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Question: How are you guys calculating base stats? I've seen other sites state greninja has slightly higher attack than SP atack, while your's states it's the other way around, for example
 
Been training my Aromatisse. She's learned so far Echoed Voice, Calm Mind, Moonblast, Charm, and Draining Kiss, in case someone's interested.
 
The stats for the blade stance Aegislash are wrong.

I didn't specifically EV this guy so he has pretty even EVs. There's absolutely no way he has the same Def, SpD, and Spe. This is +Spe btw but still, that's too huge a gap.
 
Question: How are you guys calculating base stats? I've seen other sites state greninja has slightly higher attack than SP atack, while your's states it's the other way around, for example
The formula for calculating final stats is:

HP = 10 + (Level/100) * (Base*2 + EVs/4 + IVs + 100)
Other = 5 + (Level/100) * (Base*2 + EVs/4 + IVs)

It can be difficult, though, because IVs can be hard to find. For Megas, it's easier because you already have the base form's IVs as a constant, so the difference in starting/transformed stats will relate to the difference in base stats.

That's the formula for a neutral nature, anyway. For positive/negative natures, you multiply by 1.1 or 0.9; I'm not sure whether it's just the second term or the whole thing.
 
Maybe he meant SR is removed after it hit a pokemon 3 times? Considering it's very easy to OHKO things in this game, if it works that way it could have easily been 3 turns.
Nope, this isn't the case either. I battled against a carbink who used SR on the first turn. I then proceeded to switch out 5 times, taking SR damage each time.
 
Crustle has a new 2-turn attack called Rocky Water. I'm assuming it's physical and it needs a turn to recharge after using it.

EDIT: I'm stupid, it was probably Rock Wrecker and my eyes misread it somehow.
 
The formula for calculating final stats is:

HP = 10 + (Level/100) * (Base*2 + EVs/4 + IVs + 100)
Other = 5 + (Level/100) * (Base*2 + EVs/4 + IVs)

It can be difficult, though, because IVs can be hard to find. For Megas, it's easier because you already have the base form's IVs as a constant, so the difference in starting/transformed stats will relate to the difference in base stats.

That's the formula for a neutral nature, anyway. For positive/negative natures, you multiply by 1.1 or 0.9; I'm not sure whether it's just the second term or the whole thing.
So, since we don't know the exact IVs, all of the stats in question aren't 100% accurate, correct?
 
The stats for the blade stance Aegislash are wrong.

I didn't specifically EV this guy so he has pretty even EVs. There's absolutely no way he has the same Def, SpD, and Spe. This is +Spe btw but still, that's too huge a gap.
yep, it definitely has lower speed, lol.

stats of mine (lvl 62, careful nature):

shield form:
hp 165
atk 96
def 204
spatk 70
spdef 237
speed 106

blade form:
hp 165
atk 220
def 80
spatk 181
spdef 101
speed 106


The formula for calculating final stats is:

HP = 10 + (Level/100) * (Base*2 + EVs/4 + IVs + 100)
Other = 5 + (Level/100) * (Base*2 + EVs/4 + IVs)
If that is true then Xerneas base stats are:

hp 125
atk 130
def 94
spatk 130
spdef 97
speed 98

but they only add up to 674, so something must be wrong... I guess it can't be 100 % accurate if it isn't done on level 100.
 
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Unless you have photographic / video graphic proof, I am inclined not to believe. I have heard from other sources on IRC that this isn't the case. Why would you post such a big claim without a log / evidence?
My mistake, my idiot brother was the one who "apparently" tested it out, and not show it to me. In my excitement, I wrote what was clearly untrue. Sorry guys. :(
 
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reposting here
Asked Molk to take his Zygarde to the stat judge to get the stats for this thing faster and got this results:
[11:38] <Molk> if my iv guy translation is correct
[11:38] <Molk> my zygarde has
[11:38] <TROP> 130 max with 31 ivs is 150
[11:38] <Molk> perfect hp
[11:39] <Molk> special attack
[11:39] <Molk> and speed stats
[11:39] <TROP> did he say it cant be better
[11:39] <~Molk> yes
[11:39] <TROP> or something like that
[11:39] <TROP> ok give stats for zygarde
[11:39] <TROP> and nature obv
[11:40] <Molk> 252 hp
[11:40] <Molk> 161 attack
[11:40] <Molk> 211 defense
[11:40] <Molk> 126 special attack
[11:40] <Molk> 139 special defense
[11:40] <Molk> 159 speed
[11:40] <Molk> impish
[11:40] <Molk> level 70

With the Stats molk gave me and the ivs the stat judge told him, Zygarde has the following: 108/x/x/81-82/x/95


read post belows for Xerneas' stats.

