[COMPLETED] Blastoise

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"You know, if you're gonna make me Mega evolve, at least design me with a little less phallic imagery"
QC Approvals: Alexwolf, Jukain, SOMALIA

GP Approvals: RitterCat

Status: DONE!

[Pros]

<ul>
<li>Blastoise offers one very important thing: Rapid Spin. In fact, Mega Blastoise is perhaps the best bulky Rapid Spin user.</li>
<li>Mega Blastoise's humongous special offense and decent defenses let it threaten Ghost-types amongst other opponents while grabbing many opportunities to spin, and then batter the opposition.</li>
<li>It has a great special movepool, with attacks such as Aura Sphere, Dark Pulse, and Dragon Pulse taken advantage of by Mega Launcher</li>
<li>Its pure Water typing and bulk make it less vulnerable to common attacks.</li>
</ul>

[Cons]

<ul>
<li>The fact that Mega Blastoise is Water-type and takes up a Mega slot may limit teambuilding significantly.</li>
<li>It faces competition from other Rapid Spin users such as Starmie, as well as other Mega Pokemon.</li>
<li>It is relatively slow; even when it's fully invested, it's still going to be outsped frequently.</li>
<li>A lack of recovery somewhat diminishes Blastoise's bulk.</li>
</ul>

[Set Recommendations]

<p>name: Rapid Spin<br />
move 1: Rapid Spin<br />
move 2: Scald / Water Pulse / Hydro Pump<br />
move 3: Dark Pulse<br />
move 4: Aura Sphere / Ice Beam</p>
ability: Rain Dish<br />
item: Blastoisenite<br />
evs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD<br />
nature: Modest</p>

<p>This is Mega Blastoise's best set, taking advantage of its great special offenses and using Rapid Spin to aid hazard-weak teammates. Unlike other Rapid Spin users, Mega Blastoise easily matches up against most spinblockers due to its bulk, neutrality to Ghost-type attacks, indifference to being burned by the common Will-o-Wisp, and ability to KO them with its boosted Dark Pulse. 252/0 Aegislash, for example, is easily 2HKOed in its Shield Forme, while Trevenant has a high chance of being OHKOed at full health. Outside of Rapid Spinning, Mega Blastoise can play the role of a bulky tank that can take some attacks and then hit back; however, keep in mind that because it lacks recovery and Leftovers, it can't be relied on to take too much damage. Therefore, it is not advised to switch in too often or too carelessly, and it is recommended to use Rapid Spin on a Pokemon that can't deal much back to it, such as an offensively-weak tank or wall.</p>

<p>Aside from its obvious Water-type STAB attack and Dark Pulse, Mega Blastoise's coverage attacks are the only attacks left for debate. Aura Sphere is used mainly to deal reliable damage against Steel-types such as Ferrothorn, while Ice Beam gives Blastoise equally important coverage against Dragon- and Grass-types.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Despite Mega Blastoise's great bulk, it lacks reliable recovery and will go down eventually to random attacks, sandstorm, status, and other forms of damage. Pokemon with decently powerful Grass- and Electric-type attacks threaten it, as Blastoise isn't fast enough to outrun most offensive threats. Mega Venusaur and Rotom-W are examples of this, as they can take the Water-types attacks that Mega Blastoise aims at them and hit back with their own STAB attacks. Another dangerous foe is Toxicroak, which can set up Swords Dance on variants of Mega Blastoise without Ice Beam and deals major damage with Sucker Punch and Fighting-type moves. On the more defensive side of things, specially defensive Pokemon such as Florges, Goodra, and Sylveon can tank its attacks, and either set up, attack back, or cripple it with Toxic.</p>
 
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alexwolf is MEAN

just make sure you're instructional as to how this is used. the moves are obvious for the most part.

qc 2/3
 
I'm not sure if this is worth mentioning in the OP or not, but giving Blastoise Tailwind or BP Speed Boost support is a great way to give him a shot at wall breaking and grants him some usefulness besides the typical bulky spinner role. Also, Azumarill is a problem for this set as well, so something that counters or at least checks Azumarill would help it greatly. I recommend Scolipede as an offensive partner over Blaziken due to having a super-effective STAB to defeat Azumarill, Sylveon, and Florges, along with Baton Pass to give Blastoise a much needed boost of speed after its done.
 
I'd mention Rotom-W over Heliolisk simply because the latter is pretty frail and doesn't want to risk taking an Aura Sphere to the face. Also mention Toxicroak as am offensive counter.


