A classic... dead? I have no imagination... deadfox081 vs Classical

ROUND 6


Pre-Round Status
deadfox081

Barbarian the Nidoking
HP:
100
EN: 100
Stats: 4/2/4/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Life Orb
Abilities: Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force
Status: Healthy
Other:
Classical

TwinkleToes the Ludicolo
HP:
48
EN: 75
Stats: 4/3/3/3/70 140
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: None
Abilities: Swift Swim, Rain Dish, Own Tempo
Status: Healthy
Other:
FIELD: Rain (2 Rounds)​

Action 1
TwinkleToes used Hydropump!
Hit (<= 8500) = 9231: NO
But it missed!
-7 EN

Barbarian used Sludge Bomb!
Crit (<= 625) = 2886: NO
(9 + 3 + 6 - 4.5 + 2 + 3) * 1.5 = 27.75 Dmg
Poison (<= 3000) = 8484: NO
-6 EN
Barbarian was hurt by its Life Orb! (-2 HP)

Rain Dish! (+2 HP)

Action 2
TwinkleToes used Hydropump!
Hit (<= 8500) = 6421: YES
Crit (<= 625) = 2757: NO
(11 + 3 + 4.5 - 4.5 + 3) = 25.5 Dmg
-11 EN

Barbarian used Megahorn!
Hit (<= 8500) = 4374: NO
Crit (<= 625) = 5012: NO
(12 + 6 - 4.5 + 3) * 1.5 = 24.75 Dmg
TwinkleToes fainted!
-8 EN
Barbarian was hurt by its Life Orb! (-2 HP)

Totals:
Barbarian: -30 HP (29.5), -14 EN
TwinkleToes: -48 HP (50.5, KO), -18 EN


Post-Round Status
deadfox081


Barbarian the Nidoking
HP:
70
EN: 86
Stats: 4/2/4/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Life Orb
Abilities: Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force
Status: Healthy
Other:
Classical

TwinkleToes the Qwilfish
HP:
KOed
EN: KOed
Stats: 4/3/3/3/70 140
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: None
Abilities: Swift Swim, Rain Dish, Own Tempo
Status: KOed
Other:
FIELD: Rain (1 Round)​
HOW THINGS WIL HAPPEN IF YOU BOTH DON'T FIND ANY MISTAKES AND MAKE ME CORRECT THEM
Classical sends out, equips and orders.
deadfox081 orders.

I ref.
 
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tavok I think you might have done Rivalry wrong. Barbarian and TwinkleToes are both male so I get a +2 BAP buff but I forgot to Enable Sheer Force on send out so I don't get that boost. It looks as if you have had Rivalry take away 2 BAP but have given me Sheer Force active. My calculations have both Sludge Bomb and Megahorn doing 27.75 damage and Ludicollo getting KOed action 2, therefore only getting on successful Hydro Pump in.

Sludge Bomb: (9 [BAP] + 3 [STAB] + 3 [LO] + 2 [Rivalry] + 1.5 [Stat Diff])*1.5 = 27.75
Megahorn: (12 [BAP] + 3 [LO] + 2 [Rivalry] + 1.5 [Stat Diff])*1.5 = 27.75

27.75+27.75-2[a1 Rain Dish] = 53.5 = Dead Ludi

Let me know if I've messed up anywhere in this though
 
Yes, I completely messed up there. I did it as if Rivalry took away 2 BAP for same gender mons, for some strange reason. Will fix in a second.

EDIT: Fixed (I think).
 
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"I never really resort to RP bullshit, but this seems feasible. Okay Barbarian start off with a Fury Attack but make sure to aim each of the hits at a different target, with some luck I'm sure one is to hit the right one. Then just Flamethrower twice to roast the bug."

Fury Attack aim each hit at a different copy of Heracross > Flamethrower > Flamethrower
 
Fury Attack: The Pokémon unleashes a flurry of 2-5 quick strikes with its beak or horn, throwing the opponent off balance. It can disrupt an opponent's move that takes a while to charge up.

The nature of a fury attack requires you to be close to the opponent, having to change targets and move between them and refocus would render making more than one attack impossible
 
Realistically it was worth a shot and I am happy to run with any way Tavok wants to rule it. Not like I had a better option.
 
ROUND 7

I think it would not work for the reason Classical said.. but not that it would have mattered, since...

