UU Snorlax

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Snorlax

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Overview
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Snorlax's fantastic base 160 HP, great base 110 Special Defense, and strong base 110 Attack are what make it really shine. While its base 65 Defense isn't too great, Snorlax's enormous HP makes up for it. Moreover, Snorlax has a good defensive typing and a great ability in Thick Fat, which gives it resistances to Ice- and Fire-type moves. Snorlax also has a great movepool that includes moves such as Earthquake, Curse, the elemental punches, Whirlwind, Crunch, and Pursuit. Unfortunately, Snorlax is extremely slow, with only base 30 Speed. Snorlax is also crushed by common physical threats, particularly powerful Fighting-types such as Mienshao and Infernape.

CurseLax
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name: CurseLax
move 1: Curse
move 2: Body Slam
move 3: Rest
move 4: Crunch / Sleep Talk / Earthquake
ability: Thick Fat
evs: 144 HP / 188 Def / 176 SpD
item: Leftovers
nature: Careful

Moves
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Curse boosts Snorlax's Attack and Defense, turning it into a boosting tank. Snorlax can also perform a sweep after a few boosts late-game. Body Slam is preferred over Return on this set, as the chance for paralysis can aid in additional setup. Rest gives Snorlax the chance to heal status, recover HP, and continue setting up or coming in throughout the match. Crunch allows Snorlax to hit Cofagrigus, Slowbro, and Mew, all of which are a pain for it to deal with. Sleep Talk lets Snorlax spread paralysis even while asleep, making it less likely to become setup fodder for opposing Pokemon. Earthquake is an option to hit Steel- and Rock-types hard, as both resist Body Slam. Whirlwind can be used to let Snorlax phaze and cause entry hazard damage to accumulate on the other team.

Set Details
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This is the classic CurseLax set that has been used since GSC. Thick Fat is the preferred ability due to the benefits of having two extra resistances; Immunity is useless, as Rest already cures Snorlax of all status. The EVs let Snorlax survive two Choice Band V-Creates from Jolly Victini after Stealth Rock. They also bolster Snorlax's Special Defense, letting it comfortably survive strong special attacks such as Hydreigon's Draco Meteor. Leftovers is the item of choice to provide Snorlax with additional recovery.

Usage Tips
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Use this set to wall most special attackers. At the beginning of the match, identify what stops Snorlax from setting up; this includes Pokemon with powerful Fighting-type moves, such as Infernape and Mienshao, and Pokemon with phazing moves. Figure out how to get rid of these Pokemon without weakening Snorlax. Also identify a Pokemon or two that Snorlax can set up on; anything that relies on Toxic or weak Special Attacks is included here. Try to keep Snorlax's HP topped off with Rest so that you can switch it in later in the match. Snorlax can also be used at multiple points throughout the game. For example, it might not sweep the first time it starts setting up Curse, instead luring out a Roar user and nailing it with a powerful attack. This would make way for Snorlax to come in later in the game and repeat the process.

Team Options
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This variant of Snorlax needs something to deal with powerful Fighting-types, which will be able to KO it regardless of boosts. Florges is therefore a good teammate. Bulky Ghost-types also have good synergy with Snorlax, so something like Cofagrigus can work by burning threatening Fighting-types, allowing Snorlax to set up on them. Mew is another great partner for this reason. CurseLax also works extremely well in conjunction with Toxic Spikes, which Poison-types such as Roserade can set up. Nidoqueen is also a great teammate, because she takes physical Fighting-type moves with ease and can set up both Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock. Walls are the most likely to carry a phazing move, so weakening them with powerful wallbreakers such as Hydreigon and Heracross is greatly appreciated. Be aware that Hydreigon compounds Snorlax's Fighting-type weakness.

Assault Vest
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name: Assault Vest
move 1: Return / Body Slam
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Crunch / Fire Punch
move 4: Pursuit
ability: Thick Fat
evs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 SpD
item: Assault Vest
nature: Adamant

Moves
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Return is used for maximum damage output. Body Slam can be used for its 30% chance of paralysis, at the expense of power. Earthquake is used for coverage against Rock- and Steel-types. Crunch covers Ghost- and Psychic-types, although many of them carry Will-O-Wisp. Fire Punch is another option to hit Steel-types, and it hits Grass-types harder than Body Slam. Pursuit is a staple of the set, allowing Snorlax to trap dangerous Ghost-types such as Chandelure. If you are afraid of status effects, Facade can be used over a coverage or STAB move. Facade ignores a burn's Attack drop and allows for an extremely powerful 140 BP STAB move with the drawback of being extremely weak before status. Gunk Shot is another option, allowing Snorlax to decimate Florges and make it very difficult for it to Wish + Protect stall.

