Doublade is not in the tie atm. Ferroseed is a nice counter if it does not run flamuethrower, so is Steelix. Defensive Rhydon can take a hit and phaze it out. Physically defensive metang can also serve as a niche stop, as it takes pitfull damage from Flamethrower and can 2hko back with meteor mash
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Welcome to NU Soulred12! hope you enjoy the tier. First of all Doublade is RU. To stop BD slurpuff you could use Probopass with thunderwave+Flashcannon. which completely blocks it. Rhydon,Golem,metang also do good against it.The second best way to stop BD slurpuff is not let him Setup, by weakening him by a strong STAB attack. You could always phaze him and prevent sweep.
Answer to your last question: Slurpuff is very much likely to be suspected because it is versatile and has many sets to run. With cottonguard BD calmmind its hard to deal with
Probopass @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Flash Cannon
- Stealth Rock
- Volt Switch/Power gem
Answer to your last question: Slurpuff is very much likely to be suspected because it is versatile and has many sets to run. With cottonguard BD calmmind its hard to deal with
Probopass @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Flash Cannon
- Stealth Rock
- Volt Switch/Power gem
NotHyunation Yellow Cheese Assassin Rogue Thanks to you all! I think I will try running Probopass or Rhydon.
Just be aware that if you switch in a probopass or Rhydon in on a specially based Slurpuff with surf they are gonna get beat or take a lot of damage.
CanadianWifier
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Highly doubt this for a few reasons. First off, Slurpuff is not that hard to prepare for, between the 3 of you you named of half-a-dozen counters to the BD set from the top of your head. The second main reason, is it just isn't broken. It's versatility doesn't push it over the edge unlike other pokemon (like Mega-Luc / Zoroark) it just makes it a very good mon. Half the time you can extrapolate whether the opponent would be running physical/special from the structure of their team, and even if you can't, there are still sound switch-ins to both sets (Probo, Bibarel, Muk). It may be a really good mon, and hell it might even be suspected eventually, but I don't think it needs it tbh. :)
Also SoulRed12, grats on 666 posts :^)
I could see Slurpuff getting suspected just because of the fact that a different counter is required for each different set. It is similar to the suspect test in OU for Mega Lucario (or so I've been told). I think Slurpuff is a top tier threat and while it has many checks it still can get off the sweep more often than not. It might be a while however before a suspect test happens for it though.
Lol, thank you for screening that :D I saved the pic to my comp.
That sounds like the arguments people have been tossing around recently in favor of banning Aegislash from OU. Not that it's necessarily significant, I'm js.
What are some instant reactions to Shiftry moving to RU? What changes do you think may come?
Nothing much. I haven't even seen it that much recently. I'm going to just hope my Haunter and Kadabra can shine now. RIP in RU, I hope you suck there, Shrifty.
Hm, with Shiftry and Combusken gone, we lack another strong Knock Off Dark Type in NU...
Liepard and Sneasel still exist as great dark types, with liepard having the great combo of encore + uturn, and sneasel with a great alternative stab and ability to swords dance
With shiftry gone, Feraligatr will have easy time to sweep as Sceptile,Liligants etc.. are rare to see. One less priority user to worry about! :)
You can start reserving analyses when NU starts doing them, which should be in a few days since NU is now out of beta.
When it does come out, though, it will be in this forum under "NU Analyses"
Check out this thread https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/good-cores-in-nu.3509437/ a bunch of good cores posted here.
I started using CM slurpuff and I wonder, what are the best coverage moves to put on it? I have it on a HO core with E-Vire and sneasel, which takes care of most bulky pkm in the tier. E-vire deals with steels, Toad (HP grass), Dragalge (EQ) and water types, Sneasel Spams knock of and kills Sceptile/Archeops. Then I send in Slurpuff to deal with the remaining team.
atm I've been using Surf and Flamethrower alongside Gleam, which provides coverage against Fire spam and Ferroseed+ and random steels. but are there othe coverage options you would put above Surf/Flamethrower?
atm I've been using Surf and Flamethrower alongside Gleam, which provides coverage against Fire spam and Ferroseed+ and random steels. but are there othe coverage options you would put above Surf/Flamethrower?
I would recommend replacing surf with psychic to kill defensive poison types. slurpuff does have other coverage options like energy ball and thunderbolt, but they aren't really needed in your case.
Thanks!
Granbull can 3HKOs with Play rough and doesn't take much, Slurpuff can use Calm Mind and Belly Drum, Scrappy Pangoro OHKOs with Hammer Arm.
Defensive checks are Haze Altaria who is kinda useful in stall and resets the boosts and Roost stalls spiritomb. Sdef Steelix and Dragalge to dragon tail it out. You should also be careful of Trick from Uxie
Those aren't the only ways obviously, almost any bulky setup sweeper not weak to dark can overpower it
Offensive tomb with blackglasses + 3x dark and willowisp is good, Gurdurr, slurpuff, Gatr and Magmortar are a few good pokemon to consider when building a team, everything in B and higher on the viability ranking are also things to consider.