Valzy
Destroyer of Worlds
How are you going to switch in Weavile?252 Atk Refrigerate Weavile Fake Out vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Dragonite: 336-400 (103.7 - 123.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
How are you going to switch in Weavile?252 Atk Refrigerate Weavile Fake Out vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Dragonite: 336-400 (103.7 - 123.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
sash it and your goldenHow are you going to switch in Weavile?
It's a good idea but first of all use black sludge second of all unlike in balanced hackmons where gengar can use this to get of a free shell smash in regular metagames gengar doesn't even get nasty plot (WTH gamefreak) so the only thing you can do on the switch is burn em set up a sub for sub disable or toxic if you feeling ballsy.something totally untested but:
Gengar@Leftovers
Normalize
Timid
4hp/252Spa /252 speed
-Skill swap
-Shadow ball
-Focus Blast
-Substitute/Hypnosis/Dazzling Gleam/Hidden power (fire)/etc.
skill swap normalize onto the opponent slower than you and get a free turn. seems fun <3
*replace Gengar with Mismagius for nasty plot set*It's a good idea but first of all use black sludge second of all unlike in balanced hackmons where gengar can use this to get of a free shell smash in regular metagames gengar doesn't even get nasty plot (WTH gamefreak) so the only thing you can do on the switch is burn em set up a sub for sub disable or toxic if you feeling ballsy.
I use that exact set on my team and although I didn't build it around Weavile, it, alongside Aerilate Noivern, has put in the most work. It is hardwalled by most bulky waters, however.edit Jaguar360 interesting set but just wondering what does Dark Pulse hit?
Wailord is far too slow to use Specs Water Spout and there are better options for Drizzle Pokemon, for example Greninja or Keldeo. Even if they are slightly less powerful they hit hard and fast enough to make up for it.
Also don't get the hype for Pansage, it sounds a lot like a waste and only to be used for fun teams. After all it's stopped cold by status or Taunt Pokemon (Taunt Pansage risks getting hit by an attack), priority Pokemon, Weavile, Magic Bounce / Guard Pokemon, and all Grass-types. I'd much rather use a Pokemon that helps my team cover up other threats than some Leech Seed staller that can't actually stall very effectively.
Also, even if I were to use Pansage, it should probably run max Speed to beat opposing Pansage's Taunt. In addition, TeamSpaceBird's set uses Nature Power, but what's the point?
ok let's make this post more useful and talk about more threats
Weavile @ Life Orb
Trait: Refridgerate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out
- Quick Attack
- Frustration
- Knock Off
Return can also be used but I like messing with Ditto :)
This guy has been the MVP for many of my matches, and I'm surprised nobody talked about it (bar Oi's mention of it after Kyub's ban). Fake Out + Quick Attack is a potent revenge killing combo and with Refridgerate boosts they actually do quite a number. Frustration is (very) powerful STAB and Knock Off is Knock Off, preventing stuff like Metagross or Cresselia from dumping on you (you'll need to hit the former on the switch tho). Ice + Dark forms pretty good coverage together, both being fantastic offensive types, and Weavile's power makes up for whatever it misses out on (eg. Frustration 2HKOes Bisharp iirc). Fake Out + Quick Attack as Ice-type moves keep so many things in check; it prevents Landorus-T, Dragonite, Thundurus-T and Noivern from sweeping you freely, as well as picking off threats from slightly more than half HP. The fact that Fake Out is basically free damage means we've essentially got a base 104 power Ice-type priority move without factoring STAB, and if you think about it it's scary as hell. Now add on to the fact that Weavile's two other moves are extremely spammable; Frustration will wreck anything that doesn't resist it with base 132 power before STAB, while nothing wants to switch into a powerful Knock Off and have their item removed. Ladies and gentlemen, we've got a monster.
Of course, there are checks to this thing. Keldeo is probably a safe bet as it resists both STAB moves and isn't too difficult to fit in. Metagross can switch into anything but Knock Off and Bullet Punch Weavile to death, ditto for bulky Scizor, and they both can recover the damage from multiple Frustrations. idk what else tbh, my teams rely a lot on checking it and not hard countering it, ie. Steel-types or just revenge killers.
How do you guys deal with Weavile?
kill it with weavile or other. DUH. But, I should probably add that to the counters list.How are you going to switch in Weavile?
Or just use it to revenge kill.sash it and your golden
They keep their original ability, as in they get the ability they're actually supposed to have.This may be a noob question, but how does megas work?
Moxie as well.They keep their original ability, as in they get the ability they're actually supposed to have.
So a good strategy is using an ability that works on the switch-in, for example Download or Intimidate. Maybe Magic Guard/Bounce?
They keep their original ability, as in they get the ability they're actually supposed to have.
So a good strategy is using an ability that works on the switch-in, for example Download or Intimidate. Maybe Magic Guard/Bounce?
Defiant/Competitive works too.Moxie as well.
I would use Infestation instead of Mean Look because it traps as well as inflicting residual damage. And if you want to use skill swap, try Normailze, not Truant.DusclopsOP:
Dusclops@Eviolite
Ability:Truant
EVs:252 HP 128 Def 128 Sp.Def
Careful Nature(or any defensive nature which does not lower the other Defense stat)
-Skill Swap
-Mean Look
-Curse
-Pain Split
Im surprised ive never seen anyone suggesting or even using this set(If someone has, sorry) Anyways Mean Look the opponent, Skill Swap them truant, Pain Split, if they damaged you a lot and Curse them. It KOs everything! EDIT: If they dont have taunt or their ability is not illusion
I like Illusion to set up a boosting move while potentially forcing enemies out.Defiant/Competitive works too.
Instead of T-Wave, try Curse. It will power up Gyro Ball, while T-Wave will just weaken it.(Ferrothorn) @ Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Thunder Wave
- Gyro Ball
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes
The bulk is fucking unreal.
Tried that on my joke team account.Ultimate mindgames: run a whole team of pokemon with illusion