LC Venonat

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Overview
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With access to Compound Eyes and Sleep Powder, Venonat can become a huge disruption for the opponent. Its ability to Baton Pass an Agility boost after putting the foe to sleep is only more of a plus. Add a nifty resistance to Fighting- and Fairy-type moves into the picture, and you have a unique and enjoyable Pokemon to use. However, Venonat does suffer from its Bugtyping by being weak to Stealth Rock, Rock-types, Fire-types and Flying-types, all of which are rather common in Little Cup. It's also obliterated by Fletchling and is usually inferior to Torchic when it comes to Baton Passing speed boosts. All in all, Venonat can still function as a good user of Baton Pass with its unique advantages.

Baton Pass
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name: Baton Pass
move 1: Baton Pass
move 2: Agility / Substitute
move 3: Sleep Powder
move 4: Bug Bite / Substitute / Morning Sun / Protect
ability: Compound Eyes
item: Eviolite / Berry Juice / Focus Sash
evs: 116 HP / 76 Atk / 36 Def / 236 Spe
nature: Jolly

Moves
========

Baton Pass is the highlight of the set because, well, it's a Baton Pass set. Agility is Venonat's boosting move of choice and can be passed to slow sweepers such as Cranidos and Corphish. Sleep Powder is fantastic when combined with Compound Eyes, which boosts its accuracy to 97%, making it much easier for Venonat to set up an Agility and Baton Pass to a teammate. The final moveslot can vary, and each move works in tandem with one of Venonat's item options. Bug Bite prevents Venonat from being entirely crippled by Taunt, Morning Sun allows for reliable recovery, and Protect is nice for blocking a Fake Out intended to break Venonat's Focus Sash. Substitute can be used to block status moves and in particular, set up on Pokemon such as Foongus and Ferroseed.

Set Details
========

The EVs give Venonat a 24/12/12 spread and it hits 15 speed with a Jolly Nature. The item is up to personal preference and team structure. A more fast-paced team might lean towards Focus Sash + Protect while a bulkier team might prefer Eviolite. Berry Juice is best used in conjunction with Substitute, to provide a reliable means of recovery.

Usage Tips
========

The moveset is rather simple to use. If you have it, use Protect on the first turn to block a possible Fake Out, then proceed to use Sleep Powder. Set up an Agility and then Baton Pass it to a powerful Pokemon and attempt to sweep the opposing team -- this is particularly helpful for giving slower offensive Pokemon a means to sweep. If using a Substitute set, Venonat can still successfully set up on Pokemon such as Foongus which could otherwise stop Venonat in its tracks. Venonat can also switch in and set up on Pokemon such as Spritzee and Croagunk, both of which are rather common in the current metagame.

Team Options
========

Venonat appreciates any means of entry hazard removal so it can keep its Focus Sash intact. A good Baton Pass recipient is crucial if you intend to pass Agility boosts; slow but powerful Pokemon, such as Cranidos and Darumaka, can make great use of +2 Speed to sweep the opposing team. If you intend to make a Baton Pass chain, other Pokemon with boosting moves and Baton Pass are great partners, especially if they can cover some of Venonat's weaknesses; Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Torchic and Mime Jr. accomplish this quite nicely.

Other Options
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Venonat has access to Disable, which, when paired with Substitute, can lead to some fun shenanigans. Skill Swap can be used to give the user some unique options, like getting Regenerator from an opposing Slowpoke to aid in Venonat's longevity. Stun Spore is an option if you decide to take the utility route with Venonat, letting it spread paralysis and sleep throughout the opponent's team. Toxic Spikes can also be used, and it can easily be set up after putting the active foe to sleep.

Checks and Counters
########

**Flying-types**: If Venonat's Focus Sash is broken, or if it's running Eviolite, it can easily be KOed by a strong Flying-type move, and although it can still use Sleep Powder and Baton Pass Agility boosts in some cases, it's usually too risky against these types of enemies. Vullaby is a Flying-type that threatens Venonat for reasons other than simply its typing.

**Fast Taunt Users**: Anything that can outspeed Venonat and use Taunt instantly shuts it down, especially if the Taunt-user resists Venonat's Bug-type STAB move, such as Mienfoo and Gastly.

