Rotom-S (Analysis)

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[Overview]

<p>Well, this is perhaps one of GameFreak's greatest mistakes, and it has caused Rotom-S to become a laughing stock for all competitive Pokemon players. A Flying-type... with Levitate. Aside from Rotom-S's obvious flaws
(a completely wasted ability anyone?), it is not actually that bad when equipped with a Choice Scarf, and it can take on a the role of a Zapdos with an interesting STAB move in Air Slash. Rotom-S can act as both a an effective revenge killer, or it can also – with some success – utilize a Choice Specs to deal out some respectable damage. Rotom-S's main downfall, though, is that it is almost completely outclassed by its brothers – Rotom-H, Rotom-F, Rotom-C, and arguably regular Rotom, all of which have better secondary STAB moves to work with. Overall, if you're using a Choice set, or, if you're feeling crazy and seriously want to abuse a 16x Ground immunity when Baton Passed Magnet Rise and when holding an Air Balloon, Rotom-S will serve you well.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice
move 1: Air Slash
move 2: Volt Switch / Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Grass
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Scarf / Choice Specs
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is the only set that Rotom-S can use effectively that isn't completely outclassed by any of the other Rotom Appliances. With a Choice Scarf around its neck, Rotom-S is able to outspeed various offensive Pokemon, including, but not limited to
, Azelf, Mismagius, and Victini, and proceed to finish them off with Air Slash or Volt Switch. This set is also a great scout, although Rotom-C is probably better at doing this specific task, as it can scare away Ground-types with its STAB Leaf Storm. Rotom-S can only rely on a meager Air Slash, which means Ground-types can switch in with little risk. For this reason, Hidden Power Grass is an excellent auxiliary attack, and Rotom-S can act as a good lure to Pokemon such as Rhyperior and Donphan; it is a sure 2HKO on Rhyperior with a Choice Specs, and an easy 2HKO on Donphan, even with the Scarf.</p>

<p>The last move on the set, Trick, is used for taking out
any would-be counter. Rotom-S can effectively lure out and KO bulky Ground-types, and Trick is able to destroy another potential counter, such as Chansey, Deoxys-D, or Celebi. After this, Rotom-S's teammates should be able to take advantage of the situation, and prepare for a sweep. For example, with Rhyperior orDonphan removed, and Chansey Tricked, Houndoom will have a much easier time sweeping, as its main counters will have been removed.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>There isn't much else to say about this set; it does exactly what it says on the tin. You can choose to alter it slightly, though. Thunderbolt can be chosen over Volt Switch, as it does grant extra power, which helps when revenge killing Pokemon such as Azelf, or causing more damage when using a Choice Scarf. Volt Switch is preferred, though, as it tends to lure in Ground-types more, as nobody wants to let Rotom-S bring in a Pokemon for free. Rotom-S can then proceed to do great damage with Hidden Power Grass. Talking of Hidden Power, many other variants can be used, with Hidden Power Ice being one of the best choices. Unfortunately, Hidden Power Ice does not hit Gastrodon and Quaqsire
super effectively, both of which are dead ends for Rotom-S, which is why Hidden Power Grass is the preferred option. Pain Split can be quite effective, and Rotom-S will almost always be fully recovered if Chansey switches into it, which is quite a common occurrence. Finally, Rotom-S can at times make use of a status move, but Trick is usually just as, if not more so, crippling.</p>

<p>Teammates for Rotom-S include ones that can work well once Ground-types are removed, as stated before. Houndoom is exceptionally good with the absence of Rhyperior, and it also appreciates Chansey being Tricked. Victini is much in the same boat, along with Magmortar; all Fire-types appreciate Rotom-S's help. Ground-types, ironically, are good teammates for Rotom-S
too, since they can switch in on the Rock-type attacks that are so commonly directed at it. Donphan is perhaps the best example, as it can beat Rhyperior and such without difficulty, and it also has access to Rapid Spin, which is a major boost for Rotom-S. Grass-types can give specially defensive variants of Rhyperior and Donphan a hard time, since Hidden Power Grass does not do enough to them, unless Rotom-S is using Choice Specs. Shaymin and Celebi can switch in all day long against the aforementioned Pokemon, and they can launch off STAB Seed Flares and Leaf Storms, respectively.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>In terms of other options, Rotom-S does not have much to boast. A paraflinch set, with Pain Split, Air Slash, Thunder Wave
, and Thunderbolt could possibly be effective, although it is walled hard by Ground-types. Rotom-S could also use a SubCharge set, as Air Slash has no negative effects, unlike the poor accuracy of Blizzard and the crippling Special Attack reduction of Leaf Storm and Overheat. Toxic can be used on any set, as it will cripple any common switch-in to Rotom-S. Finally, a defensive set could be effective, but Zapdos does this better, thanks to its better defenses, access to Roost, and the ability to use moves like Heat Wave to deal with threats such as Escavalier.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Rotom-S is truly hampered by Ground-types, but they must watch out for Hidden Power Grass. Rhyperior is the best option, as it can proceed to smash Rotom-S with Stone Edge. Flygon is another effective counter, as it is neutral to Hidden Power Grass, and it can scout out incoming switches with U-turn. It must beware of Choice Specs Air Slashes, though. Pokemon that boast huge Special Defense stats, such as Chansey and Deoxys-D, can wall Rotom-S without difficulty, although they must beware of Trick. Finally, beware of Air Slash – it always seems to flinch at the worst times...</p>
 

