No, not worth it. Save that godkill thing for other roles to get some info from them. And maybe when you want to be much more certain.
Please post the flavour, too. Those logs could be faked.Attention everyone: I got hit with a VERY interesting result last night.
Just in case anyone was wondering why I randomly stopped talking in #supers, it was a combination of receiving this result AND playing a league game (feel free to check Lolking to confirm I am telling the truth).
[13:30] <LonelyNess> UncleSam
[13:30] <LonelyNess> stop talking
[13:30] <LonelyNess> right now
[13:30] <LonelyNess> in #supers
[13:30] <UncleSam> am i ded
[13:30] <LonelyNess> no
[13:30] <UncleSam> oh
[13:30] <LonelyNess> you have been hit
[13:30] <LonelyNess> with the famed
[13:30] <LonelyNess> Lasso of Truth
[13:30] <UncleSam> that sux
[13:30] <LonelyNess> for the rest of the day
[13:30] <UncleSam> can you say that publicly
[13:30] <LonelyNess> you may -only- tell the truth
[13:30] <LonelyNess> if I find out you have lied in -any- way
[13:30] <LonelyNess> I will godkill you
[13:30] <LonelyNess> so tread lightly
[13:30] <LonelyNess> with what you say
[13:30] <LonelyNess> and no, I will not say that in public
[13:31] <UncleSam> uh
[13:31] <UncleSam> i mean im not lying
[13:31] <UncleSam> when i say
[13:31] <UncleSam> i think lightwolf is village
[13:31] <LonelyNess> you can lie to me
[13:31] <LonelyNess> lol
[13:31] <UncleSam> but can i only say factual things?
[13:31] <UncleSam> like
[13:31] <UncleSam> not opinions
[13:31] <UncleSam> ?
[13:31] <LonelyNess> you can't knowingly lie
[13:31] <UncleSam> i mean
[13:31] <UncleSam> i havent lied this whole game except that one time to lightwolf
[13:32] <LonelyNess> if you think
[13:32] <LonelyNess> you're crossing the line
[13:32] <LonelyNess> with what you say
[13:32] <LonelyNess> don't say it
[13:32] <UncleSam> mm ok
[13:32] <UncleSam> can i ask if this was
[13:32] <UncleSam> a smogon nametarget
[13:32] <UncleSam> or if someone randed alias
[13:32] <LonelyNess> which do you think
[13:32] <UncleSam> smogon name
[13:32] <UncleSam> or at least
[13:32] <UncleSam> i hope
[13:32] <UncleSam> X_X
[13:33] <LonelyNess> anyway
[13:33] <LonelyNess> have fun telling the truth all day!
[13:35] <UncleSam> wait
[13:35] <UncleSam> can you confirm
[13:35] <UncleSam> that it targeted
[13:35] <UncleSam> my smogon name
[13:35] <LonelyNess> no i can't confirm lol
[13:35] <UncleSam> fuk
[13:35] <UncleSam> can you confirm
[13:35] <UncleSam> it targeted my alias
[13:36] <UncleSam> or rather
[13:36] <UncleSam> are there roles itg that target smogon names
[13:37] <LonelyNess> why would I confirm that UncleSam lol
[13:37] <UncleSam> idk
[13:37] <UncleSam> doesnt hurt to ask
[14:16] <LonelyNess> oh also if you really want to say something
[14:16] <LonelyNess> and aren't sure if you'll die
[14:16] <LonelyNess> please check with me first
[14:16] <LonelyNess> i don't WANT you to get godkilled
[14:16] <LonelyNess> but i will if i have to
[14:16] <LonelyNess> :x
[14:17] <UncleSam> i dont want to get godkilled either!
[14:17] <UncleSam> but i mean
[14:17] <UncleSam> it seems like the bar is kinda low
[14:17] <UncleSam> as long as i dont knowingly lie
[14:17] <UncleSam> im fine right
[14:17] <UncleSam> so i can utter potential falsehoods that are my opinions
[14:17] <UncleSam> ?
