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[Rukario]

I was actually referring to putting Thundurus/Eelektross on my Tailwind team as a counter to opposing genies. I was thinking of using Eelektross for this purpose, but I've been hearing from some people on Skarmbliss that Thundurus would be better for me, and would like a few more opinions if possible.

If so, I would still go with Thundurus. Run it with HP Ice for Landorus and Thundurus, and run Thunderbolt for Tornadus. The reason Thundurus is preferred over Eelektross is because Tailwind is too prevalent so never assume the opponent is not using it before you see their team. This way, it'll still be a speed tie between your genies and the opponent's genies if you and them have Tailwind up simultaneously.

 

[TTS]

If so, I would still go with Thundurus. Run it with HP Ice for Landorus and Thundurus, and run Thunderbolt for Tornadus. The reason Thundurus is preferred over Eelektross is because Tailwind is too prevalent so never assume the opponent is not using it before you see their team. This way, it'll still be a speed tie between your genies and the opponent's genies if you and them have Tailwind up simultaneously.

Neutral STAB thunderbolt does more than 2x SE HP Ice. (In this example, vs opposing Thunduruses)

95 * 1.5 = 142.5
70 * 2 = 140

 

[Elemt]

HP Ice Eelektross is only used for ground-types really and the 3 dragons. Thunderbolt and Flamethrower cover pretty much everything else.

 

[canihazpie]

OK, another question. I know I can use PO for team-testing, but is it also possible that the Battle Subway is effective for VGC training?

 

[JRank]

OK, another question. I know I can use PO for team-testing, but is it also possible that the Battle Subway is effective for VGC training?

It's not good if you're looking for other VGC teams, as the trainers use Pokemon from outside Unova. However, if you haven't played on a cart yet I find that the best way to get used to cart mechanics/animations and double battles in general is going a few rounds on the super double train.

 

[Misdreavus]

If so, I would still go with Thundurus. Run it with HP Ice for Landorus and Thundurus, and run Thunderbolt for Tornadus. The reason Thundurus is preferred over Eelektross is because Tailwind is too prevalent so never assume the opponent is not using it before you see their team. This way, it'll still be a speed tie between your genies and the opponent's genies if you and them have Tailwind up simultaneously.

Thanks for your reply. The fact that a speed tie is so likely is actually one of the reasons that I was thinking of Eelektross over Thundurus for my 6th; if my Thundurus loses the speed tie and gets damaged by an Electric Gem Thunderbolt, he takes a serious dent, but Eelektross is bulkier. For this reason, Eelektross would also be nicer against Trick Room; the rest of my team is Mienshao/Tornadus/Hydreigon/Conkeldurr/Chandelure, and although Chandy has Imprison, sometimes I can't stop them from killing Chandy and getting TR off. With Thundurus, 5 of my 6 Pokémon would be fast and frail (Conkeldurr being the exception, obviously), which means I am pretty much screwed if TR gets up.

 

[Alaka]

STAB Thunderbolt is more powerful than SE Hidden Power.

 

[Rukario]

Thanks for your reply. The fact that a speed tie is so likely is actually one of the reasons that I was thinking of Eelektross over Thundurus for my 6th; if my Thundurus loses the speed tie and gets damaged by an Electric Gem Thunderbolt, he takes a serious dent, but Eelektross is bulkier. For this reason, Eelektross would also be nicer against Trick Room; the rest of my team is Mienshao/Tornadus/Hydreigon/Conkeldurr/Chandelure, and although Chandy has Imprison, sometimes I can't stop them from killing Chandy and getting TR off. With Thundurus, 5 of my 6 Pokémon would be fast and frail (Conkeldurr being the exception, obviously), which means I am pretty much screwed if TR gets up.

Your right. If so be the case, go with Eelektross over Thundurus. Try testing with both on PO, and see which one you prefer.

 

[Misdreavus]

What EV spread for Conkeldurr do you all recommend? I was planning on the standard 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD, but someone on Skarmbliss suggested I invest a bit more in SpD since he is already very bulky physically. I see 152 HP / 252 Atk / 104 SpD mentioned in the analysis (gives as much bulk as possible while minimizing Flame Orb burn damage), and cosmicexplorer even suggested 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SpD, saying he thought it was the best.

FYI, my moveset is Drain Punch / Mach Punch / Rock Slide / Detect (with Flame Orb for the item, Guts for the ability, and Adamant for the nature).

 

[Elemt]

Well, I think SpD would be smart. It would allow you to survive Psychics from Musharna. Conkeldurr dies 100% of the time from a Jolly Tornadus Acrobatics with 252HP/252Atk/4SpD so sacrificing some HP to put into SpD seems very viable since its going to kill him regardless.

 

[samgei]

Is telepathy allowed on a musharna? You find it in dreamyard in game so i was just wondering?

 

[Showsni]

Yes, it's allowed.

 

[samgei]

Yes, it's allowed.

Right so are dreamworld abilities alowed? or is it just the unreleased ones?

 

[Hoyle]

The only hidden abilities allowed are Telepathy Musharna and Zen Mode Darmanitan as they're available in game. All others are banned as they're unreleased.

 

[elitefourabby]

How early should I get to the DC tournament? Junior/Senior starts wicked early in the morning, but Master's registration doesn't start until 1. I wanted to check out the early tournament before the registration, but obviously if the lines are going to be insane I won't.

I only live like twenty minutes away from Chantilly, so time or distance isn't really an issue for me.

Also, more noobish questions- do they usually have anything food/merch-related to buy? Or am I on my own for lunch?

Thanks in advance! :)

 

[pikabuddy]

If me and my friend walk into Masters with two same Pokemon RNG'd on the exact date, time, and PID frame, could we might as well be walking in with clones?

 

[TrainerRed]

Will I be able to get my game hack checked before I enter? I'm really paranoid about small cheats, like max BP or fast hatch.

 

[Roie]

is indianapolis invite-only or can anyone compete?

 

[Sixonesix]

Will I be able to get my game hack checked before I enter? I'm really paranoid about small cheats, like max BP or fast hatch.

Don't count on it.

is indianapolis invite-only or can anyone compete?

The national championships are invite-only, but the last chance qualifier is open to anyone (except people who have invitations already).

 

[Roie]

The national championships are invite-only, but the last chance qualifier is open to anyone (except people who have invitations already).

Ah I ask because I am midwest player and Indianapolis is the only location I'm able to get to reasonably. I guess I won't compete this year

 

[Firestorm]

Ah I ask because I am midwest player and Indianapolis is the only location I'm able to get to reasonably. I guess I won't compete this year

The Last Chance Qualifier happens on Friday. The Nationals are on Saturday and Sunday. You can compete in the LCQ on Friday.

 

[Roie]

Ah thank you, sorry I misunderstood

 

[lol95]

People who have been, it is the battle box that you put your team into, isn't it?

 

[mattj]

People who have been, it is the battle box that you put your team into, isn't it?

yes

and I love you for your username

 

[lol95]

yes

and I love you for your username

Why is my user loved by you? xD