Pokémon Chansey

[The Shellder Smuggler]

252 Atk Choice Band Garchomp Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 324-382 (50.5 - 59.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 324-382 (46 - 54.2%) -- 53.1% chance to 2HKO

252 Atk Choice Band Garchomp Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 261-307 (37 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Garchomp Dragon Claw vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 261-307 (40.7 - 47.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 Atk Choice Band Garchomp Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weezing: 126-148 (37.7 - 44.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Black Sludge recovery
252 Atk Choice Band Garchomp Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-W: 135-160 (44.4 - 52.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Choice Band Garchomp Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 169-201 (55.5 - 66.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

The 252 HP on Chansey makes a pretty big difference when you use Chansey as a mixed-tank. Its true purpose is stopping Special Attackers, but do not forget the absolutely huge amount of defense it gets. 252 / 252+ Chansey has approximately the bulk of a Weezing (a pretty good RU wall), and is far-and-above 252/252 Rotom-W and Sableye(premier OU physical walls... but because of Volt Switch, Typing and Levitate)

Do I have permission to use these calcs in my thread?

EDIT: Apologies for my 1st generation chansey comment, edited. Counter has been added to the OP.

 

[Durant]

125 special? I thought 35, huh.

Nope 125 so it could do more than seismic toss damage.

 

[The Shellder Smuggler]

Nope 125 so it could do more than seismic toss damage.

Thanks a bunch :]

 

[Dragontamer]

Do I have permission to use these calcs in my thread?

EDIT: Apologies for my 1st generation chansey comment, edited. Counter has been added to the OP.

Sure, go on ahead. I recommend you play with them yourself. It helps to understand the numbers on your own: http://pokemonshowdown.com/damagecalc/

And if you're feeling adventurous, checkout my Skarmcents / Blisscents calculations in my signature.

 

[dkkc19]

Counter's also good but has a pretty high risk on getting your Chansey into trouble. Well, It's true that Counter's a good move for Chansey but I think it will not be that helpful if Chansey's got 1HKO'd by a physical attack. It's also useless against Psyshock users and Physical Ghost Pokemon like Sacred Sword Aegislash. Seismic Toss' a play safe move for Chansey but Counter really gives a lot of stakes in battle.

It's really hard to 1hko Chansey, unless its hit by a really powerful physical fighting move like High Jump Kick or Focus Punch.

252+ Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 378-446 (53.6 - 63.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Mega Garchomp Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 318-375 (45.1 - 53.2%) -- 33.2% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 372-438 (52.8 - 62.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 582-686 (82.6 - 97.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[Hidious]

Nope 125 so it could do more than seismic toss damage.

It was actually 105 (Same as SpD is now.)

 

[Hail Magikarp]

A few calcs i believe are important

252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 318-376 (45.1 - 53.4%) -- 35.5% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Scizor Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 570-672 (80.9 - 95.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Mamoswine Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 357-420 (50.7 - 59.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Mamoswine Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 570-672 (80.9 - 95.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

As opposed to 4 hp evs


252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Sacred Sword vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 318-376 (49.5 - 58.5%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Scizor Superpower vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 570-672 (88.7 - 104.6%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Mamoswine Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 357-420 (55.6 - 65.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Mamoswine Superpower vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 570-672 (88.7 - 104.6%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

So yeah saying that Chansey doesent need 252 HP evs is absolutly not true. It absolutly needs it to increase its longevity

 

[The Shellder Smuggler]

A few calcs i believe are important

252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 318-376 (45.1 - 53.4%) -- 35.5% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Scizor Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 570-672 (80.9 - 95.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Mamoswine Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 357-420 (50.7 - 59.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Mamoswine Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 570-672 (80.9 - 95.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

As opposed to 4 hp evs


252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Sacred Sword vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 318-376 (49.5 - 58.5%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Scizor Superpower vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 570-672 (88.7 - 104.6%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Mamoswine Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 357-420 (55.6 - 65.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Mamoswine Superpower vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 570-672 (88.7 - 104.6%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

So yeah saying that Chansey doesent need 252 HP evs is absolutly not true. It absolutly needs it to increase its longevity

Sure, go on ahead. I recommend you play with them yourself. It helps to understand the numbers on your own: http://pokemonshowdown.com/damagecalc/

And if you're feeling adventurous, checkout my Skarmcents / Blisscents calculations in my signature.