**Bulky Grass-types**: Bulky Grass-type Pokemon, such as Cottonee and Foongus, are unaffected by Sleep Powder and can Encore or Spore Venonat, respectively. However, both of these Pokemon have secondary typings that neutralize their Bug-type weakness.

**Phazing Moves**: Moves such as Roar and Whirlwind will nullify Venonat's stat boosts, and if entry hazards are set up, phazing can result in a broken Focus Sash later in the game.

**Rock-types**: Rock-type Pokemon can easily take a hit from Venonat, and faster Pokemon, such as Onix and Dwebble, can knock out Venonat with Rock Blast regardless of whether it has a Focus Sash or not.

**Stealth Rock**: Stealth Rock puts a damper on Venonat's longevity, limiting the amount of times it can switch in and Baton Pass boosts.

**Early Bird Houndour**: Early Bird Houndour is a solid check to Venonat, not caring too much about Sleep Powder and being able to easily OHKO with Fire Blast, all while being able to hit the Baton Pass recipient with a strong STAB move.

 

[zeriloa]

ok this looks fine for the most part, make sure to mention how it receives a lot of competition from Torchic and that the only thing it has over it is Compound Eyes Sleep Powder. Mention Vullaby in particular in C&C as it pretty much shuts down Venonat thanks to Sleep Powder immunity, also add Early Bird Houndour there. Mention some things it can set up on relatively safely in Usage Tips, such as Trubbish and Foongus after its Spore'd something. Substitute + Berry Juice seems like a better option than Morning Sun + Eviolite if you want healing, so you might want to slash that instead, but its up to you. Good job QC 1/3

 

[Rowan]

think sub should get a slash in the set, since sub is really nice to let you set up on foongus, and other status abusers like twave porygon nicely.

this is very detailed though, so good job and 2/3

 

[Corporal Levi]

I think you're severely underselling Substitute; from my experience, I have found it easily one of the most useful moves to baton pass.
move 1: Baton Pass
move 2: Agility / Substitute
move 3: Sleep Powder
move 4: Bug Bite / Substitute / Morning Sun / Protect
ability: Compound Eyes
item: Eviolite / Berry Juice / Focus Sash
I switched the moves and items around here to encourage the use of Subpass, which is great for gaining momentum.

Other Options:
Since you already have Substitute in the main set, just say that Disable can be used in tandem with Substitute for the first point.

Otherwise looks good
QC 3/3

 

[Rowan]

discussed this on skype, good to go for GP

 

[frenzyplant]

amcheck :)

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Overview
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With access to Compound Eyes and Sleep Powder, Venonat can become a huge disruption for annoyance to the opponent. (period) and Its ability to Baton Pass an Agility boost after statusing (remove dash) the opponentsing Pokemon is only more of a plus. Add a nifty resistance to Fighting-type moves into the picture, and you have a unique and enjoyable Pokemon to use. However, Venonat does suffer from its Bug-typing, being as it is weak to Stealth Rock as well as Rock-types, Fire-, (comma)types and Flying-type moves, all of which are rather common in Little Cup. It's VEnonat is also obliterated by Fletchling and is usually inferior to Torchic when it comes to Baton Passing Speed boosts.

Baton Pass
########
name: Baton Pass
move 1: Baton Pass
move 2: Agility / Substitute
move 3: Sleep Powder
move 4: Bug Bite / Substitute / Morning Sun / Protect
ability: Compound Eyes
item: Eviolite / Berry Juice / Focus Sash
evs: 116 HP / 76 Atk / 36 Def / 236 Spe
nature: Jolly

Moves
========

Baton Pass is the highlight of the set because, well, it's a Baton Pass set. This set is used to Baton Pass boosts using Baton Pass. Agility is Venonat's main form of boosting and can be passed to slow sweepers such as Cranidos and Corphish. Substitute can be used to block status moves and, in particular, set up on Pokemon such as Foongus and Thunder Wave Porygon. Sleep Powder is fantastic when combined with Compound Eyes, boosting which boosts its accuracy to 97%, making and makes it much easier to set up an Agility and Baton pass the boosts. The move in the final moveslot can vary, and each move works in tandem with one of Venonat's item options. Bug Bite prevents Venonat from being entirely crippled by Taunt, Morning Sun allows for reliable recovery, (how do Bug Bite and Morning Sun work in tandem with Eviolite or Berry Juice?) and Protect is nice for blocking a Fake Out intended to break Venonat's Focus Sash. Substitute can be used to block status moves and in particular, set up on Pokemon such as Foongus and T-Wave Porygon.