For anyone that want to get the stats for the new mons faster: Stat judge is in the Pokécenter of Kiloude City
 
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i have the ability capsule now and i wanted to give my starter his second ability but it said it wont work..so the starters dont have a second normal ability? hmmm
 
Same thing, but this time for Xerneas
[11:36] <Molk> my xerneas has
[11:36] <Molk> x/31/x/31/x/31
[11:36] <Molk> how fucking lucky am i with this game
[11:36] <TROP> give stats for those
[11:36] <Molk> calm nature
[11:36] <Molk> 135 attack
[11:36] <Molk> 151 special attack
[11:36] <Molk> 119 speed
[11:36] <TROP> actual stat
[11:36] <TROP> right
[11:36] <Molk> yes
[11:36] <TROP> ok
[11:37] <TROP> no evs
[11:37] <TROP> ?
[11:37] <TROP> speed is
[11:37] <Molk> no evs

Xerneas based on what molk has and the ivs the stat judge gave him : x/130-131(i doubt its offenses will be different, but listing 130 just in case)/x/131/x/99
Sp.a can't be 130 because 130 with 31 ivs is 150 and this Xerneas has 151.
Asked molk later for confirmation, and he said he never used his Xerneas.
Xerneas highest stats at lvl 50 are this (neutral nature, 31 IVs, no EVs):

hp 201
atk 151
def 115
spatk 151
spdef 118
speed 119

And like I said in my previous post
base stats:
hp 125
atk 130
def 94
spatk 130
spdef 97
speed 98

but they only add up to 674, so something must be wrong... I guess it can't be 100 % accurate if it isn't done on level 100.
:/
 
Uhm, those Clawitzer's base stats are wrong, I think. I received a Mischievous Clawitzer (meaning SpA IV is the highest one and is either 1, 6, 11, 16, 21, 26, 31), yet the only IV that matches Gengar's SpA at the same level (who's supposed to have the same base SpA) is 1. However, it's not possible my IVs are 0/0/0/1/0/0, as the defensive stats are pretty different.
IVs are all 0s, as I used a Reset Bag in super training. Bashful nature.

clawitzer.png
 
If that is true then Xerneas base stats are:

hp 125
atk 130
def 94
spatk 130
spdef 97
speed 98

but they only add up to 674, so something must be wrong... I guess it can't be 100 % accurate if it isn't done on level 100.
125/130/95/130/100/100 gives you 680 which sounds just right.
 

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Xerneas highest stats at lvl 50 are this (neutral nature, 31 IVs):

hp 201
atk 151
def 115
spatk 151
spdef 118
speed 119

And like I said in my previous post

:/
With the stats you posted, Xerneas has the following: 126/131/95/131/98/99. You had 1 less on everything.

(i missed your post on xerneas with 31 ivs lol)



...These are some really random stats.
 
125/130/95/130/100/100 gives you 680 which sounds just right.
these numbers are wrong, though.

It has higher speed than spdef.

The formular should be able to calculate it 100 % correctly, but I guess not if the stats are not from level 100.

EDIT:

ah, since you round down for the actual stat, if you do it the other way around, I guess I'd need to round up. that's that, then...
 

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So, Katakiri, I have a couple Amaura stats.


60-29-30-32-35-25, docile, capable of taking hits
65-30-28-32-30-28, serious, quick to flee
63-28-29-34-35-31, timid, somewhat of a clown
66-26-30-34-34-25, timid, scatters things often
62-27-25-33-33-28, calm, impetuous and silly
66-32-33-29-36-25, impish, strong willed
65-31-25-37-34-25, quiet, loves to eat
61-32-28-35-34-23, relaxed, likes to thrash about
66-31-30-28-31-24, adamant, loves to eat
66-29-31-40-36-22, quiet, somewhat vain

Amaura lv20
HP: 60-66
Atk: 29-32?
Def: 25-31
Sp. Atk: 32-37?
Sp. Def: 30-36
Speed: 23-29

I believe its range is 6 for every stat, so that's why I put those question marks. If I'm right about the 6-number range, then its stats would be:

Base HP: 75-76
Base Atk: 45-61
Base Def: 45-46
Base Sp. Atk: 65-69
Base Sp. Def: 63-64
Base Speed: 45-46

I'm stopping for now because my last Aurora's 30-31/x/28-31/x/31/x and I can't bring myself to SR it lol.
 
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I was battling a Team Flare Grunt's Swalot, and I used Dig on it with my Tyrunt. While I was underground, it used Toxic on me and hit! Has Toxic always done this?
 
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