[14:17] <UncleSam> ie 'i think ditto is village'
[14:17] <LonelyNess> as long as you preface it
[14:17] <LonelyNess> that it is an opinion
[14:17] <LonelyNess> and not a fact
[14:17] <UncleSam> can i publicly clean someone
[14:17] <UncleSam> by stating it as a fact
[14:18] <UncleSam> and if im not godkilled
[14:18] <LonelyNess> lol that's pretty risky
[14:18] <UncleSam> then they are clean
[14:18] <LonelyNess> but yes
[14:18] <UncleSam> but it works?
[14:18] <UncleSam> ok
[14:18] <UncleSam> im gonna do that with ditto
[14:18] <LonelyNess> you really wanna take the risk?
[14:18] <UncleSam> i mean
[14:18] <UncleSam> at this point
[14:18] <LonelyNess> 50/50 shot you're instantly godkilled lol
[14:18] <UncleSam> hmm
[14:18] <UncleSam> ughhh
So, the details: I cannot lie this cycle or I will be godkilled. I do not know if this targeted my Smogon Name or my alias.
Firstly, I will state a few things I know 100% to be true: I am Allied with The Villains. My role name is Thanos. I possess the Infinity Gauntlet as part of my role (it is not an item).
Now then, I want opinions on whether or not I should take the risk and publicly state that Ditto is village: it will out Ditto as non village if I am godkilled; is it worth the risk?
Ok, well before we take what Sam is saying for the truth I would like someone to come forward and say that they used this. It is clearly an item, if anything, so it isn't even claiming a role...The only result I got was via IRC...the flavor was Lasso of Truth, as seen in the log.
Hold up everyone while I think about what to do.
logs from lotr said:[11:22] Cancerous I'm going to need details
[11:22] Cancerous copious details
[11:23] Ullar of?
[11:24] UncleSam yo guys remember
[11:24] UncleSam deadlines in 10ish hours
[11:24] Ullar I am aware
[11:24] Ullar and I do believe that NOW is the time to act in regards to expending a puny soldier
[11:25] Ullar also I have no night actions atm, so eh
[11:25] UncleSam right now you lot have inspect hook and have ot decide about orc vote ability
[11:26] Ullar Forte/The_Lord it is my amateur reccomendation that for now, you direct the orcs to vote for you, b/c we have no certainty about them...also tell ipl to sacrifice himself for the good of the Forces
[11:26] Cancerous what exactly are we having ipl do?
[11:27] Ullar call out publically for neuts to cnotact
[11:27] Ullar he's jsut an orc
[11:27] Ullar so it won't hurt too much in the long run
[11:27] penguin344 if ipl is the traitor though
[11:28] Ullar then he'll be lynched the next day and everyone's happy
[11:28] Ullar on the evil side anyway
[11:28] Ullar ipl will redirect the neut to Bass
[11:28] Ullar who in turn will bring them into the fold
[11:28] Ullar as a side note, I have a hunch you should inspect Pidge
[11:29] Cancerous and you're planning to do it during day cycle?
[11:29] Ullar wait
[11:29] Ullar not hook
[11:29] Ullar you should idle, jsut to be safe
[11:29] Ullar no, Ditto should inspect Pidge
[11:29] Ullar yeah, we'll lynch the stupid scum during the day
[11:30] Ullar that should delay me having to prove my role
[11:30] penguin344 ullar how do you plan to prove yourself
[11:31] Ullar I was gonna say
[11:32] Ullar I could bank on Gondor Soldiers voting with me
[11:32] Ullar but I realize the village may have thought of that
[11:32] Ullar I suppose I could simply say 'look we have an outed mafian, let's lynch the dumbscum!'
[11:34] Ullar I coudl also
[11:34] Ullar snip something
[11:34] Ullar or rather, insert a snip
[11:35] Ullar and later in the game (should I surive)
[11:35] Ullar I could call out for Frodo to contact me
[11:35] Cancerous we can't just keep killing our orcs to distract the villagers, we moled to keep the villagers from doing that
[11:36] Cancerous let's recap the situation, how many claims did you get so far?