Set Details
========

The EVs give Venonat a 24/12/12 defenses, spread and with a Jolly Nature, it hits 15 speed. The item is up to personal preference and team structure. A more fast-paced team might lean towards Focus Sash + Protect while a bulkier team might prefer Eviolite. Berry Juice is best used in conjunction with Substitute, (remove comma) to provide a rather reliable means of recovery.

Usage Tips
========

This moveset is rather simple to abuse. If you have it, use Protect on the first turn to block a possible Fake Out, then proceed to use Sleep Powder. Set up an Agility, (comma) then Baton Pass it to a powerful, slower (slower) Pokemon and attempt to sweep the opposing team. If Substitute is used utilizing a Substitute set, Venonat can still successfully set up on Pokemon such as Foongus that could otherwise stop Venonat in its tracks.

Team Options
========

If using Focus Sash, Venonat is going to appreciates any means of hazard removal so it can keep its Focus Sash intact. A good Baton Pass recipient is crucial to have a Pokemon to give Agility boosts to if you intend on handing off Agility boosts (the purpose of the set); slow but powerful Pokemon, such as Cranidos and Darumaka, can make great use of +2 Speed to sweep the opposing team. If you intend to make use a Baton Pass chain, other Pokemon with boosting moves and Baton Pass are great partners, especially if they can cover some of Venonat's weaknesses; Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Torchic, (comma) and Mime Jr. accomplish this quite nicely.

Other Options
########

Venonat has access to Disable which, when paired with Subsitute, can lead to some fun shenanigans. Skill Swap can be used with Compound-Eyes (remove dash) + Sleep Powder to give the user Venonat some unique options like getting such as Regenerator from an opposing Slowpoke to aid in Venonat's longevity. Stun Spore is an option if you decide to take the utility route with Venonat, letting it spread paralysis and sleep throughout the opponent's team. Toxic Spikes can also be used, and it can easily be set up after sleeping the foe putting the opposing Pokemon to sleep.

Checks and Counters
########

**Flying-types**: If Venonat's Focus Sash is broken, or if it's running Eviolite, it can easily be KOed by a strong Flying-type move, (comma) and although it can still use Sleep Powder and Baton Pass Agility boosts in some cases, it's usually too risky.

**Vullaby**: Vullaby is a huge threat to Venonat as it is immune to Sleep Powder thanks to Overcoat and can easily take quite a few Bug Bites, while being it is able to scare Venonat out with Brave Bird.

**Fast Taunt users**: Anything that can outspeed Venonat and use Taunt instantly shuts it down, especially if the Taunt-user (remove dash) resists Bug Bite, as in the cases of Gastly and Mienfoo Venonat's Bug-type STAB move (Misdreavus, Gastly).

**Bulky Grass-types**: Bulky Grass-type Pokemon, such as Cottonee and Foongus, are unaffected by Sleep Powder and can use Encore or and Spore on Venonat, respectively.

**Phazing moves**: Moves such as Roar and Whirlwind will nullify Venonat's stat boosts and, (comma) if hazards are set up, can result in a broken Focus Sash later in the game.

**Rock-types**: Rock-type Pokemon can easily take a hit from Venonat and faster Pokemon, such as Onix and Dwebble, can knock out Venonat with Rock Blast, which breaks through Focus Sash regardless as to whether it has a Focus Sash or not.

**Stealth Rock**: Stealth Rock puts a damper on Venonat's longevity, limitsing the amount number of times it Venonat can switch in and Baton Pass boosts.

**Early Bird Houndour**: Early Bird Houndour is a solid check to Venonat, as it does not careing too much about a Sleep Powder and is being able to easily KO Venonat with a Fire Blast, all while being able to hit the Baton Pass recipient with a strong STAB move.

