Do you consider 877.4 lbs to be "really light"? ;)
Failed on Lapras, Snorlax and Hariyama. The dustcloud theory has weight (put not intended/ completely intended))
You get Metronome.
Parallel was using Dragonite in his tests, so I guess we could just compare Dragonite to Hawlucha.
I checked, and Dragonite weighs nearly ten times what Hawlucha weighs! If someone tries to get Dragonite to lift Hariyama (or what have you), and if it fails, then I suppose the weight cutoff is static and we can continue to shun Sky Drop as we have in the past... Hopefully, they fixed the gravity glitch, at least, so that this semi-crappy move can at least be used at all... Although, if seriously fat Pokemon are totally immune to it, I fail to see any point to this move beyond an odd method for leftovers/Toxic stalling.
I just tested Retaliate. My Retaliate first turn did the expected double damage, and the second turn it did half that. So it functions how it did last gen.
Sky Drop has huge strategy implications in Doubles and Triples. In Singles, it's pretty underwhelming.
They almost certainly work differently. Worry Seed and Skill Swap actually replace the target's Ability, so mega evolution should override that with its own Ability. Gastro Acid simply causes a transient status ailment (disappears when the victim switches out) that suppresses whatever Ability the target has. I believe you can use Worry Seed on a target that has already been Gastro Acid-ed, and it will still suppress Insomnia.
Yeah I kinda realized that half way through writing that question, but figured it was worth asking anyway. I have never really used gastro acid so I was not positive how it worked, but it is the only thing that makes you have no ability so it would have to work differently
But that's just it. Gastro Acid doesn't make you have no Ability. It just makes your Ability nonfunctional. If you Gastro Acid a Slaking and then use Skill Swap on it, you'll still pull a fully functional Truant off of it and it'll get your Ability, which won't function.
Sorry, I meant functionally no ability, not that it actually cleared your ability or something. I meant that it was the only way to have ability in effect on your pokemon. Everything else just swaps or changes your ability. Gastro Acid suppresses it. I still find it mildly surprising that it stays suppressed if changed by other means, but I suppose it must have worked that way in other gens with skill swap and the like, so if I had known that I would indeed not have been surprised that mega evolving did not affect the gastro acid either.
Just wanted to back up this research. Tested this myself:
This is how it worked before, no change.
I know people already tested iron fist and it is the same. Not sure if they tested reckless, but I would be very surprised if they changed it.
I definitely remember it stacking with moves that targeted the Pressure Pokemon (Surf, Water Spout, etc.) but I don't remember Pressure activating when using attacks like Trick Room that essentially target the field.
Also, presumably Float Stone can bring a user's weight down enough for it to be Sky Dropped. We may want to test in order to make sure this is true.
What happens if the pokémon targets itself (in example, Softboiled Blissey vs. Zapdos)?
Iron Ball only halves Speed and grounds the holder, it has no effect on weight.
Pressure has affected moves that target all Pokemon on the field (such as Trick Room, Rain Dance, Perish Song, etc.) since Gen 4, and it only increases PP usage of moves from the opposing side, not the Pressure Pokemon itself or its allies. Self-targeting moves have never been affected by Pressure from any Pokemon.
Wasn't thinking about the weight factor specifically, so much as "Sky Drop can now fail under some circumstances" and "Iron Ball keeps the holder grounded".