Set Details
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Thick Fat grants Snorlax two extra resistances, allowing it to comfortably tank hits. The EV spread allows for good physical bulk while giving Snorlax an offensive presence. As Snorlax's HP stat is so large already, investing in HP results in diminishing returns. 252 Defense EVs allow Snorlax to always survive Adamant Honchkrow's Superpower before Stealth Rock and Jolly Honchkrow's Superpower after Stealth Rock. An Assault Vest makes Snorlax extremely bulky on the Special side, bolstering its already good Special Defense. An Adamant nature is used for maximum power.

Usage Tips
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Assault Vest Snorlax is a set that can be used early-game in order to check special attackers, but without Wish support it will rarely make it into late-game, so don't rely on Snorlax taking repeated special hits throughout the entirety of a battle. It should also be used as more of a pivot than an all-out attacker. This Snorlax excels at coming in on special attackers and forcing them out with its good offensive presence. Therefore, double switching can be a powerful tool in order to gain favorable matchups for your teammates. Also, even though Snorlax does have 252 Defense EVs, it should by no means be coming in on strong physical hits, as that will more than likely spell the end for Snorlax. Knock Off should also be avoided at all costs as an item-less Snorlax is almost useless, especially when it lacks a recovery move.

Team Options
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Wish support is greatly appreciated for this set, as Snorlax has no recovery whatsoever. Florges fits the bill, dealing with Fighting-types, providing Wish support, and healing potential burns from Will-O-Wisp and Scald. Entry hazards will help to punish your opponent, as Snorlax can force many Pokemon out. Mew, Roserade, and Nidoqueen are all good examples of Pokemon that can set up entry hazards and help cover Snorlax's weakness to Fighting-type moves. Because Snorlax is very bulky on the special side, Pokemon that are threatened by strong special attackers appreciate its help.

Offensive
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name: Offensive
move 1: Return / Body Slam
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Pursuit
move 4: Crunch / Fire Punch
ability: Thick Fat
item: Choice Band / Leftovers
evs: 252 Atk / 52 Def / 200 SpD / 4 Spe
nature: Adamant

Moves
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Return is the most powerful move on the set, although Body Slam can be used if its 30% chance of paralysis is appealing. Earthquake allows Snorlax to nail potential Aggron switch-ins and hit Steel- and Rock-types that resist its STAB move. Pursuit is used to trap annoying Ghost-types, particularly Chandelure and Mismagius. Crunch allows for a huge chunk of health to be taken out of Mew and Celebi, while Fire Punch allows Snorlax to destroy Escavalier, Abomasnow, and the aforementioned Celebi. With a Choice Band equipped, Self-Destruct is another viable option, allowing for an OHKO against defensive Slowbro after Stealth Rock 62.5% of the time. Facade is an option that can be used over a coverage or STAB move. The nice thing about Facade is that it ignores a burn's Attack drop and gives Snorlax an extremely powerful STAB move at 140 Base Power, at the cost of being very weak before status, with only 70 Base Power. Gunk Shot is another option, as with a Choice Band equipped, it allows Snorlax to OHKO defensive Florges after Stealth Rock.

Set Details
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Thick Fat provides useful resistances to Ice- and Fire-type moves, allowing Snorlax to be an effective check to Pokemon such as Chandelure. An investment of 200 Special Defense EVs is used as it significantly buffs Snorlax's Special Defense. Similarly, the 52 Defense EVs add notable defensive bulk. A Choice Band allows for massive power, giving Snorlax a chance to 2HKO Donphan with only a single layer of Spikes on the field. Leftovers can be used for passive recovery, allowing Snorlax to be a more reliable switch-in later into the match. An EV spread of 252 Atk / 88 Def / 172 SpD can be used with Leftovers to avoid the 2HKO from Crobat's Brave Bird after Stealth Rock. An Assault Vest can be used to further bolster Snorlax's great Special Defense and bluff a Choice Band set, but it causes Snorlax to lose out significantly on power.

Usage Tips
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Return is the move to be used most often, as it hits like a truck, especially with a Choice Band boost. Snorlax is a great switch-in to Chandelure because it can safely use Pursuit against it. Utilize Pursuit to trap specially based Pokemon that are threats to the rest of your team.

Team Options
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Anything that benefits from the removal of troublesome Ghost-types will appreciate having Snorlax on the team; Fighting-types such as Mienshao deserve a special mention. Setup sweepers, such as Calm Mind Slowbro and Swords Dance Lucario, really appreciate Snorlax's ability to cripple opposing walls, allowing them to sweep. Bulky Pokemon that can take on Fighting-types are appreciated by Snorlax, including Slowbro, Nidoqueen, Cofagrigus, and Florges.