 

[Goddess Briyella]

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Overview
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With access to Compound Eyes and Sleep Powder, Venonat can become a huge disruption for the opponent.(add period) and its ability to Baton Pass an Agility boost after status-ing the opponent putting the foe to sleep (the opponent is the opposing player, not his/her Pokemon; also, there's no need to use a vague term like "statusing" when sleep is the only status it can afflict) is only more of a plus. Add a nift nifty resitance to Fighting- and Fairy-type moves into the picture, and you have a unique and enjoyable Pokemon to use. However, Venonat does suffer from its Bug-typing,(remove comma) by being weak to Stealth Rock, Rock-types, Fire-types and Flying-types, all of which are rather common in Little Cup. It's also obliterated by Fletchling and is usually inferior to Torchic when it comes to Baton Passing speed boosts. (I personally think the overview should end on a positive note since it's to explain why the Pokemon is usable; something like "All in all, Venonat can still function as a good user of Baton Pass with its unique advantages" would be fine as an ending remark here)

Baton Pass
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name: Baton Pass
move 1: Baton Pass
move 2: Agility / Substitute
move 3: Sleep Powder
move 4: Bug Bite / Substitute / Morning Sun / Protect
ability: Compound Eyes
item: Eviolite / Berry Juice / Focus Sash
evs: 116 HP / 76 Atk / 36 Def / 236 Spe
nature: Jolly

Moves
========

Baton Pass is the highlight of the set because, well, it's a Baton Pass set. Agility is Venonat's main form of boosting boosting move of choice (Agility is its only boosting move, not its main one) and can be passed to slow sweepers such as Cranidos and Corphish. Sleep Powder is fantastic when combined with Compound Eyes, boosting its accuracy to 97%, making which makes it much easier to set up an Agility and Baton Pass to a teammate. The final moveslot can vary, and each move works in tandem with one of Venonat's item options. Bug Bite prevents Venonat from being entirely crippled by Taunt, Morning Sun allows for reliable recovery, and Protect is nice for blocking a Fake Out intended to break Venonat's Focus Sash. Substitute can be used to block status moves and in particular, set up on Pokemon such as Foongus and T-Wave Porygon (I'm iffy about this because Porygon now runs Psychic over Shadow Ball; yes you can block Thunder Wave with Substitute but once players are familiar with how Venonat operates, they will go for Psychic straight away; it's true that Venonat could just put Porygon to sleep but don't list Porygon as something that Venonat can actually set up a Substitute on because it can set up Sub on anything that's asleep).

Set Details
========

The EVs give Venonat a 24/12/12 spread and it hits 15 Speed with a Jolly Nature, it hits 15 Speed. The item is up to personal preference and team structure. A more fast-paced team might lean towards Focus Sash + Protect while a bulkier team might prefer Eviolite. Berry Juice is best used in conjunction with Substitute, to provide a rather reliable means of recovery.

Usage Tips
========

The moveset is rather simple to abuse use. If you have it, use Protect on the first turn to block a possible Fake Out, then proceed to use Sleep Powder. Set up an Agility and then Baton Pass it to a powerful (slower) Pokemon and attempt to sweep the opposing team—this is particularly helpful for allowing slower offensive Pokemon a means to sweep. If utilizing a Substitute set, Venonat can still successfully set up on Pokemon such as Foongus that could otherwise stop Venonat in its tracks. Venonat can also switch in and set up on Pokemon such as Spritzee and Croagunk, both of which are rather common in the current metagame. (thank you for adding this ^_^)

Team Options
========

Venonat is going to appreciate appreciates any means of entry hazard removal so it can keep its Focus Sash intact. A good Baton Pass recipient is crucial if you intend on handing off to pass Agility boosts (the purpose of the set); slow but powerful Pokemon, such as Cranidos and Darumaka, can make great use of +2 Speed to sweep the opposing team. If you intend to make a Baton Pass chain, other Pokemon with boosting moves and Baton Pass are great partners, especially if they can cover some of Venonat's weaknesses; Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Torchic and Mime Jr. accomplish this quite nicely.

Other Options
########

Venonat has access to Disable,(AC) which, when paired with Subsitute Substitute, can lead to some fun shenanigans. Skill Swap can be used with Compound-Eyes Compound Eyes + Sleep Powder to give the user some unique options like getting Regenerator from an opposing Slowpoke to aid in Venonat's longevity. Stun Spore is an option if you decide to take the utility route with Venonat, letting it spread paralysis and sleep throughout the opponent's team. Toxic Spikes can also be used, and can easily be set up after sleeping the foe Pokemon putting the active foe to sleep.

