Mr.E
unban me from Discord
We didn't have hardcore usage stats back in the day like we do now. In fact, we had no usage stats until Advance generation and even those have been lost to board purges and stuff. The old tiering was done more on perceived power than actual usage numbers, which we didn't have back in the prime of GSC (or RBY). Even BL, which is still a power-centric tier (UU's banlist) even as we moved to usage-based tiers, was not used as a holding ground for things broken in UU -- though they may have been broken had we given them a chance. BL is a hold for legendaries and pokémon that are otherwise considered to be viable for OU, regardless of how often they're actually used in OU.
The concept of "NU" doesn't exist. OU is the only serious metagame, so you're either OU or you're not (BL/UU). UU isn't a flourishing, fleshed-out metagame the way it is for DPP now. It's a sideshow that people sometimes do for fun to escape the monotony of OU, not something that people base their pokémon "careers" off. UU never truly existed as its own metagame, so there was no need for us to conjecture over the "UU of UU."
Blagh blagh blagh history lessons... At this point in time, we may well say that's wrong. We should re-do the tiers! However, the metagame of past generations simply aren't active enough any more to really get an accurate picture of a healthy metagame. There's not much that can be done to change things as they stand... other than, apparently, the opinion of havoc and his ability to access and make changes to the site. ;[
Also, free jumpluff and f u havoc thinking Raikou and Starmie are clearly better than Jolteon and Alakazam, respectively (especially the latter). >:o But yo, Borat bro, Gengar does pretty much outclass Misdreavus at everything. Misdreavus is only marginally better at exactly one thing -- Perish trapping -- and it's arguably less effective at that due to the sheer predictability. (i.e. Misdreavus is so incompetent at doing anything else, that's the only thing to expect when opponents see it.)
Hmm, one of my old UU teams... Meganium, Slowbro, Arcanine, Nidoking before Lovely Kiss, I recall perhaps Steelix as well... But oh, that last spot I simply cannot recall at all. :(
The concept of "NU" doesn't exist. OU is the only serious metagame, so you're either OU or you're not (BL/UU). UU isn't a flourishing, fleshed-out metagame the way it is for DPP now. It's a sideshow that people sometimes do for fun to escape the monotony of OU, not something that people base their pokémon "careers" off. UU never truly existed as its own metagame, so there was no need for us to conjecture over the "UU of UU."
Blagh blagh blagh history lessons... At this point in time, we may well say that's wrong. We should re-do the tiers! However, the metagame of past generations simply aren't active enough any more to really get an accurate picture of a healthy metagame. There's not much that can be done to change things as they stand... other than, apparently, the opinion of havoc and his ability to access and make changes to the site. ;[
Also, free jumpluff and f u havoc thinking Raikou and Starmie are clearly better than Jolteon and Alakazam, respectively (especially the latter). >:o But yo, Borat bro, Gengar does pretty much outclass Misdreavus at everything. Misdreavus is only marginally better at exactly one thing -- Perish trapping -- and it's arguably less effective at that due to the sheer predictability. (i.e. Misdreavus is so incompetent at doing anything else, that's the only thing to expect when opponents see it.)
Hmm, one of my old UU teams... Meganium, Slowbro, Arcanine, Nidoking before Lovely Kiss, I recall perhaps Steelix as well... But oh, that last spot I simply cannot recall at all. :(