Other Options
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Snorlax has a wide special movepool consisting of moves such as Hyper Voice, Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Focus Blast, and Surf, but it unfortunately lacks the the Special Attack to use such a set. Counter can be used to abuse Physical attackers who would try to wear Snorlax down, but it is suboptimal due to Snorlax's already good offensive presence. Toxic and Yawn can be used to force switches and spread status throughout the opposition. Belly Drum can be used to boost Snorlax's Attack stat to extreme levels, but it leaves Snorlax vulnerable to revenge killing, as its Speed stat is atrocious. Block can be used to trap Pokemon that cannot hurt Snorlax so that Snorlax can easily set up. However, this usually requires too many moveslots and is generally not viable. Seed Bomb can be used to nuke Rhyperior and Swampert. Double-Edge is a STAB option for additional power on offensive sets, but the recoil it causes can be a problem. Brick Break, Superpower, and Focus Punch all provide Fighting-type coverage which can be useful to deal with Rock- and Steel-types.

Checks & Counters
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**Fighting-types**: Physically based Fighting-type Pokemon like Infernape and Mienshao are huge threats to Snorlax. Not only do their strong STAB moves do super effective damage, but Snorlax's lack of physical bulk leaves it even more susceptible to these attacks.

**Ghost-types**: Ghost-types in general are a huge problem for Snorlax if it doesn't have Crunch. Sableye counters all of Snorlax's sets thanks to Taunt and Will-O-Wisp, and it is hit for neutral damage by Crunch.

**Steel- and Rock-types**: Steel- and Rock-types are a huge pain for Snorlax if Earthquake is not used. Not only are most Steel- and Rock-types physical attackers, they also resist Snorlax's STAB moves. Mega Aggron is a huge problem even if Snorlax does have Earthquake.
 
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I don't like the Offensive CurseLax set. I don't think this is the meta for it anymore, as Chandy isn't ruling the tier. Change that to defensive curselax, mentioning the analysis from BW but give mention in the set details that full out SpDef can be used if needed. Also change the thread title to QC if you want more opinions
 

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Removed both the Offensive CurseLax set and the RestTalk set, and made a new set named Defensive CurseLax, thanks Meru! I have also fixed Checks & Counters, so Snorlax is now ready for QC checks I think. :)
 
Ok 3rd checkin' time

-First and foremost, change the ordering of these sets. It should go Defensive Curselax, AV, Offensive as this lists them in the order I think is most viable in the metagame
-In the offensive set, the mention of +1 Kingdra? I can tell this is a bit of a c/p job from the gen 5 analysis because Kingdra is hardly seen so rather change it to say 200 SpD is placed as it more significantly buffs Snorlax's Special Defense than if the EVs were placed in HP. Similarly the 52 def evs just add a bit more noticeable defensive bulk than if it were just made Max HP / Max Attack.
-Also in team options that wallbreakers are there to be used in conjunction with ----> SD sweepers, Special Sweepers etc since that's basically the role of Snorlax (to wallbreak)
-In Curselax set, I think that Sleep talk should go before Earthquake since Steel types (the majority are going to be hit similarly hard by Crunch) and Rock-types in UU include a very extensive list of Aerodactyl and that isn't even hit by EQ. Sleep talk basically means Snorlax isn't dead weight for 2 turns and can allow Snorlax to come in while asleep and start boosting instead of having to come in and burn a turn of sleep before waking up
-Also in Curselax, change the mention of 'Hydreigon's Focus Blast' to 'Hydreigon's Draco Meteor' since a) Hydra doesn't run Focus Blast and b) Hydra's DM is one of the benchmark special hits that Snorlax should be able to comfortably hit
-In usage for Curselax, mention that Snorlax can be used effectively throughout a game, like it might not necessarily sweep the first time it starts cursing and rather does it as a way to coax out the Roar users or whatever and be able to nail them with a powerful attack essentially paving the way for Snorlax to come in later in the game and repeat the process
-Completely change the mention of Roserade in Team options to reflect that Curselax works extremely well in conjunction with Toxic Spikes which Roserade (among other Poison-types) can set up. Roserade has terrible Physical Defense and can't tank any Physical Fighting attacks being thrown at Snorlax. Pokemon like Nidoqueen work really well cause Nidoqueen has great Defensive typing and can set up hazards in order to aid Snorlax in it's goal of sweeping
-Usage tips for AV Snorlax should include that Snorlax finds it's uses early game similarly to the CB set but takes hits far better allowing it to have increased longevity at a reduction of power. So basically usage should mention that this is a set that can be used early game in order to check Special attacks but without Wish support will rarely make it into the late game so you don't want to rely on Snorlax to be taking all Special hits through the entirety of a battle.
-In usage you also want to emphasize that even though it does have 252 Def EVs, Snorlax by no means should be coming in on strong Physical hits since that will more than likely spell the end for Snorlax. Also Knock Off should be avoided at all costs since an itemless Snorlax is essentially useless when it doesn't have reliable recovery anymore (rest, lefties w/e) and also doesn't have that increased Spdef boost from AV
-Team options of AV, wish support is appreciated because it has no passive recovery since AV is the chosen item so change that sentence cause it doesn't really make sense how it stands there

Sorry, there's a bunch to change but once you get through all of that, VM me or something and I'll check it over once more before giving QC 3/3 :toast:
 