Thanks, this calcs will go on the thread. :]

 

[bobbyvaporeon]

I knew that, I just was trying to emphasize a point :] In other words, the 1st gen chansey can't even fart on eviolite chansey :]

Are you kidding? Chansey was bar none the best pokemon in RBY other than maybe Tauros. Today's Chansey is crap compared to ten.

 

[The Shellder Smuggler]

Are you kidding? Chansey was bar none the best pokemon in RBY other than maybe Tauros. Today's Chansey is crap compared to ten.

Lol yeah, I just figured that out after I learned it had 105 special instead of 35 :] I is not retarded, believe me

 

[DC-Shadow_Blaze]

I think the only relevant support option left unstated is Gravity. While it seems rather gimmicky, Gravity can serve as a reasonable fourth move on a soft boiled set, and support a number of Chansey's most popular teammates, most notably Landorus-I/T.

The incorporation of Gravity into Chansey's set can take some set-up pressure off of Sheer Force Landorus, often a team's only gravity setter, but rarely the only beneficiary. This addition to the blob allows Lando to focus on doling out damage/setting rocks/boosting once switched in.

This combination pairs well with several OU mainstays, including Aegislash (who enjoys a Head Smash buff), Keldeo (patched accuracy for hydro pump) and Kyurem-B (an uncanny ability of forcing switches, and causing pain under a sub).

Incorporating Sticky Web through Galvantula, or a hazard stacking Deo-D takes full advantage of this strategy.

At the end of the day, it is worth a shot.

 

[The Shellder Smuggler]

Chansey

I think the only relevant support option left unstated is Gravity. While it seems rather gimmicky, Gravity can serve as a reasonable fourth move on a soft boiled set, and support a number of Chansey's most popular teammates, most notably Landorus-I/T.

The incorporation of Gravity into Chansey's set can take some set-up pressure off of Sheer Force Landorus, often a team's only gravity setter, but rarely the only beneficiary. This addition to the blob allows Lando to focus on doling out damage/setting rocks/boosting once switched in.

This combination pairs well with several OU mainstays, including Aegislash (who enjoys a Head Smash buff), Keldeo (patched accuracy for hydro pump) and Kyurem-B (an uncanny ability of forcing switches, and causing pain under a sub).

Incorporating Sticky Web through Galvantula, or a hazard stacking Deo-D takes full advantage of this strategy.

At the end of the day, it is worth a shot.

It could work, I could slash it with counter and toxic on the team support set.

 

[HAKR]

I is not retarded, believe me

 

[The Shellder Smuggler]

Have you never seen anyone joke like that before?

 

[malomyotismon]

so much mutation of facts , uhhhhh.

 

[The Shellder Smuggler]

so much mutation of facts , uhhhhh.

That's already been posted before. And being fair, there isn't many mistakes other than those that stand out.

EDIT: I'm unwatching this thread. Anything that needs to be complained about can be PM'd to me.

 

[malomyotismon]

That's already been posted before. And being fair, there isn't many mistakes other than those that stand out.

yet i still read the line -"was worthless in 1st gen", which has been mentioned to be true and the thread is littered with silly comments. The issues with this thread have not been fully fixed and should have been.

 

[ShadowMarioGalaxy64]

This thread didn't just give you Cancer...the thread IS Cancer...

The wrong people commenting on a thread that needs significant work to remove the bad-ness.

 

[Flan76]

Wish + Softboiled is much better on Chansey than Wish + Protect, due to the fact that people can take advantage of protect and set up or switch, and softboiled gives you much more reliable recovery. Wish Protect sucks on chansey, dont use it. Also, Chansey completely outclasses Blissey and it's an outrage that chansey is used less than blissey.