The game wasn't a sweep fest in gen IV (which was the focus of that group, btw).
Ah, I see it was a Gen 4 thing, may be worth trying to revive it then.
Power creep, I suppose. We have more offensive goodies to play with, all defence really got was Scolipede and Eviolite. Look at UU and even OU, both more offensive than they were. Now look to LC, which has gone from Hyper Offense + Gligar to a pretty good, balanced tier.
And so what if Chansey sucks? I say about damn time.
I wasn't saying "All hail Lord Chansey" I was saying "Chansey is a bloody good wall and even she gets beaten to a pulp."
Porygon2 is the best mixed wall in the tier WITHOUT an Eviolite; it can easily run a bulky set with an Eviolite and instant recovery with Recover, and with a nice boost from Download, do some heavy damage itself.
As badass as the Gonster is, he's more of a tank than a wall, in my (albeit, limited) experience.
Also, without Eviolite, Pikachu can just Focus Punch it in the face. Do we have any sturdy fighting types in the tier? I can't help but feel he's a little TOO powerful. I haven't seen masses of him, but on paper is over powered.
Also, regarding your signature, Pikachu gets stopped cold by Choice Scarf Gabite, seeing as all Pikachu can really do to it is HP Ice on a predicted switch, or just scurry away like the rat he is, should Gabite come in.
Oh no, a hard counter!
Pikachu is not Arceus, he is Scizor. Bloody powerful, but still counterable.
Gabite here is Heatran, a pretty solid counter unless Pikachu runs something sub-optimal (HP Ice is Superpower) to deal with him on the prediction. And even then, he must run a Scarf to deal with him, whilst I switch to my Dusclops to tank Outrage, Will-o-Wisp back and leave you crippled.
why would you use toxic orb over specs on the kadabra set?
Excellent question! Specs are a very good alternative (Or, in honesty, Toxic orb is a very good alternative to Specs) but since you need your move changing (Almost anything he'd want to run has something immune to it) an alternative is good. With Toxic Orb you switch in on something, it gets Poisoned by Synchronise, then you cripple and poison thier wall. 2 in 1! Also, you can't be paralyzed!
Chansey really can't do anything to Haunter can she? can't toxic it. and can't seismic toss it. So she's pretty much slowly getting stalled unless she runs an offensive set.
You don't wanna get T-Waved, but a Sub could block that. Yeah he's a pretty good counter, now you say it.
Anyway, after reading this topic, I now know I need to readjust my team lol! For god's sake I'm running Pignite currently :p
Monferno > Pignite :P
Anyway, what's everyone's opinions on Klang? after a few shift gears he can really wreck shit up with just steel / normal. Dusclops is scary however.
With Shift Gears, though, you lose a LOT of move pool. But yeah, a pretty solid poke on paper. One of the few steels we have :P
Also, does anybody have a list of all the pokemon you can use? Sorry if it's been posted earlier.
Here you go :) Note that I don't think anything exists yet for checking move compatabilities, though.