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As I'm sure you're all aware, Baton Pass was re-nerfed earlier this summer. While the nerf was certainly necessary, it hasn't stopped the cancerous effects of BP on the metagame. Much to his credit, dEnIsSsS has managed to innovate a new BP style. He deserves much credit for his ingenuity. At the same time, however, the team he created is absolutely broken. It devolves every battle into a team matchup crapshoot. Here is a recent example against FLCL: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-ou-17008
As you can see, FLCL didn't make any mistakes (he even got a lot of hax), but the particular combination of screens, Taunt, Tailwind, and setup proved insurmountable. I'm sure we all have similar examples not just against dEnIsSsS, but against his imitators. Frankly, the team is so easy to use that it enables anyone to beat top players purely based on team matchup. At the same time, said top players stand no chance because they cannot handle the team's setup. This isn't a case where they simply need to change their team. In fact, the vast majority of viable teams stand no chance against this BP combo. The fact that enables low-leveled players (and I am not talking about dEnIsSsS) to easily defeat top battlers is a testament to how it takes all skill out of the game.
I've made this thread to raise awareness and to encourage the tiering council to take action. In order to ensure a competitive metagame, BP must be completely banned. (Also, hardly anyone dry-passes. Baton pass is virtually always used with setup moves.)
As you can see, FLCL didn't make any mistakes (he even got a lot of hax), but the particular combination of screens, Taunt, Tailwind, and setup proved insurmountable. I'm sure we all have similar examples not just against dEnIsSsS, but against his imitators. Frankly, the team is so easy to use that it enables anyone to beat top players purely based on team matchup. At the same time, said top players stand no chance because they cannot handle the team's setup. This isn't a case where they simply need to change their team. In fact, the vast majority of viable teams stand no chance against this BP combo. The fact that enables low-leveled players (and I am not talking about dEnIsSsS) to easily defeat top battlers is a testament to how it takes all skill out of the game.
I've made this thread to raise awareness and to encourage the tiering council to take action. In order to ensure a competitive metagame, BP must be completely banned. (Also, hardly anyone dry-passes. Baton pass is virtually always used with setup moves.)
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