Pre-Round Status
deadfox081

Barbarian the Nidoking
HP:
70
EN: 86
Stats: 4/2/4/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Life Orb
Abilities: Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force
Status: Healthy
Other:
Classical

Lillian the Heracross
HP:
100
EN: 100
Stats: 6/3/1/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Exp. Share
Abilities: Guts, Swarm
Status: Healthy
Other:
FIELD: Rain (1 Round)​

Action 1
Lillian used Double Team (4 clones)!
Lillian created clones!
-16 EN

Barbarian used Fury Attack!!
Hit (<= 8500) = 8537: NO
But it missed!
-4 EN

Action 2
Lillian used Earthquake!
Crit (<= 625) = 2224: NO
(10 + 9 - 3) * 1.5 = 24 Dmg
-7 EN

Barbarian used Flamethrower!
Hit real (<= 2000) = 6665: NO
But it hit a clone!
-7 EN

Action 3
Lillian use Knock Off!
Crit (< 625) = 2854: NO
(10 + 9 - 3) = 16 Dmg
Barbarian's Life Orb fell!
-7 EN

Barbarian used Flamethrower!
Hit real (<= 2500) = 5167: NO
But it hit a clone!
-11 EN

The rain subdued!

Totals:
Barbarian: -40 HP, -22 EN
Lillian: -30 EN


Post-Round Status
deadfox081


Barbarian the Nidoking
HP:
30
EN: 64
Stats: 4/2/4/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Life Orb
Abilities: Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force
Status: Healthy
Other:
Classical

Lillian the Heracross
HP:
100
EN: 70
Stats: 6/3/1/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Exp. Share
Abilities: Guts, Swarm
Status: Healthy
Other: Double Team (2 clones)
FIELD: Nothing​
HOW THINGS WIL HAPPEN IF YOU BOTH DON'T FIND ANY MISTAKES AND MAKE ME CORRECT THEM
USER=85119]deadfox081[/USER] orders.
Classical orders.

I ref.
 
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"Might have been nice if something went our way there. In the mean time buy Sludge Wave!"

Endure > Flamethrower > Flamethrower
IF Heracross is underground when you would attack it THEN Earth Power

PS Tavok you should definitely have been rolling for Speed Ties that whole round, but it wouldn't actually have made a difference.
 
ROUND 8

That's what you get for doing things with haste: you don't notice both mons have the same speed.

Pre-Round Status
deadfox081

Barbarian the Nidoking
HP:
30
EN: 64
Stats: 4/2/4/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Life Orb
Abilities: Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force
Status: Healthy
Other:
Classical

Lillian the Heracross
HP:
100
EN: 70
Stats: 6/3/1/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Exp. Share
Abilities: Guts, Swarm
Status: Healthy
Other: Double Team (2 clones)
FIELD: Nothing​

Action 1
Barbarian used Endure!
Barbarian will brace all attacks!
-15 EN

Lillian chilled!
+12 EN

Action 2
Speed Tie!
Order roll (<=5000 Barbarian / 5000 => Lillian) = 7528: Lillian!

Lillian used Earthquake!
Crit (<= 625) = 4268: NO
(10 + 9 - 3) * 1.5 = 24 Dmg
-7 EN

Barbarian used Flamethrower!
Hit real (<= 3333) = 6912: NO
But it hit a clone!
-7 EN

Action 3
Speed Tie!
Order roll (<=5000 Barbarian / 5000 => Lillian) = 8105: Lillian!

Lillian chilled!
+12 EN

Barbarian used Flamethrower!
Hit real (<= 5000) = 4377: YES
Crit (<= 625) = 7705: NO
(9 + 6 - 4.5 + 2) = 18.75 Dmg
Burn (<= 1000) = 5642: NO
-11 EN

Totals:
Barbarian: -24 HP, -33 EN
Lillian: -19 HP (18.75), +17 EN


Post-Round Status
deadfox081


Barbarian the Nidoking
HP:
6
EN: 31
Stats: 4/2/4/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Life Orb
Abilities: Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force
Status: Healthy
Other:
Classical

Lillian the Heracross
HP:
81
EN: 87
Stats: 6/3/1/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Exp. Share
Abilities: Guts, Swarm
Status: Healthy
Other:
FIELD: Nothing​
HOW THINGS WIL HAPPEN IF YOU BOTH DON'T FIND ANY MISTAKES AND MAKE ME CORRECT THEM
Classical points out mistakes and orders.
USER=85119]deadfox081[/USER] points out more mistakes and orders.

I ref (making my fair share of mistakes).
 
Earthquake hits everyone on the field including Heracross' clones so him going first means all the clones are wiped and both my Flamethrowers hit the real target. It's basically like hitting your team mates with EQ/Surf in doubles
 
I thought the same, but I was told in IRC that it did not work like that. Feel free to get a second/third opinion, though.
 
In my opinion, the idea of hitting a clone is something that occurs that ruins the clones usefulness as you know it isn't me, but if three heracross all hit the ground at the same time you don't know who hit you. My focus is still making them so I don't see why it'd get rid of them.

Anyway
Feint*3
 
I have always played/reffed it that spread moves destroy clones, but I won't bother disputing it now and rather bring it up for discussion some time on other channels.


"Try to get one more hit in Barbarian."