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Overview
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Snorlax, maybe the biggest threat in BW UU, is still very viable in XY. It's fantastic base 160 HP coupled with a great base 110 Special Defense and a strong base 110 Attack is what makes Snorlax really shine. While a 65 base Defense isn't too great, Snorlax's enormous base 160 HP makes up for it. Moreover, Snorlax has a good defensive typing and a great ability in Thick Fat, which gives Snorlax two resistances, against Ice and Fire. Snorlax also has access to a great movepool including moves such as Earthquake, Curse, the elemental punches, Superpower, Whirlwind, Crunch, Pursuit, Brick Break,(AC) and Belly Drum. Unfortunately, Snorlax is extremely slow, with only base 30 Speed. Snorlax is also crushed by common physical threats, particularly powerful Fighting-types like Mienshao and Infernape.

Defensive CurseLax
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name: Defensive CurseLax
move 1: Curse
move 2: Body Slam
move 3: Rest
move 4: Crunch / Sleep Talk / Earthquake
ability: Thick Fat
evs: 144 HP / 188 Def / 176 SpD
item: Leftovers
nature: Careful

Moves
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Curse is the main part of this set, and boosts Snorlax Attack and Defense, making Snorlax a boosting tank. Snorlax can also perform a sweep after a few boosts late-game. Body Slam is preferred for this set, as the chance for paralysis can aid in additional setup. Rest gives Snorlax the chance to heal status, recover HP, and continue setting up and coming in throughout the match. Crunch allows Snorlax to hit Cofagrigus, Slowbro, and Mew, all of which are a pain to deal with even with Crunch. Sleep Talk lets Snorlax spread paralysis even while being asleep, making him less vulnerable to become a setup fodder for opposing Pokemon. Earthquake is a option to hit Steel- and Rock-types hard, as both resisting Body Slam. Whirlwind can be used to let Snorlax phaze and accumulatecause entry hazards damage for the restto accumulate on the f other team.

Set Details
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This is the classic Defensive CurseLax set that has been used since GSC OU. Thick Fat is the preferred ability due to the benefits of being granted with two extra resistances. Immunity is useless,(AC) seeing as Rest already cures Snorlax of all status. The following EV iss are used to let Snorlax live two Jolly Choice Banded V-Creates from Victini after Stealth Rock, while bolstering Snorlax Special Defense, letting it comfortably lsurvive hits like Hydreigon's Draco Meteor. Leftovers is the item of choice to supplement Snorlax's recovery even more.

Usage Tips
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Use this set to wall most Special attackers. At the beginning of the match, identify what stops Snorlax from setting up,;(SC) these include Pokemon with powerful Fighting-type moves such as Infernape and Mienshao, but alsoand Pokemon with phazing moves. Figure out how to get rid of these Pokemon without havweakening Snorlax gets weakened. Also identify a Pokemon or two that Snorlax can set up on, such as;(SC) anything that relies on Toxic or weak Special Attacks are included here. Try to keep yourself HP topped off with Rest so that you can switch in later in the match. Snorlax can also be used effectively throughout athe game, like. For example, it might not necessarily sweep the first time it starts setting up Curse, and ratherinstead doesing it as a way to lure out the Roar users and be able to nail them with a powerful attack, essentially making way for Snorlax to come in later in the game and repeat the process.

Team Options
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This set needs something to deal with powerful Fighting-types whoich will be able to killKO Snorlax regardless of boosts,. Florges is therefore a good optionteammate. Bulky Ghost-types also have good synergy with Snorlax, so something like Cofagrigus can work by burning threatening Fighting-types, allowing Snorlax to more easily set up on them. Mew is another great partner seeing as they have good synergyfor this reason. The CurseLax set also works extremely well in conjunction with Toxic Spikes,(AC) which Poison-types such as Roserade can set up. Nidoqueen is also a great teammate, because she takes physical Fighting-type moves with ease, and can also set up Toxic Spikes.(If I recall correctly, these are the only entry hazards Nidoqueen can use.) Bulky walls are the most likely to carry a phazing move, so weakening them with powerful wallbreakers are greatly appreciated, examples of these includesuch as Hydreigon and Heracross, is greatly appreciated. Be aware of that Hydreigon compounds a Fighting-type weakness.

Assault Vest
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name: Assault Vest
move 1: Return / Body Slam
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Crunch / Fire Punch
move 4: Pursuit
ability: Thick Fat
evs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 SpD
item: Assault Vest
nature: Adamant

Moves
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Return is used for maximum damage output. Body Slam can be used because of a 30% chance for paralysis, in returnat the expense of more power. Earthquake is used for coverage against Rock- and Steel-types. Crunch covers Ghost- and Psychic-types, although be aware that many of them carry Will-O-Wisp. Fire Punch is another option to hit Steel-types, andas it also hits Grass-types harder than Body Slam if you choose to go that route. Pursuit is a main staple of the set, allowing Snorlax to trap dangerous Ghost-types such as Chandelure. If afraid of status effects, Facade can be substituted over a coverage or STAB move. Facade ignores the burn effect and allows for an extremely powerful STAB move at 140 BP at the drawback of being extremely weak before status. Gunk Shot is another option, allowing Snorlax to decimate Florges and make it very difficult for it to Wish /+ Protect stall.

