So lately i've been testing quite a few leads, because I don't like suicide leads as it's basically SR and die. I've been using a ScarfMence as my lead for a couple weeks now, with Draco/Fireblast/Hydropump/HPGrass. The only one of the top 10 OU leads it can't beat out 10/10 times is Swampert if it survives HP Grass. It 2HKO's all other leads and OHKO's a few if they don't have Sash. Anyway, i just wanted to know what other people prefer as a lead, suicide, anti-lead, attacking, bulky?
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What's your favourite lead?
- Thread starter SevveN
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I liked bulky leads when I was into comp. Ofc when I got into making Spike teams Suicide lead was the best for me.
^^^^ The accuracy is pretty damn shaky for some of those moves.
I've been using Empoleon
Empoleon @ Shucca Berry
Torrent
52 Def/104 Atk/100 Spd/252 SpA
Rash
-Stealth Rock
-Surf
-Aqua Jet
-Grass Knot
Extremely effective against all top 10 leads. Metagross is capable of being annoying but oh well.
I'll probably try Hydro Pump over Surf sometime though.
I've been using Empoleon
Empoleon @ Shucca Berry
Torrent
52 Def/104 Atk/100 Spd/252 SpA
Rash
-Stealth Rock
-Surf
-Aqua Jet
-Grass Knot
Extremely effective against all top 10 leads. Metagross is capable of being annoying but oh well.
I'll probably try Hydro Pump over Surf sometime though.
In the past I've used a lot of bulky leads with SR like Shuckle*, Cloyster and Forretress. Although recently I've been enjoying a lead Crobat with Brave Bird, U-Turn, Taunt and Haze. Stops SR from pretty much everything except Aerodactyl when I lose the speed tie (there's a tie there right?). U-Turn hurts Azelf a lot and lets me scout and switch to more appropriate pokemon for whatever the situation. I'll switch to Magnezone if it's Jirachi, for example. U-Turn also takes an amusing 25% or so from Tyranitar.
Haze is for when he comes back later, ruining a cursers day or something like that. I've been enjoying it.
*He's just so cool!
Haze is for when he comes back later, ruining a cursers day or something like that. I've been enjoying it.
*He's just so cool!
Ive never used Shuckle personally, but dear god he makes an awesome lead and is very difficult to take down. And if you have Ttar, it makes it even harder! Swampert, Jirachi, and Clefable are all excellent leads for the many different support options they have. Swampert has good bulk all around and good typing and often gets SR up and takes out the opposing leads - he does the best against most of the commone leads today <3. Jirachi is good because of the ability to spread paralysis and flinch early on, letting you wear down your opponent. Clefable is just really annoying. Paralysis first turn, encore second, and Paralysis third turn or set up stealth rock. Absolutely dreadful.
The leads I like using are mainly dependent on what team I use. On my parastall team, I used trickscarf Jirachi, as it had Serene Grace Body Slam and could trick scarfs onto stuff that I couldn't really deal with.
On my offensive team I enjoy using Rotom-C, as a) it's a brilliant anti-lead that can cause major damage to the opponent and b) my team had no way of dealing with water pokémon.
On my bulky DDnite team I use Swampert, as it doesn't add to the weaknesses the team has and has access to Stealth Rock and is also a useful antilead.
On my offensive team I enjoy using Rotom-C, as a) it's a brilliant anti-lead that can cause major damage to the opponent and b) my team had no way of dealing with water pokémon.
On my bulky DDnite team I use Swampert, as it doesn't add to the weaknesses the team has and has access to Stealth Rock and is also a useful antilead.
I dislike jirachi leads because to many times I trick an opposing lead and magnezone just comes in and ruins my day. Don't know if its me playing badly and tricking way early or if I should just always uturn out.
Swampert and Azelf are probably my favourite leads. Swampert because its very bulky and grass attacks aren't too common on lead pokemon so its very reliable at getting sr up, can deal with many leads but also play a part later in the game. Azelf because its a nice fast lead at setting up sr, can also utilise taunt and unlike Aerodactyl hurt many of the common leads rather than just setting up sr and thats it.
Dusknoir @ Expert Belt
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/6 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Shadow Sneak
- Fire Punch
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
As of late, I have been using this build of Dusknoir as my lead. It often seems to catch my opponents by surprise and usually ends up taking out their lead at the bare minimum, though it actually tends to wreak quite a bit more havoc than I'd expect.
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/6 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Shadow Sneak
- Fire Punch
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
As of late, I have been using this build of Dusknoir as my lead. It often seems to catch my opponents by surprise and usually ends up taking out their lead at the bare minimum, though it actually tends to wreak quite a bit more havoc than I'd expect.
It's got to be azelf, taunt explosion, stealth rock and stab psychic + base 115 speed is all i need in a lead the high attack and special attack also help.
Before all this LeadGross shit entered the metagamr, Aerodactyl was by far my favorite lead. He outpaces every common lead (bar Ninjask,) gets SR down every time, and can create flinch hax with Rock Slide.
Now that Metagross has joined the lead game, I have enjoyed useing Heatran. He's not terribly fast, buy he is very powerful. I'm almost wondering if I should try him again.
ScarfRachi remains one of my Favorite leads. Iron Head to take out most suicide leads, Trick to screw up set-up pokemon, and provides a decent check for Salamence later in the game if I did not trick.
Right now I am using Azelf on most of my teams, simply because he gets SR down and can work as a semi anti lead with Fire Blast, Explosion, and Taunt.
Now that Metagross has joined the lead game, I have enjoyed useing Heatran. He's not terribly fast, buy he is very powerful. I'm almost wondering if I should try him again.
ScarfRachi remains one of my Favorite leads. Iron Head to take out most suicide leads, Trick to screw up set-up pokemon, and provides a decent check for Salamence later in the game if I did not trick.
Right now I am using Azelf on most of my teams, simply because he gets SR down and can work as a semi anti lead with Fire Blast, Explosion, and Taunt.
Scarf Yanmega with tinted lens. It's pretty hilarious when people try to set up stuff like DDGyara just to have it 3HKOed having done nothing. Non-sashes Azelf and Starmie leads do awfully against it too. And strangely, people always try to taunt it. I've even had a couple of encores fired at me rofl. People really don't expect scarf and tinted lens which imo is the best yanmega variant.