[11:37] Ullar um
[11:37] Ullar none
[11:37] UncleSam xD
[11:37] Ullar shut up
[11:37] Ullar spiders aren't very sociable
[11:39] Ullar I'm starting to prod people
[11:39] Ullar for names
[11:39] Cancerous eh, this is bad, very bad
[11:40] Ullar how so?
[11:40] Ullar ok yeha
[11:40] Ullar I made a stupid
[11:40] Ullar but I'm trying to learn how to take initiative in games
[11:40] Ullar :/
[11:43] Ullar Agape said he wouldn't claim in a partially NOC game
[11:44] Cancerous eh, i think best course of action now is admit it's hard to prove your ability, and go back to act as a happy go lucky villager
[11:44] Ullar idk, if I back down now
[11:44] Cancerous but don't do it now, let see if the other have any better idea
[11:44] Ullar I might get lynched
[11:44] Ullar seeing as it is somewhat easily provable
[11:45] Cancerous how is it provable?
[11:45] Ullar in voting
[11:46] Cancerous Is there a vote counts announcement during days?
[11:47] UncleSam no
[11:48] Cancerous eh, they will have to prove it by a lynch
[11:48] Ullar hm
[11:48] Ullar and without a lynch target
[11:48] Ullar is isn't very provable
[11:48] Cancerous with a margin of 1
[11:48] Ullar but this is also true
[11:48] Ullar let's delay having to prove it
[11:49] Ullar by having an obv lynch present itself
[11:50] Cancerous the lynch will be very easy for a single orc to mess up, netting a village kill, by the next cycle, we protect you from lynch
[11:50] Ullar but that means we earned nothing without claims
[11:51] Cancerous then this is where penguin come in with his fake about eowyn, that's should be night 2
[11:52] Cancerous you then silence penguin with your inspection, so you live another cycle
[11:52] Ullar DING DING DING
[11:52] Ullar Eagle4 is aragorn
[11:52] Ullar he jsut nameclaimed to me
[11:52] Ullar not a total loss!
[11:54] Cancerous eh, that's good
[11:54] Cancerous where the heck is everybody else?
[11:58] Cancerous everyone still here? Forte? billymills?
[11:59] Ullar dunno
[12:00] UncleSam apparently they sleep sometimes
[12:00] UncleSam !
[12:00] Ullar sleep is for the wewak
[12:01] Ullar the All-Seeing Eye never rests
[12:01] Cancerous who would've know they're not robots, let's hold off your fake claim situation untill somebody else is back
[12:02] * NickServ invited Ditto into the channel.
[12:02] * Ditto (Ditto@anything.you.can.do.I.can.do.better) has joined #wingerdinger
[12:02] * ChanServ sets mode +a #wingerdinger Ditto
[12:02] * ChanServ gives channel operator status to Ditto
[12:02] Cancerous anyway, did eagle claim ability?
[12:03] Ullar no, I didn't ask for that
[12:03] Ullar I think I wouldn't have even got the Aragorn part if I'd pushed
[12:04] Ullar hi Ditto, I think you should inspect Pidge
[12:04] Ditto any particular reason?
[12:04] Ullar a hunch
[12:05] Ullar back of Mordor lands
[12:05] Ullar wow I'm lucking up
[12:06] Cancerous pidge? what did your spider's sense tell you? Is he neutral?
[12:06] Ullar Rodan is Gimli
[12:06] Ullar my spidey sense is never specific
[12:08] Cancerous Ditto i need your help to prevent Ullar's imminent doom
[12:13] Ditto what did he do?
[12:15] Ullar I kinda claimed mayor
[12:21] Ullar tik is a rider of rohan
[12:21] Ullar I managed to win him over
[12:32] Ullar HOLD IT
[12:32] Ullar all the rohirrim know of each other
[12:32] Ullar as in
[12:32] Ullar they know who each other are
[12:32] Ullar unless we wanna burn thru orcs like hotackes
[12:32] Ullar *hotcakes
[12:33] Ullar we should not let them claim!