Set Details
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Thick Fat grants two extra resistances,(AC) allowing Snorlax to comfortably tank hits. The EV spread that is being used, allows for good physical bulk while making Snorlax an offensive presence. SinceAs Snorlax HP stat is so large already, investing in HP providesults a form ofin diminishing returns. 252 Defense EVs allow Snorlax to always live Adamant Honchkrow's Superpower before Stealth Rock,(RC) and Jolly Honchkrow's Superpower after Stealth Rock. Assault Vest makes Snorlax extremely bulky on the Special side, bolstering Snorlax's already good Special Defense. Adamant is used for maximum power.

Usage Tips
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Assault Vest Snorlax is a set that can be used early -game(Add hyphen) in order to check Special attacks, but without Wish support it will rarely make it into late -game(Add hyphen), so you don't want to rely on Snorlax to be taking all Special hits through the entirety of a battle. Also use this set as more of a pivot than the offensive set. This set excels at coming in on special attackers and forcing them out with Snorlax's good offensive presence. Therefore, double switching can be a powerful tool in order to gain favorable matchups for your teammates. Also, even though Snorlax does have 252 Defense EVs, Snorlax should by no means be coming in on strong physical hits,(AC) asince that will more than likely spell the end for Snorlax. Knock Off should also be avoided at all costs asince an item-less Snorlax is almost useless when it doesn't have reliable recovery anymore,(RC) and also loses the 1.5x Special Defense boost it gets from Assault Vest.

Team Options
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Wish support is greatly appreciated on this set, asince Snorlax has no passive recovery because of Assault Vest being used. Florges once again fits the bill, dealing with Fighting-types, providing Wish support, and healing potential burns from Will-O-Wisp and random Scalds. HEntry hazards will help to punish your opponent, asince Snorlax can force many Pokémon out. Mew, Roserade, and Nidoqueen are all good examples of Pokemon that can layset hazards and help cover Snorlax's weakness to Fighting-types. SincBecause Snorlax is very bulky on the Special side, Pokémon that are threatened out by strong special attackers appreciate Snorlax help.

Offensive
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name: Offensive
move 1: Return / Body Slam
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Pursuit
move 4: Crunch / Fire Punch
ability: Thick Fat
item: Choice Band / Leftovers
evs: 252 Atk / 52 Def / 200 SpD / 4 Spe
nature: Adamant

Moves
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Return is the most powerful move for the set, although Body Slam can be used if the 30% chance for paralysis is appealing, at the cost of some power. Earthquake allows Snorlax to nail potential Aggron switch-ins,(RC) and also hit Steel- and Rock-types that resist Snorlax STAB move hard. Pursuit is used to trap annoying Ghost-types, particularly Chandelure and Mismagius. Crunch allows for a huge chunk to be taken out of Mew and Celebi, however, Fire Punch allows Snorlax to destroy Escavalier, Abomasnow,(AC) and also Celebi. Especially with Choice Band equipped, Self-Destruct is another viable option, allowing for an OHKO 62.5% of the time against defensive Slowbro after Stealth Rock. Facade can be substituted over a coverage or STAB move, if you are afraid of status effects. Facade ignores the burn effect and allows for an extremely powerful STAB move at 140 Base Power, at the drawback of being extremely weak before status.(Yeah, rewrite this. You can't just Copy/Paste what you had written before.) Gunk Shot is another option, asince with a Choice Band equipped, it allows Snorlax to OHKO Defensive Florges after Stealth Rock.

Set Details
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Thick Fat provides useful resistances to Ice and Fire, which allows Snorlax to be an effective check to Pokemon such as Chandelure. 200 SpD is used asince it more significantly buffs Snorlax's Special Defense than if the EVs were placed in HP. Similarly, the 52 Defense EVs adds a bit more noticeable defensive bulk than if it were placed in HP. 4 Speed EVs allows Snorlax to beat Slowbro and hopefully avoid a burn from Scald. Choice Band allows for epic power with a chance to even 2HKO Donphan with only a single layer of Spikes on the field. Leftovers can be used for passive recovery, allowing Snorlax to be a more reliable switch in later into the match. If using Leftovers, a EV spread of 252 Atk / 88 Def / 172 SpD can be used to avoid the 2HKO for Crobat's Brave Bird after Stealth Rock. Assault Vest can be used to further bolster Snorlax great Special Defense and bluff a Choice Band set, but it loses out significantly on power.

Usage Tips
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Return is the move to be used most often if given a free move, since, as,(AC) especially with a Choice Band, it hits like a truck. Snorlax is a great switch-in to Chandelure and youbecause Snoralx can simply use Pursuit it no matter what it wants to do. Utilize Pursuit to trap Sspecially based Pokemon that are threats to the rest of your team.

