Well, technically, in OU, at least for Wifi, you CAN do all those things.You really can't call DW a fairytale metagame when people are more than happy to play the "real OU"....the real "OU" where you magically can't use evasion moves, can't put a second pokemon to sleep, OHKO moves always fail, etc. etc.
Messing with the programming of the game itself and then calling something that's actually present in the game's data unreal is mad.
Every tier that isn't BW OU or UU and Ubers to an extent is near impossible to get a match in. There's only a few hundred people on the server at it's busiest, so it's no surprise.Its kinda hard to get a battle in dreamworld ou, i usually just use the po servers dw tier because its always busy
That's why I enjoy playing on Smogon. Playing on DW, I walk all over people with 1200+ ratings, while the guys here with 1200+ ratings actually make me work for wins.PO DW > Smogon DW imo.
PO has much more people, and many good players. Smogon just has the latter.
It's very true that it's hard to find a match sometimes in Smogon DW, I'm stuck at #2 right now because it's impossible to actually find someone to play.PO DW > Smogon DW imo.
PO has much more people, and many good players. Smogon just has the latter.
Good point, I forgot those were illegal in OU, I'll add that in.Since you've updated the original post, one thing to note about the pinch berries is Sturdy abuse with Custap Berries. Slower enemies, generally Spikers do this in the lead position to get off an extra layer before dying or Explode in your face.
Because Dream World is seen as a PO metagame in the same way Clear Skies is, despite the fact that it's more popular than Ubers, UU and LC combined. Rising_Dusk, the smogonite who runs the server, despises it and therefore it's cool for OU players to thumb their noses at DW. You'll notice a lot of badged OU players saying things like "DW is just a fantasy game", "it's not even pokemon" and other generally ignorant statements without being challenged because of how difficult it is to challenge the opinions of the guy running the server. Never mind the fact that it's the second most popular metagame, it's way more diverse than OU and requires more careful planning due to the nature of common threats like Chandelure and Ditto requiring patience. You'd think that Smogon would be all over this metagame.OU: ~ 274,000
UU: ~ 69,000
Ubers: ~ 9,000
LC: ~ 1300
DW: ~ 106,000
Why does the second most popular tier not get any official endorsement or suspect testing when a tier played 100x less gets both, as well as it's own subforum (I'm talking about LC). I was on board with Smogon's philosophy originally to kind of ignore DW, but looking at those numbers I'm not sure if that's such a good idea. If something is so popular we should be working to legitimize it.
This.it's cool for OU players to thumb their noses at DW.
This makes no sense to me considering that the top ten teams in DW are weather teams.... Show me a DW rain team that doesn't use Ferrow, Genisect, Lati@s, or Thunderachi.DW >>>>>>>>>> OU. There are actually threats in the tier that don't require weather to set up so it provides for a nice variation of stale OU weather wars. In OU, if you lose your weather mon you've lost the match. In DW, you can still come back. In OU there might be 50 pokemon that qualify, but there are only like 5 types of team possible. Sand, Rain, Hail, Sun, No weather (but you have to have things capable of dealing with weather mons anyways), with no real variation. For example: every Sand team has ttar/gliscor/excadrill/ferrothorn/filler.
I don't understand why some people are so anti-DW. Calling it a "fantasy" game? Uh...you do realize we're playing Pokemon, right? Even beyond that, we're playing a Pokemon game with rules such as Sleep and Evasion clause, which are non-existent in the actual game. Face it, we're already in a fantasy land.