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[Pros]

<ul>
<li>Blastoise holds offers one very important thing: Rapid Spin. In fact, Mega Blastoise is perhaps the undisputed best bulky Rapid Spin user to exist.</li>
<li>Mega Blastoise's offers humongous special offense and decent defenses, making it able to let it threaten Ghost-typesamongst other opponentswhile grabbing many opportunities to spin, and then batter the opposition.</li>
<li>It has a great special movepool, now upgraded with new egg moves such as Aura Sphere, Dark Pulse, and Dragon Pulse to taken advantage of with by Mega Launcher</li>
<li>Its pure Water typing and bulk makes it less vulnerable to common attacks.</li>
</ul>

[Cons]

<ul>
<li>The fact that Mega Blastoise is Water-type and takes up a Mega slot may limit teambuilding significantly.</li>
<li>It has faces competition with from other Rapid Spin users, such as Starmie, on top of as well as other Mega Pokemon for the Mega slot.</li>
<li>It is relatively slow;, since even when it it's fully invested, it's still going to be outsped frequently by a lot.</li>
<li>A lack of recovery ruins somewhat diminishes Blastoise's bulk somewhat.</li>
</ul>

[Set Recommendations]

<p>Blastoise @ Blastoisenite<br />
Ability: Mega Launcher<br />
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD <br />
Modest Nature (+SpA, -Atk)<br />
- Rapid Spin<br />
- Scald / Water Pulse / Hydro Pump<br />
- Dark Pulse<br />
- Aura Sphere / Ice Beam</p>

<p>This is Mega Blastoise's best set, taking advantage of its great specially offensesive potential in addition to the fact that it has and using Rapid Spin to aid hazard-weak teammates. Unlike other Rapid Spin users, Mega Blastoise easily matches up against most spinblockers due to its bulk, neutrality to Ghost-type attacks, indifference to being burned (caused by the common Will-o-Wisp), and ability to KO them with its boosted Dark Pulse. 252/0 Aegislash, as a grand for example, is easily 2HKOed with little problems in its Shield Forme, while Trevenant has a high chance of being OHKOed at full health. Outside of Rapid Spinning, Mega Blastoise can play the role of a bulky tank that can take some attacks and then hit back;, though however, keep in mind that because it lacks recovery and Leftovers, it can't be relied on to take too much damage there's only so much it can take. Therefore, it is not ill-advised to switch in too often or too carelessly, and it is recommended to use Rapid Spin on something a Pokemon that can't deal much back to it, such as an offensively-weak tanks or walls.</p>

<p>Mega Blastoise's coverage moves Aside from its obvious Water-type STAB attack and Dark Pulse, Mega Blastoise's coverage moves are the only attacks left for debate. Aura Sphere is used mainly to deal great and reliable damage against Steel-types such as Ferrothorn, while Ice Beam gives Blastoise equally important coverage against Dragon- and Grass-types.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Despite Mega Blastoise's great bulk, it lacks reliable recovery and will go down eventually to random attacks, sandstorm, status, and other forms of damage. Pokemon with decently powerful Grass- and Electric-type attacks can also easily threaten it, as Blastoise isn't exactly fast enough to outrun most offensive threats. Mega Venusaur and Rotom-W are examples of this, as they can take the Water-types attacks that Mega Blastoise aims at them and hit back with their respective own STAB Grass- or Electric-type attacks. Another dangerous Pokemon case is Toxicroak, which can set up Swords Dance on Ice Beam-less variants of Mega Blastoise without Ice Beam and deals major damage with Sucker Punch and Fighting-type moves. On the more defensive side of things, specially defensive Pokemon such as Florges, Goodra, and Sylveon can tank its attacks, and either set up, attack back, or cripple it back with Toxic.</p>


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AccidentalGreed

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My god that's a freaking christmas tree

Ah well, thank you for GP'ing my rushed writing Rittercat, haha. I can call this done now.
 

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What about Mirror Coat for special attackers that can't OHKO it, and vice-versa?
A gimmicky move that relies solely on surprise factor and the actions of your opponent, meaning the kind of stuff that is usually mentioned in Other Options, but we don't have such a section for now so no Mirror Coat.
 
Really minor, but shouldn't the ability be Rain Dish? Torrent has no use at all because Mega Evolving gives you a larger power boost anyway (especially with Water Pulse) while Rain Dish could at least somewhat benefit you in some extremely specific situations.
 
Really minor, but shouldn't the ability be Rain Dish? Torrent has no use at all because Mega Evolving gives you a larger power boost anyway (especially with Water Pulse) while Rain Dish could at least somewhat benefit you in some extremely specific situations.
Only if you're using Politoed or something else with Rain Dance. Edit: Oh, and if you mega-evolve right away, then neither ability will make a difference.
 

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