Team Options
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Anything that benefits from the removal of troublesome Ghost-types will appreciate having Snorlax on the team,;(SC) Fighting-types such as Mienshao deserve a special mention. Set- up(No hyphen) sweepers, such as Calm Mine Slowbro or Swords Dance Lucario, really appreciate Snorlax's ability to cripple opposing walls, allowing them to sweep. Bulky Pokemon that can take on Fighting-types are appreciated by Snorlax, examples includeing Slowbro, Nidoqueen, Cofagrigus, and Florges.

Other Options
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Snorlax has a wide special movepool consisting of moves such as Hyper Voice, Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Focus Blast, and Surf, but unfortunately lacks the the Special Attack to use such a set, only having base 65 Special Attack. Counter can be used to abuse Physical attackers who would try to wear Snorlax down, but is ultimately it's useless due to Snorlax already good offensive presence. Toxic or Yawn can be used to force switches and spread status throughout the opposition. Belly Drum can be used to boost Snorlax attacking stat to extreme levels, but leaves him vulnerable to revenge killing,(AC) asince Snorlax's Speed stat is atrocious. Block could be used to trap a Pokémon that cannot hurt Snorlax and set up right in its faceso Snorlax can easily set up. However, this usually requires too many moveslots and is usually not viable. Seed Bomb can be used as a way to nuke Rhyperior and Swampert. Gunk Shot can also be used, asince it destroys Florges. Double-Edge is a option for additional power on offensive sets, but recoil can be a problem. Brick Break, Superpower, and Focus Punch all provide Fighting-type coverage which can be useful to deal with Rock- and Steel-types.

Checks & Counters
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**Fighting-types**: Physical Fighting-type Pokemon like Infernape and Mienshao,(RC) are a huge threat forto Snorlax. Not only does their super strong STAB moves in High Jump Kick and Close Combat do super effective damage, Snorlax isn't that's lack of physical bulky on the physical side leaves it even more susceptible to these attacks.

**Ghost-types**: Ghost-types in general are a huge problem for Snorlax if youit doesn't ushave Crunch. Sableye counters all of Snorlax's sets, because of Prankster Taunt and Will-O-Wisp, and Crunch only does neutral damage.

**Steel- and Rock-types**: Steel- and Rock-types are a huge pain if Earthquake areis not used. Not only are most Steel- and Rock-types physical, they also resist Snorlax's STAB moves. Especially Mega Aggron is a huge problem,(RC) even if you usSnorlax does have Earthquake.

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Just wanted to stop by to say that if there's not gonna be an Offensive CurseLax, there's really little point in calling the set 'Defensive' (since that gives an idea that an offensive variant is legit). I'd just call it either CurseLax or Classic CurseLax.
 

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Rewritten the Facade description on Offensive, didn't notice the original writer copypasted it. Also implemented the rest of course. Thanks Alphose!
 
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Overview
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Snorlax's fantastic base 160 HP, great base 110 Special Defense, and strong base 110 Attack are what make it really shine. While its base 65 Defense isn't too great, Snorlax's enormous HP makes up for it. Moreover, Snorlax has a good defensive typing and a great ability in Thick Fat, which gives it resistances to Ice- and Fire-type moves. Snorlax also has access to a great movepool that includes moves such as Earthquake, Curse, the elemental punches, Superpower, Whirlwind, Crunch, Pursuit, Brick Break, and Belly Drum (I wouldn't mention the moves that are only in OO). Unfortunately, Snorlax is extremely slow, with only base 30 Speed. Snorlax is also crushed by common physical threats, particularly powerful Fighting-types such as Mienshao and Infernape.

CurseLax
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name: CurseLax
move 1: Curse
move 2: Body Slam
move 3: Rest
move 4: Crunch / Sleep Talk / Earthquake
ability: Thick Fat
evs: 144 HP / 188 Def / 176 SpD
item: Leftovers
nature: Careful

Moves
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Curse boosts Snorlax's Attack and Defense, turning it into a boosting tank. Snorlax can also perform a sweep after a few boosts late-game. Body Slam is preferred over Return on this set, as the chance for paralysis can aid in additional setup. Rest gives Snorlax the chance to heal status, recover HP, and continue setting up or coming in throughout the match. Crunch allows Snorlax to hit Cofagrigus, Slowbro, and Mew, all of which are a pain for it to deal with even with Crunch. Sleep Talk lets Snorlax spread paralysis even while being asleep, making it less likely to become a setup fodder for opposing Pokemon. Earthquake is an option to hit Steel- and Rock-types hard, as both resist Body Slam. Whirlwind can be used to let Snorlax phaze and cause entry hazard damage to accumulate on the other team.

