-Ryu]

is there a possibility to clone in platinum without AR?

 

[Nokocchi]

Tail Glow = Firefly Light in Japan, so I doubt Amphy will get it anytime soon. That's also why the tail-less Manaphy gets it.

Seeing how some Pokemon who can't learn TMs get Move Tutor Moves in Platinum (Krickitot, Combee, Burmy, and Magikarp), has anyone checked out these guys?
-Caterpie/Metapod
-Weedle/Kakuna
-Wurmple/Cascoon/Silcoon
-Unown
-Wynaut/Wobbuffet

 

[redshift71388]

Well, it's not QUITE as good as Tail Glow Ampharos I was hoping for, but it fits well on Amphy.

You'd think that it could learn it, but in Japan the name is "Firefly Light" or something, so it doesn't fit as well as it sounds in English.

Edit: Beaten...

 

[Goodbar]

is there a possibility to clone in platinum without AR?

well for flashcart users, pokesav is out, so cloning is possible by saving/entering files

 

[Dark-Ryu]

and for the users that only have a ds and the game xD?

 

[Raikou]

Does Espeon get trick? I searched the thread and don't see it.

 

[sanjay120]

Pretty sure it does.

If the name is Firefly Light then Illumise should get it. Yes, female fireflies glow.

 

[Forsety]

Magnet Rise if Ampharos gets it will be a humongous boost to it, Amphy is already one of the bulkiest Pokemon in the entire game but its weakness to ground and lack of moves has always let it down.

 

[MetaNite]

By chance, does Heracross get Ice Punch?

Doesn't seem like much of a puncher, but it does get Close Combat...