[12:33] Ullar it's a safe bet gondor exists too in the same way
[12:33] Cancerous eh, who told you that?
[12:33] Ullar TIK
[12:33] Ullar he claims to be a rohirrim
[12:34] Ullar nice try UncleSam
[12:34] Cancerous I'm a rohirim mole
[12:35] UncleSam ?
[12:35] Ullar and you aren't in any such convo?
[12:35] Ullar hm
[12:35] Ullar well this is
[12:35] Cancerous yeah...
[12:35] Ullar very interesting
[12:35] UncleSam what nice try
[12:35] Ullar TIK may be trying to
[12:35] Ullar pull the proverbial wool over my eyes
[12:35] Ullar change of plans Ditto
[12:36] Ullar we inspect TIK
[12:36] penguin344 i kinda doubt tik has a power role
[12:36] Ullar he's trying to pull something
[12:36] Ullar I doubt it too, given his play history
[12:36] penguin344 given he has done approxamately nothing in every game thusfar
[12:36] Ullar but you never know
[12:36] Ullar he seems mildly invested in this game at least
[12:36] Ullar if he's attempting this
[12:36] penguin344 the village can only have like 10 or so power roles
[12:37] Ullar what he's saying and waht you're saying don't line up
[12:37] Ullar and we have no other leads
[12:37] Ullar do you have a better idea for our inspection besides a rand?
[12:37] Ullar ;P
[12:38] penguin344 nametargeting seems like a good idea to me
[12:38] penguin344 although it really isn't better than a rand
[12:38] Ullar this is a lead, flimsy as it is
[12:39] Ullar I say we go on it, as Ditto has nothign really better to do
[12:39] penguin344 we can be somewhat confident thqat frodo is a somewhat good player
[12:39] Ullar I highly doubt he's frodo
[12:39] Ullar I suspect TIK is a neut
[12:39] penguin344 tik isn't fordo
[12:40] Ullar maybe along the lines of the Anarchy from von's game
[12:41] Cancerous eh, i think he's just trolling you
[12:41] Ullar I'll post the log
[12:41] Ullar I guess
[12:42] Cancerous in here first please
[12:42] Ullar was I gonna psot it anywhere else?
[12:42] Ullar http://pastebin.com/GL0iEe77
[12:43] Ullar idk, it's soemthing
[12:45] Ullar he changed his mind way too quickly
[12:45] Ullar for my tastes
[12:45] penguin344 the rohirrim can't know each other
[12:45] Ullar exactly
[12:46] Ullar look, I have a gut feeling TIK is a minor neut
[12:46] Ullar and we have nothing better to do with inspect
[12:46] Ullar I fial to see the harm
[12:47] Cancerous ewait, Von designed this games?
[12:47] Cancerous i think TIK is drunk
[12:47] UncleSam i can confirm that vonfiedler did not desgin this game
[12:47] UncleSam nor did he take any part in designing this game
[12:47] UncleSam it was me and dle only
[12:57] Ullar Cancerous; Slim is a rohirrim who didn't try to pull wool over my eyes
[12:57] Ullar I directed him to you
[12:58] Cancerous oh, what did you tell him about me?
[12:58] Ullar you're a rohirrim
[12:58] Cancerous that's it?
[12:59] Ullar yeah
[12:59] Ullar that's all you're supposed to be I thought
[13:00] Ullar I'll interrogate some of the orcs too
[13:00] Ullar jsut to keep up appearances
[13:00] Ullar don't want the traitor trying too catch on!