Sucker Punch + Sucker Punch > Cool (Sucker Punch + Sucker Punch) > Sucker Punch + Sucker Punch
 
ROUND 9


Pre-Round Status
deadfox081

Barbarian the Nidoking
HP:
6
EN: 31
Stats: 4/2/4/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Life Orb
Abilities: Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force
Status: Healthy
Other:
Classical

Lillian the Heracross
HP:
81
EN: 87
Stats: 6/3/1/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Exp. Share
Abilities: Guts, Swarm
Status: Healthy
Other:
FIELD: Nothing​
Action 1
Barbarian used Super Sucker Punch!
Crit (<= 625) = 5216: NO
([8*2.25] + 6 - 4.5 + 2) * (2/3) = 14.3333 Dmg
-28 EN

Lillian used Feint!
Crit = Who cares
(4 + 9 - 3) = 10 Dmg O.o
Barbarian fainted!
-4 EN

Totals:
Barbarian: -6 HP (10, KO), -28 EN
Lillian: -14 HP (14.333), -4 EN


Post-Round Status
deadfox081


Barbarian the Nidoking
HP:
KOed
EN: KOed
Stats: 4/2/4/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Life Orb
Abilities: Poison Point, Rivalry, Sheer Force
Status: Healthy
Other:
Classical

Lillian the Heracross
HP:
67
EN: 83
Stats: 6/3/1/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Exp. Share
Abilities: Guts, Swarm
Status: Healthy
Other:
FIELD: Nothing​
HOW THINGS WIL HAPPEN IF YOU BOTH DON'T FIND ANY MISTAKES AND MAKE ME CORRECT THEM
USER=85119]deadfox081[/USER] sends out, points out mistakes, equips and orders.
Classical points out mistakes and orders.

I ref (making my fair share of mistakes).
 

"Well, this will be interesting. Beast will have a Lucky Egg to at least ensure Moxie gets unlocked and proceed cautiously."


Beast the Gyarados @ Lucky Egg

Taunt > Waterfall > Aqua Tail
IF Protect on action 1 THEN Dragon Dance and push actions back
IF Counter AND you are not to use Taunt THEN Hydro Pump
 
ROUND 10


Pre-Round Status
deadfox081

Beast the Gyarados
HP:
100
EN: 100
Stats: 5/3/2/3/94
Size and Weight: 6/6
Item: Lucky Egg
Abilities: Intimidate
Status: Healthy
Other: +10% accuracy
Classical

Lillian the Heracross
HP:
67
EN: 83
Stats: 6/3/1/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Exp. Share
Abilities: Guts, Swarm
Status: Healthy
Other:
FIELD: Nothing​
Action 1
Beast's Intimidate activated!
Lillian's Atk and natural Atk stage fell!

Beast used Taunt!
Lillian was taunted!
-10 EN

Lillian used Rock Blast!
Hit (<= 9000) = 828: YES
Roll for hits = 1: 3 hits.
Crit (<= 625) = 5286, 3243, 485: 1 Crit
(9 + 1 + 9 - 4.5) * 1.5 = 21.75 Dmg
-7 EN

Action 2
Beast used Waterfall!
Crit (<= 625) = 1012: NO
(8 + 3 + 7.5 - 4.5) = 14 Dmg
Flinch (<= 2000) = 5635: NO
-5 EN

Lillian used Rock Tomb!
Hit (<= 9500) = 9501: wow, I'd get mad if I were you...
But it missed!
-4 EN

Action 3
Beast used Aqua Tail!
Crit (<= 625) = 6087: NO
(9 + 3 + 7.5 - 4.5) = 15 Dmg
-6 EN

Lillian used Rock Blast!
Hit (<= 9000) = 42: YES
Roll for hits = 1: 3 hits.
Crit (<= 625) = 5355, 7893, 5181: NO
(9 + 9 - 4.5) * 1.5 - 2 = 18.25 Dmg
-7 EN

Totals:
Beast: -40 HP, -21 EN
Lillian: -29 HP, -18 EN


Post-Round Status
deadfox081


Beast the Gyarados
HP:
60
EN: 79
Stats: 5/3/2/3/94
Size and Weight: 6/6
Item: Lucky Egg
Abilities: Intimidate
Status: Healthy
Other: +10% accuracy
Classical

Lillian the Heracross
HP:
38
EN: 65
Stats: 6/3/1/3/85
Size and Weight: 3/4
Item: Exp. Share
Abilities: Guts, Swarm
Status: Healthy
Other: -1 Atk, -1 Natural Atk, Taunt (3A)
FIELD: Nothing​
HOW THINGS WIL HAPPEN IF YOU BOTH DON'T FIND ANY MISTAKES AND MAKE ME CORRECT THEM
Classical points out mistakes and orders.
deadfox081 points out mistakes and orders.

I ref (making my fair share of mistakes).
 
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