Set Details
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This is the classic Defensive CurseLax set that has been used since GSC OU. Thick Fat is the preferred ability due to the benefits of having two extra resistances; Immunity is useless, seeing as Rest already cures Snorlax of all status. The EVs are used to let Snorlax survive two Jolly Choice Band V-Creates from Jolly Victini after Stealth Rock. They also bolster Snorlax's Special Defense, letting it comfortably survive strong special attacks such as Hydreigon's Draco Meteor. Leftovers is the item of choice to provide Snorlax with additional recovery.

Usage Tips
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Use this set to wall most special attackers. At the beginning of the match, identify what stops Snorlax from setting up; this includes Pokemon with powerful Fighting-type moves, (AC) such as Infernape and Mienshao, (AC) and Pokemon with phazing moves. Figure out how to get rid of these Pokemon without weakening Snorlax (I recommend elaborating on this a bit). Also identify a Pokemon or two that Snorlax can set up on; anything that relies on Toxic or weak Special Attacks is included here. Try to keep Snorlax's HP topped off with Rest so that you can switch it in later in the match. Snorlax can also be used at multiple points throughout the game. For example, it might not necessarily sweep the first time it starts setting up Curse, instead luring out a Roar user and nailing it with a powerful attack. This would make way for Snorlax to come in later in the game and repeat the process.

Team Options
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This variant of Snorlax needs something to deal with powerful Fighting-types, (AC) which will be able to KO it regardless of boosts. Florges is therefore a good teammate. Bulky Ghost-types also have good synergy with Snorlax, so something like Cofagrigus can work by burning threatening Fighting-types, allowing Snorlax to more easily set up on them. Mew is another great partner for this reason. The CurseLax set also works extremely well in conjunction with Toxic Spikes, which Poison-types such as Roserade can set up. Nidoqueen is also a great teammate, because she takes physical Fighting-type moves with ease, (RC) and can set up both Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock. Bulky Walls are the most likely to carry a phazing move, so weakening them with powerful wallbreakers such as Hydreigon and Heracross, (RC) is greatly appreciated. Be aware of that Hydreigon compounds Snorlax's Fighting-type weakness.

Assault Vest
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name: Assault Vest
move 1: Return / Body Slam
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Crunch / Fire Punch
move 4: Pursuit
ability: Thick Fat
evs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 SpD
item: Assault Vest
nature: Adamant

Moves
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Return is used for maximum damage output. Body Slam can be used for its 30% chance of paralysis, at the expense of more power. Earthquake is used for coverage against Rock- and Steel-types. Crunch covers Ghost- and Psychic-types, although many of them carry Will-O-Wisp. Fire Punch is another option to hit Steel-types, and it also hits Grass-types harder than Body Slam. Pursuit is a main staple of the set, allowing Snorlax to trap dangerous Ghost-types such as Chandelure. If you are afraid of status effects, Facade can be used over a coverage or STAB move. Facade ignores a burn's Attack drop and allows for an extremely powerful 140 BP STAB move at 140 BP with the drawback of being extremely weak before status. Gunk Shot is another option, allowing Snorlax to decimate Florges and make it very difficult for it to Wish + Protect stall.

Set Details
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Thick Fat grants Snorlax two extra resistances, allowing it to comfortably tank hits. The EV spread allows for good physical bulk while giving Snorlax an offensive presence. As Snorlax's HP stat is so large already, investing in HP results in diminishing returns. 252 Defense EVs allow Snorlax to always survive Adamant Honchkrow's Superpower before Stealth Rock and Jolly Honchkrow's Superpower after Stealth Rock. An Assault Vest makes Snorlax extremely bulky on the Special side, bolstering its already good Special Defense. An Adamant nature is used for maximum power.

Usage Tips
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Assault Vest Snorlax is a set that can be used early-game in order to check special attackers, but without Wish support it will rarely make it into late-game, so don't rely on Snorlax taking repeated special hits throughout the entirety of a battle. It should also be used as more of a pivot than an all-out attacker. This Snorlax excels at coming in on special attackers and forcing them out with its good offensive presence. Therefore, double switching can be a powerful tool in order to gain favorable matchups for your teammates. Also, even though Snorlax does have 252 Defense EVs, it should by no means be coming in on strong physical hits, as that will more than likely spell the end for Snorlax. Knock Off should also be avoided at all costs as an item-less Snorlax is almost useless, especially when it lacks a recovery move.

Team Options
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Wish support is greatly appreciated for this set, as Snorlax has no passive recovery whatsoever. Florges fits the bill, dealing with Fighting-types, providing Wish support, and healing potential burns from Will-O-Wisp and Scald. Entry hazards will help to punish your opponent, as Snorlax can force many Pokemon out. Mew, Roserade, and Nidoqueen are all good examples of Pokemon that can set up entry hazards and help cover Snorlax's weakness to Fighting-type moves. Because Snorlax is very bulky on the special side, Pokemon that are threatened out by strong special attackers appreciate its help.