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i must say air balloon is the prefered item for every set.

but onto real points, choice sets obviously work. parafusion with flinch could work (confuse ray and twave w/ air slash). subcharge set?

counters include rhyperior, chansey, dusclops (all assuming they have trick)
 
choice sets are outclassed by almost every other rotom form. Parafusion should be the only set, maybe subcharge since air slash has no drawbacks. the only reason it would be good with choice is trick. thats it.
 
Make note that it's an excellent choice to Baton Pass Magnet Rise to.

Anyway, I think we can all agree that the only good set is ParaFusion with flinch. Rotom-S could actually do this very well, I think, since it has such a great defensive typing. Maybe a bulky set with Will-O-Wisp? It's typing is really good, despite it's trolly ability.
 

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make sure to always make rotom not outclassed by Zapdos.

AKA use Trick, Reflect, Pain Split, or Will-o-wisp. Go crazy. I'm not positive that parafusion is all that great though (it's kind of laughed at by Rhyperior).
 
Yes, but the thing is that when opponents predict Rotom-S, they go into Chansey, which means Rotom-S can setup on it without any problems. Rhyperior is a counter to every. single. set. remember to mention that. Rotom-S can't touch it unless it ran HP Water, but still it wouldn't die in sandstorm.
 

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parafusion ?_?

the only set i can see this thing viably running is specs/scarf. it has a niche over something like specs zapdos because air slash > hp flying lets it run two stabs + hp ice or grass or water or something. a set of air slash/tbolt/hp grass/trick would definitely give it some advantages over specs zapdos that would definitely make it worth using.

but seriously....parafusion ?? just because something has a pretty terrible niche doesn't mean it has to be shoved into that niche and that niche only.
 
Actually, Levitate does help Rotom-S when under the effects of Iron Ball, Knock Down or Gravity. It doesn't get a Ground weakness but becomes neutral to it. Might be worth mentioning.

I agree with why one should run a choice set but I think paraflinchfusion is still viable and deserves a set. This isn't my decision though.
 
Actually, Levitate does help Rotom-S when under the effects of Iron Ball, Knock Down or Gravity. It doesn't get a Ground weakness but becomes neutral to it. Might be worth mentioning.

I agree with why one should run a choice set but I think paraflinchfusion is still viable and deserves a set. This isn't my decision though.
How does it get neutral to Ground-type attacks lol. Flying doesn't resist Ground, you know.
 
How does it get neutral to Ground-type attacks lol. Flying doesn't resist Ground, you know.
It just does so don't question and accept it. Here's a video proving such (skip to 2:00).

Speaking of immunity, Trick with a Ring Target deserves a mention as it rids of Rotom-S's flying resistance due to its typing but is still resistant due to Levitate (which Ring Target doesn't affect).
 

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parafusion ?_?

the only set i can see this thing viably running is specs/scarf. it has a niche over something like specs zapdos because air slash > hp flying lets it run two stabs + hp ice or grass or water or something. a set of air slash/tbolt/hp grass/trick would definitely give it some advantages over specs zapdos that would definitely make it worth using.

but seriously....parafusion ?? just because something has a pretty terrible niche doesn't mean it has to be shoved into that niche and that niche only.
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This thing is begging for more options. I think you should mention Double screens and Pain Split, it's not such a terrible check to Fighters. Zapdos only gets Light Screen.
 

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[Overview]

<p>Well, this is perhaps one of GameFreak's greatest mistakes, and it has caused Rotom-S to become a laughing stock for all competitive Pokemon players. A Flying-type... with Levitate. Aside from the obvious flaws in Rotom-S (a completely wasted ability anyone?) it is not actually that bad when equipped with a Choice Scarf, and it can take on the role of a Zapdos with an interesting STAB move in Air Slash. Rotom-S can act as both a an effective revenge killer, or it can also – with some success – utilize a Choice Specs to deal out some respectable damage. Rotom-S's main downfall, though, is that it is almost completely outclassed by its brothers – Rotom-H, Rotom-F, and Rotom-C, and arguably regular Rotom, all of which have better secondary STAB moves to work with. Overall, if you're using a Choice set, or, if you're feeling crazy and seriously want to abuse a 16x Ground immunity when Baton Passed Magnet Rise and when holding an Air Balloon, Rotom-S will serve you well.(backspace)</p>