[13:27] Ullar BT says he's either Gondor or Rohirrim
[13:27] Ullar won't divulge
[13:27] Ullar but he seems to believe I'm village
[13:27] Ullar yes I am keeping records
[13:28] Ditto hopefully the traitor will contact you
[13:28] Ullar hm
[13:28] Ullar maybe I can say I've found out that a traitor exists
[13:28] Ullar actually
[13:28] Ullar nvm
[13:28] Ullar too risky
[13:29] Ullar I think I'll jsut
[13:29] Ullar interrogate all the orcs
[13:29] Ullar and hope to get lucky
[13:29] Ullar lol derp
[13:29] Ullar our PM lists BT as an orc
[13:30] Ullar ok so seeing as he is falseclaiming, I think we can take our suspicion off of him
[13:30] Ullar temporarily
[13:30] Ullar as long as Forte/The_Lord tells the whole orc gang that I'm not mafia
[13:30] Ullar I think this could be a way of rooting out the traitor early
[13:30] Ullar then we can fully inform the orcs
[13:30] Ullar so we cna sweep this game
[13:33] Ditto Forte, do we have sheet?
[13:36] Cancerous eh, we have a sheet, but it's kinda empty right now
[13:36] Ullar Flamestrike is Theoden
[13:36] Ullar oh?
[13:36] Ullar link me
[13:36] Ditto LINK ME I WILL MAKE IT PRETTY!
[13:36] Ullar wait, I don't think I gave Bass my email
[13:36] Ullar crappola
[13:36] Ullar man I'm lucking up
[13:37] Ullar with the named chars
[15:05] Eagle4 Am I the only one who thinks that what ullar is doing is the correct way to go about this game
[15:05] Aura_Guardian no, eagle
[15:05] THE_IRON_KENYAN i think hes solid
[15:05] SlimGuldo i think it's probably a good idea to have someone organise
[15:05] THE_IRON_KENYAN bilbo is risky but the more i see it i think its a legit name
[15:05] Ditto I think he's liquid
[15:06] THE_IRON_KENYAN didnt know woodchuck was playing
[15:06] Flamestrike idk if ullar is the best person to be doing it, but i do feel like the village should be attempting to organize itself
[15:06] Eagle4 it's more the fact that if he were on a mafia then i don't think he would be the one chosen as a representative
[15:06] THE_IRON_KENYAN i like to take risks when i play anyway
[15:06] THE_IRON_KENYAN its more fun
[15:06] Ullar|ipod Yeah
[15:06] Eagle4 no offence ullar!
[15:06] Ullar|ipod None taken!
[15:08] THE_IRON_KENYAN its weird how u say we need to make sure mordor needs to get the ring
[15:08] THE_IRON_KENYAN didnt see that in unclesams op or in my role pm
[15:08] THE_IRON_KENYAN could be a slip but idk
[15:08] Ullar|ipod 9.9
[15:09] Eagle4 it could also just be the fact that
[15:09] Eagle4 LOTR was based on that plot
[15:09] Ullar|ipod Clearly you haven't seen the movies/books
[15:09] Ullar|ipod
...It was in the OP, reading too difficult apparently…
[15:10] Ullar|ipod I do not doubt the Ring is in this game, in Frodo's hands
[15:10] THE_IRON_KENYAN just seems like he might have put something in there that didnt need to be
[15:10] Ullar|ipod And if Frodo were to be mafkilled, we would most likely lose
[15:10] Ullar|ipod Or at the very least
[15:10] Ditto God, I hope Gollum is wolf who wins if he gets the ring
[15:20] Ullar|ipod I'll keep slinging mud
[15:20] Ullar|ipod That might help
[17:26] imperfectluck me to Bass: can I claim to be mafia straight up and see if any neutrals come talk to me, and we can use lynch protect on me
[17:26] imperfectluck Bass: I'll talk to other leaders about it
[17:27] imperfectluck me to Bass: can I lead the village
[17:27] imperfectluck Bass: I'll talk to other leaders about it
[17:27] imperfectluck I'm getting real bored here US
[17:27] imperfectluck I might just ignore him and do stuff
[17:27] UncleSam im sorry :(
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bullying roles out of people aint doing you any favours. someone who has to resort to bullying roles this early reeks desperation. no harm in waiting this out until you know someone is legit (so i wouldnt claim to anyone so far until there's something concrete and not cheap tricks.)UncleSam said:Everyone is to claim to me IN FULL, INCLUDING ALIAS. SEND ME A SMOGON PM. I also want opinions of whether I should risk godkilling myself in order to obtain more information on certain people.