Hurricane in the rain? What about Moonlight and Flamethrower in the sun? Or is that inferior?
I've been peeping in here for a while, and I am liking the the idea of anti-lead Noivern with Magic Bounce Espeon as a teammate. What do you think of this:
Noivern @ Choice Specs/Life Orb | Frisk
Timid
4 Def, 252 SpA, 252 Spe
- U Turn
- Boomburst
- Draco Meteor
- Flamethrower
Espeon @ Assault Vest | Magic Bounce
Timid
4 HP, 252 SpA, 252 Spe
- Psyshock
- Dazzling Gleam
- Shadow Ball
- Grass Knot/Psychic/Hidden Power/Quick Attack
Some theory moning:
Noivern vs. Galvantula
Frisk detects a focus fash
Noivern U Turns on Galvantula into Espeon to reflect the Sticky Web or survive either STAB attack, breaking its sash. Espeon can threaten it with Psyshock.
OR
Frisks detects any item bar Choice Scarf and threatens it with Flamethrower.
Noivern vs. Greninja
Frisk detects a focus sash
Noivern U Turns on Greninja into Espeon to reflect the Taunt/Spikes or absorb the ice beam. Dark Pulse 2HKOs with full SpA investment, with or without life orb, so it must be wary of that. If Espeon switches in on the ice beam, it can retaliate with Dazzling Gleam on dark-type Greninja after Dark Pulse, but flinchax will ruin it.
OR
Frisk detects a Life Orb
Noivern threatens Greninja with Specs Boomburst.
Noivern vs. Smeargle
Frisk detects a focus sash
Noivern U Turns to Espeon, breaking the sash, and Espeon can reflect status and hazards, forcing a switch.
End theory moning
Maybe none of it is viable because there's either something out there who craps on it or....yeah.
I can think of a ProtectPassing Scolipede with Rock Slide. If Noivern runs Life Orb instead of Choice Specs, I think it could make room for taunt if the rest of the team can't shut it down.
With 14 pages, I'm still fighting over Frisk and Infiltrator myself.
For a two-man core, what about Noivern and Mega Mawile? They do cover each other's weaknesses.
Support approach for Noivern:
Noivern @ Leftovers | Infiltrator
IVs: 0 if you don't carry U Turn
Timid
230 HP, 36 SpA ,252 Spe
- Taunt
- Tailwind
- Super Fang
- U Turn/Boomburst/Draco Meteor/Flamethrower
The 230 HP makes Noivern's HP stat a multiple of 16, giving Leftovers +1, but not at level 50. 36 SpA Flamethrower always pushes physically defensive Skarmort to Sturdy while having a 50% chance to OHKO 252 HP/4 SpD Scizor without SR, but Mega Scizor is a different story (18.8% chance to OHKO 252 HP/4 SpD WITH SR). It always 2HKOs physically defensive Ferrothorn and OHKOs physically defensive Forretress while having a 45.3% chance to 2HKO specially defensive Ferrothorn after leftovers, 95.3% chance with SR.
Taunt can grant some setup opportunities for Mawile to use Swords Dance.
Tailwind is the big boom of this set, as it can give Mawile a few turns of double speed, which is scary.
Super Fang weakens some physical walls for Mawile, and the last slot is almost filler. You could even tack on Roost for Noivern if you feel comfortable with it.
The only thing with this set is these two (support Noivern and Mawile) lose to Gliscor, so you could either pack a teammate for the flyscorpion or run Noivern's more offensive approach in this core:
Noivern @ Life Orb | Infiltrator
IVs: 29 HP, 0 Atk
Timid
252 SpA, 4 SpD, 252 Spe
- Draco Meteor
- Tailwind
- Taunt/Boomburst
- Flamethrower
I think someone earlier in the thread mentioned that 29 IVs and 0 EVs of HP rounds down Life Orb recoil, so that's good. That also holds true at lv50 (reaching a HP stat of 159).
Life Orb Draco Meteor approximately has a 75% chance to OHKO standard (252 HP 184 Def 72 Speed, right?) Gliscor after Substitute and Poison Heal, guaranteed after SR, but don't count on SR saving you with Gliscor too much.
I'm really looking at Tailwind's potential to assist Mawile with some cleaning. How viable is it? I think it can be if Noivern comes in on the right Pokémon, which is further helped with Taunt. If not Taunt, Boomburst is there for some reliable damage. Flamethrower is for the steels who resist the Steel/Fairy STAB and would rather use a status move than be hit with Sucker Punch.
Fire types also resist Steel/Fairy STAB....now the call for a third teammate is made.
What do you all think?