[SET]
name: Choice
move 1: Air Slash
move 2: Volt Switch / Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Grass
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Scarf / Choice Specs
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is the only set that Rotom-S can use effectively, (remove comma) that isn't completely outclassed by any of the other Rotom Appliances. With a Choice Scarf around its neck, Rotom-S is able to outspeed various offensive Pokemon, including but not limited to Azelf, Mismagius, and Victini, and proceed to finish them off with Air Slash or Volt Switch. This set is also a great scout, although Rotom-C is probably better at doing this specific task, as it can scare away Ground-types with its STAB Leaf Storm. Rotom-S can only rely on a meager Air Slash, which means Ground-types will often switch in to take what could be a punishing attack. For this reason, Hidden Power Grass is used, and Rotom-S can act as a good lure to Pokemon such as Rhyperior and Donphan, as Hidden Power Grass does huge damage to both; it is a sure 2HKO on Rhyperior with a Choice Specs, and an easily 2HKO on Donphan, even with the Scarf.</p>

<p>The last move on the set, Trick, is used for taking out any would-be (add hyphen) counter. Rotom-S can effectively lure out and KO bulky Ground-types, and Trick is able to destroy another potential counter, such as Chansey, Deoxys-D, or Celebi. After this, Rotom-S's teammates should be able to take advantage of the situation, and prepare for a sweep. For example, with Rhyperior / Donphan removed, and Chansey Tricked, Houndoom can essentially sweep, as its main counters will have been removed. Trick is an essential move on this set.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>There isn't much else to say about this set; it does exactly what it says on the tin. You can choose to alter it slightly, though. Thunderbolt can be chosen over Volt Switch, as it does grant extra power, which helps when revenge killing Pokemon such as Azelf, or causing more damage when using a Choice Scarf. Volt Switch is preferred, though, as it tends to lure in Ground-types more, as nobody wants to let Rotom-S bring in a Pokemon for free. Rotom-S can then proceed to do great damage with Hidden Power Grass. Talking of Hidden Power, many other variants can be used, and Hidden Power Ice is too a good option. Unfortunately, Hidden Power Ice does not hit Gastrodon and Quaqsire super effectively, both of which are dead ends for Rotom-S, super effectively, which is why Hidden Power Grass is the preferred option. Pain Split can be quite effective, and Rotom-S gets a full restore if Chansey switches into it, which is quite a common occurrence. Finally, Rotom-S can at times make use of a status move, but Trick is usually just as, if not more so, (comma) crippling.</p>

<p>Teammates for Rotom-S include ones that can work well once Ground-types are removed, as stated before. Houndoom is exceptionally good with the absence of Rhyperior, and it also appreciates Chansey being Tricked. Victini is much in the same boat, along with Magmortar; all Fire-types appreciate Rotom-S's help. Ground-types, ironically, are too good teammates for Rotom-S too, as since they can switch in on the Rock-type attacks that are so commonly directed at it. Donphan is perhaps the best example, as it can beat Rhyperior and such without difficulty. Grass-types can give specially defensive variants of Rhyperior and Donphan a hard time, since Hidden Power Grass does not do enough to these variants, unless Rotom-S is using a Choice Specs. Shaymin and Celebi can switch in all day long against the aforementioned Pokemon, and they can launch off STAB Seed Flares and Leaf Storms, (comma) respectively.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>In terms of other options, Rotom-S does not have much to boast. A paraflinch set, with Pain Split, Air Slash, Thunder Wave, (comma) and Thunderbolt could possibly be effective, although it is walled hard by Ground-types. Rotom-S could also use a SubCharge set, as Air Slash has no negative effects, unlike the poor accuracy of Blizzard and the crippling Special Attack reduction of Leaf Storm and Overheat. Toxic can be used on any set, as it will cripple any common switch-in to Rotom-S. Finally, a defensive set could be effective, but Zapdos does this better, thanks to its better defenses and access to Roost, among moves like Heat Wave for dealing with threats such as Escavalier.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Rotom-S is truly hampered by Ground-types, but they must watch out for Hidden Power Grass. Rhyperior is the best option, as it can proceed to smash Rotom-S with Stone Edge. Flygon is another effective counter, as it is neutral to Hidden Power Grass, and it can scout out the opponent's incoming switch with U-turn. It must beware of Choice Specs Air Slashes, though. Pokemon that boast huge Special Defense stats, such as Chansey and Deoxys-D, can wall Rotom-S without difficulty, although they must beware of Trick. Finally, beware of Air Slash – it always seems to flinch at the worst times...</p>


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