Haha WHAAAT. Feliz is a reliever. It doesn't matter how many saves he has; that stat is the stupidest creation in history of man kind. Andrus can't hit to save his life, and Profar could end up the same way.
How do you know that? He was pitching pretty well before they sent him down
The guy came up this year from the minors and was able to hold two potent offenses to a single run over Eight Innings (Rangers and Reds) He has consistency issues, but when he was locked in he looked better than Hughes ever did last year. And even when he wasn't on, he still kept us in the game as best he good. That's the sign of a great pitcher, possibly a potential ace. And he's still young and hasn't reached his peak yet.
^+1. The regular season is still important. It's the fairweather fans' season that begins in October.
It doesn't matter what you think of saves, when EVERY team in the league places a premium value on relievers who can effectively close out games. Like it or not, the save has become a desired trait in the current climate of the game and he's proven to be pretty effective in obtaining them. Also as I'm sure you're aware, they originally slated this guy to be a starter. If he got stretched out there's no telling how effective he can be in that role.
With what logic do you offer up this nugget of baseball knowledge? He's a good, young talent who hasn't even had that much time to offer much to form an opinion on his ceiling; he hasn't even pitched a full-season's worth of games yet! Please let me know what team you scout for to have this fantastic baseball insight.
miss the point. a star closer is nowhere near in value to an ace starting pitcher. you could offer Riveria in his prime and you'd still need a ton more to acquire Felix. if Feliz can be converted into a good starter, it's a whole other story completely but right now, an "elite" closer is not worth anything compared to an elite SP.
i don't think Andrus is going to get that much better than he is now. that said, he's a 3 WAR (so far this season) SS, a really thin position.
i hope you didn't just cite W/L as a stat to talk up a pitcher. and a sub 3 era looks great...but he's got an xFIP closer to 4. Ogando isn't this good but he's still a decent mid to back end starter.
he's already got a Cy Young and over a thousand strikeouts at age 25. he is coming off back to back amazing seasons. he is a ridiculously good pitcher signed to a very friendly contract given his performance. you don't trade Felix Hernandez for B players like Feliz, Andrus, and Ogando. conversely, if that deal gets it done for your team to acquire Felix, you pull the trigger. quickly. before someone tells the Seattle GM he just got swindled.
he doesn't strike batters out, here or in the minors, doesn't show good control, and doesn't have any true plus pitches. he's a back end guy, especially in the AL East.
No team is going to trade 3 established, young players for one great starting pitcher. Look at the deals done for Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay, two of the best pitchers in baseball. They've been traded for 3-4 prospects that may end up being a Feliz, Andrus, or Ogando. Granted they weren't as young, but they easily have 5+ years left in the tank.
Not that it matters. Feliz is going to be a reliever long term either way. Get this: He's never gone into the 7th inning in his pro career. Ever. He has no usable third pitch, and his curve can be inconsistent.
I never said that. But he doesn't have the type of skill set that truly peaks.
lol W/L. The ERA is nice, and Ogando is a good middle of the rotation guy, but he's being really aided by that .243 BABIP.
Yup. He's already had 30.7 WAR and he's... 25!
He cannot strike people out to save his life. The highest K/9 he's ever had in the minors is 7.53 (in RK ball, and in 43 IP). After that, it was 7.14 in 145 IP. Not only that, but he has fairly poor control. He gets grounders, which is the only thing he can only really do.
I'm not a scout... But here's John Sickels: "7) Ivan Nova, RHP, Grade B-: Looks like a competent fourth starter to me."
If you're afraid of being hurt, you should not play the game. Sliding head first is dangerous, yet people do it all the time. McKenry took the odds of not getting hurt, but that led to a worse play. If he just blocked the plate, the game would have went on.
That's a really asinine thing to say. As in, really, really, REALLY asinine. Lugo was less than half way down the third base line when Alvarez came up with the ball, and the throw was going to beat the runner by a mile. And it did beat him by a mile, and the tag was made. There was no logical reason to block home plate; in fact, that would've been detrimental. Had McKenry been doing so, Lugo would been legally allowed to plow the him with all his might, and they was no way McKenry would catch the ball, or even walk off after that. It's incredibly stupid to suggest he should have been blocking home plate. There was zero benefit behind it, with extremely dangerous consequences. For goodness sakes, had the call been made properly, you wouldn't even be saying something that ridiculous. Catchers should never be blocking the plate anyways. One out, even if it is on the winning run, is likely not going to make or break a season. Losing a player can. Let me reiterate: LUGO WAS OUT BY A MILE, and he was CLEARLY tagged. You're really trying to blame this on the catcher? What the fuck.
WOW. Are you honestly insane enough to believe the two situations are at all comparable, or are you just trying to be difficult on purpose?
