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I'd just like to make one correction: every consistent high BP special move got nerfed. It seems like the physical powerhouse attacks are unchanged.
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Other Looking Ahead to Gen VI Mark II (SEE POSTS #818 & #858)
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I have Gyarados, Mawile, Alakazam, Pinsir, Manetric, Banette, Medicham and Garchomp stones.
I don't know which ones are uknown stat-wise but if you want me to, I can try to get the pokemon and Mega-evolve them.
I don't know which ones are uknown stat-wise but if you want me to, I can try to get the pokemon and Mega-evolve them.
All of them are unknown stat-wise except for Medicham so you're good to go.
Everyone but Medicham is unknown.
Edit: I'm too slow!
That would be cool. Gamefreak would have been assuredly looking into the community's ideas if that happened
Is it still bug/steel?
I can't see with that flash in the picture.
Yes, it is.
There seems to be no point in using Mega Scizor as it is outclassed by Life orb Scizor.
It does get 140 defense and 100 sp.d however...
Klefki needs recovery and status moves or Taunt to be of use on defensive teams, as otherwise it has really poor stats even though it typing is awesome. And we all know that GF does not hand out recovery easily. Also, MegaAggron will most likely be a tank not a wall. A tank is good for balanced teams not stall teams. Without recovery and lefties, it won't fit well on stall teams probably. Same with Aegishield. It's a tank or bulky sweeper, unless he gets recovery of 'course. And Whimsicott is just not a wall. It may have gotten a big boost, but that will just help it do its job better. And its job was to reclaim momentum, not to wall things. And the Dragon / Poison thing has poor defensive stats for OU even though its type is great, and will need some really good moves including recovery to be viable on defensive team. So we haven't really gotten more than 2-3 good defensive Pokemon. We have mostly gotten good tanks and sweepers.
And you can't say that offense got nerfed. It may have lost some good offensive Pokemon (Dragon-types), but there are many new ones introduced, including MEvos. And why are you assuming that being hard to spin will benefit only stall teams? Spike stacking HO will love Aegishield for its ability to spinblock, check a ton of Pokemon, provide priority, and sweep if given the chance.
This is exactly why i made this disclaimer:
Nothing is sure right now, i am just giving my take on the meta with the info we have so far...
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Well, leave defensive sets (it's hard to find many steels with reliable recovery and Scizor is one of those) and bulky swords dance to MegaScizor while go with offensive and Choice Band/Scarf with normal Scizor obviously. Scizor will love this increased bulk for Ubers for sure (although it's a real shame that he lost those resistances to Ghost and Dark x_X), I kind of missed him there in Gen 5, as in Gen 4 he was pretty popular Pokemon in Ubers. Anyway they both provide different niche from what I see so far.
I am STILL not sold on Avalugg. Even with the calcs presented on what SE moves it can tank, what makes it a better spinner than, say, Donphan? Both their base HP stats seem comparable from what we know (Donphan's base 90 vs. Avalugg's likely 95). Donphan may only have 120 base Defense, but it's also not weak to Fighting, Fire(irrelevant, but still) or Steel and resists Rock. Outside of possibly being able to OHKO Dragons with STAB, I just can't see it's use. And that's assuming it gets Ice Shard.
Also GCSChris, I'm surprised no one seemed to notice, but why are we using the Roman numeral for 4 on the OP of a competitive discussion for gen 6? :)
Also GCSChris, I'm surprised no one seemed to notice, but why are we using the Roman numeral for 4 on the OP of a competitive discussion for gen 6? :)
Could imagine a bulky SD set with it, but yeah, I'd much rather use CB and Life Orb just for their sheer utility and the opportunity cost.
Speaking of megas, this doesn't appear to be posted yet so:
Mega Mawile's stats are 50/105/125/55/95/50. Close to what I've expected. Would've like more defences, but still, it beats Mega Medicham for highest attack in the game. Might be good as an offensive tank.
EDIT: Also, I love Whimsicott's new potential as a defensive Grass. Priority Encore on dragons followed by Stun Spore... delicious.
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Mega Scizor has Ferrothorn-like typing and bulk with Roost, usable speed and insane attack...
Why not use a defensive set...?
Why not use a defensive set...?
Wow. I couldn't be happier with MegaMawile's stats considering I expected Nintendo to troll us by giving it a sizable amount of special attack or speed. That attack though! On a defensive mon, that's just incredible.
Also already over Mega Scizor. They seriously made it exactly the same even with Technician? Scizor is already so boring. Wish they would've done something cool.
Also already over Mega Scizor. They seriously made it exactly the same even with Technician? Scizor is already so boring. Wish they would've done something cool.
I actually half-expected much of the same. It's actually pleasantly surprising. 50/125/95 defences will be surprisingly good with such a great typing. Now all it needs is the Play Rough move for Fairy-STAB confirmed and we're good to go. (Apparently it learns it at around level 60, according to leaks)
Though now that Mega Aggron is a thing, it has stiff competition for the prized Mega Slot.
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105 Attack not including the Pure Power boost. 125 Defense, 95 Special Defense...
Mawile might work better as a fairy check rather than a dragon check. It could do a decent job at checking ghosts with Sucker Punch too. It would pair beautifully with Salamence - both covering each other's weaknesses, and Mawile paving away opponent fairy-types for a late-game Salamence sweep.
Also, seeing as its attack is ridiculous enough as it is, maybe Careful or Impish might be more common natures to make it extra tankish. (And so random Fire Blast doesn't OHKO it)
For Mega Kangaskhan (from the data thread, again), its stats are: 105/125/100/60/100/100 = 590 BST.
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it cant be removed. was confirmed in the leak/data collection thread
Rotom-W's hp? I must say, Mawile wears it a lot better.
This gen seems to be the gen of tanks. I have the feeling we'll see a rise in variety among bulky pivots on offense teams. Gourgeist, Doublade, Sylveon, and Goodra are some candidates to try out when the showdown is updated, and this is without talking about megas. And, don't forget that sleep no longer resets on the switch, which means Rest is (somewhat) viable again.
Hmm. Those are really good. If that extra 20 put in Spec. Atk was in Speed though he'd be perfect. As it stands, Gamefreak put him in sort of an awkward position. The speed is so high it feels like a waste to not use it but it's not quite high enough to justify abandoning Kangaskhan's formidable new bulk. Ugh. Why did they have to give it Spec. Atk???!?!?!?! :/
I'm sure it'll only be UU anyway though, and it probably would've been even with 120 Speed. So overall, I like it! Just wanna know if Circle Throw phazes twice lol.
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