Offensive
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name: Offensive
move 1: Return / Body Slam
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Pursuit
move 4: Crunch / Fire Punch
ability: Thick Fat
item: Choice Band / Leftovers
evs: 252 Atk / 52 Def / 200 SpD / 4 Spe
nature: Adamant

Moves
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Return is the most powerful move on the set, although Body Slam can be used if its 30% chance of paralysis is appealing. Earthquake allows Snorlax to nail potential Aggron switch-ins and hit Steel- and Rock-types that resist its STAB move. Pursuit is used to trap annoying Ghost-types, particularly Chandelure and Mismagius. Crunch allows for a huge chunk of health to be taken out of Mew and Celebi, while Fire Punch allows Snorlax to destroy Escavalier, Abomasnow, and the aforementioned Celebi. With a Choice Band equipped, Self-Destruct is another viable option, allowing for an OHKO 62.5% of the time against defensive Slowbro after Stealth Rock 62.5% of the time. Facade is an option that can be used over a coverage or STAB move. The nice thing about Facade, (RC) is that it ignores a burn's Attack drop and gives Snorlax an extremely powerful STAB move at 140 Base Power, at the cost of being very weak before status, with only 70 Base Power. Gunk Shot is another option, as with a Choice Band equipped, it allows Snorlax to OHKO defensive Florges after Stealth Rock.

Set Details
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Thick Fat provides useful resistances to Ice- and Fire-type moves, allowing Snorlax to be an effective check to Pokemon such as Chandelure. An investment of 200 Special Defense EVs is used as it significantly buffs Snorlax's Special Defense. Similarly, the 52 Defense EVs add notable defensive bulk. 4 Speed EVs allow Snorlax to outspeed Slowbro and hopefully avoid a burn from Scald (I would remove the 4 Speed EVs altogether, since blatant speed creeping is forbidden in analyses lol). A Choice Band allows for massive power, (AC) giving Snorlax a chance to even 2HKO Donphan with only a single layer of Spikes on the field. Leftovers can be used for passive recovery, allowing Snorlax to be a more reliable switch-in later into the match. If using Leftovers, An EV spread of 252 Atk / 88 Def / 172 SpD can be used with Leftovers to avoid the 2HKO from Crobat's Brave Bird after Stealth Rock. An Assault Vest can be used to further bolster Snorlax's great Special Defense and bluff a Choice Band set, but it causes Snorlax to lose out significantly on power.

Usage Tips
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Return is the move to be used most often, as, especially with a Choice Band, it hits like a truck, especially with a Choice Band boost. Snorlax is a great switch-in to Chandelure because it can safely use Pursuit against it. Utilize Pursuit to trap specially based Pokemon that are threats to the rest of your team.

Team Options
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Anything that benefits from the removal of troublesome Ghost-types will appreciate having Snorlax on the team; Fighting-types such as Mienshao deserve a special mention. Setup sweepers, such as Calm Mind Slowbro and Swords Dance Lucario, really appreciate Snorlax's ability to cripple opposing walls, allowing them to sweep. Bulky Pokemon that can take on Fighting-types are appreciated by Snorlax, including Slowbro, Nidoqueen, Cofagrigus, and Florges.

Other Options
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Snorlax has a wide special movepool consisting of moves such as Hyper Voice, Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Focus Blast, and Surf, but it unfortunately lacks the the Special Attack to use such a set. Counter can be used to abuse Physical attackers who would try to wear Snorlax down, but it is suboptimal due to Snorlax's already good offensive presence. Toxic and Yawn can be used to force switches and spread status throughout the opposition. Belly Drum can be used to boost Snorlax's Attack stat to extreme levels, but it leaves Snorlax vulnerable to revenge killing, as its Speed stat is atrocious. Block can be used to trap Pokemon that cannot hurt Snorlax so that Snorlax can easily set up. However, this usually requires too many moveslots and is generally not viable. Seed Bomb can be used as a way to nuke Rhyperior and Swampert. Gunk Shot can also be used, as it destroys Florges. Double-Edge is a STAB option for additional power on offensive sets, but the recoil it causes can be a problem. Brick Break, Superpower, and Focus Punch all provide Fighting-type coverage which can be useful to deal with Rock- and Steel-types.

Checks & Counters
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**Fighting-types**: Physically based Fighting-type Pokemon like Infernape and Mienshao are huge threats to Snorlax. Not only do their strong STAB moves do super effective damage, but Snorlax's lack of physical bulk leaves it even more susceptible to these attacks.

**Ghost-types**: Ghost-types in general are a huge problem for Snorlax if it doesn't have Crunch. Sableye counters all of Snorlax's sets thanks to Prankster Taunt and Will-O-Wisp, and it is hit for neutral damage by Crunch.

**Steel- and Rock-types**: Steel- and Rock-types are a huge pain for Snorlax if Earthquake is not used. Not only are most Steel- and Rock-types physical attackers, they also resist Snorlax's STAB moves. Mega Aggron is a huge problem even if Snorlax does have Earthquake.
 
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