Checks and Counters
########

**Flying-types**: If Venonat's Focus Sash is broken, or if it's running Eviolite, it can easily be KOed by a strong Flying-type move,(AC) and although it can still use Sleep Powder and Baton Pass Agility boosts in some cases, it's usually too risky against these types of enemies.

**Vullaby**: Vullaby is a huge threat to Venonat as it is immune to Sleep Powder thanks to Overcoat and can easily take quite a few Bug Bites, while being able to scare Venonat out with Brave Bird. (this should either be added onto the Flying-types segment above or made distinct in the opening sentence here that Vullaby is threatening in ways that warrant it a separate segment; something like "Vullaby is a Flying-type that threatens Venonat for reasons other than simply its typing" would work well)

**Fast Taunt users**: Anything that can outspeed Venonat and use Taunt instantly shuts it down, especially if the Taunt-user resists Venonat's Bug-type STAB move (Misdreavus, Gastly). (You totally missed Mienfoo here, as it resists Bug as well and already has a common Taunt set that's designed to shut down opposing Dwebble)

**Bulky Grass-types**: Bulky Grass-type Pokemon, such as Cottonee and Foongus, are unaffected by Sleep Powder and can Encore or Spore Venonat, respectively. (It should also be noted that these two Grass-types mentioned in here in particular have a secondary type that neutralizes their Bug weakness)

**Phazing moves**: Moves such as Roar and Whirlwind will nullify Venonat's stat boosts and,(AC) if hazards are set up, it can result in a broken Focus Sash later in the game.

**Rock-types**: Rock-type Pokemon can easily take a hit from Venonat and faster Pokemon, such as Onix and Dwebble, and can knock out Venonat with Rock Blast, regardless as to of whether it has a Focus Sash or not.

**Stealth Rock**: Stealth Rock puts a damper on Venonat's longevity, limiting the amount of times it can switch in and Baton Pass boosts.

**Early Bird Houndour**: Early Bird Houndour is a solid check to Venonat, not caring too much about a Sleep Powder and being able to easily KO OHKO with a Fire Blast, all while being able to hit the Baton Pass recipient with a strong STAB move.

Well written. Please note my comments. :)

frenzyplant, I'd have gone over your GP check if you were online when I saw this. If you'd like for me to stamp some of your checks in the future, contact me on Smogon or on IRC in #grammar. :)

GP 1/2

 

[doomsday doink]

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Overview
########

With access to Compound Eyes and Sleep Powder, Venonat can become a huge disruption for the opponent.(add period) and its ability to Baton Pass an Agility boost after status-ing the opponent putting the foe to sleep (the opponent is the opposing player, not his/her Pokemon; also, there's no need to use a vague term like "statusing" when sleep is the only status it can afflict) is only more of a plus. Add a nift nifty resitance to Fighting- and Fairy-type moves into the picture, and you have a unique and enjoyable Pokemon to use. However, Venonat does suffer from its Bug-typing,(remove comma) by being weak to Stealth Rock, Rock-types, Fire-types and Flying-types, all of which are rather common in Little Cup. It's also obliterated by Fletchling and is usually inferior to Torchic when it comes to Baton Passing speed boosts. (I personally think the overview should end on a positive note since it's to explain why the Pokemon is usable; something like "All in all, Venonat can still function as a good user of Baton Pass with its unique advantages" would be fine as an ending remark here)

Baton Pass
########
name: Baton Pass
move 1: Baton Pass
move 2: Agility / Substitute
move 3: Sleep Powder
move 4: Bug Bite / Substitute / Morning Sun / Protect
ability: Compound Eyes
item: Eviolite / Berry Juice / Focus Sash
evs: 116 HP / 76 Atk / 36 Def / 236 Spe
nature: Jolly

Moves
========

Baton Pass is the highlight of the set because, well, it's a Baton Pass set. Agility is Venonat's main form of boosting boosting move of choice (Agility is its only boosting move, not its main one) and can be passed to slow sweepers such as Cranidos and Corphish. Sleep Powder is fantastic when combined with Compound Eyes, boosting its accuracy to 97%, making which makes it much easier to set up an Agility and Baton Pass to a teammate. The final moveslot can vary, and each move works in tandem with one of Venonat's item options. Bug Bite prevents Venonat from being entirely crippled by Taunt, Morning Sun allows for reliable recovery, and Protect is nice for blocking a Fake Out intended to break Venonat's Focus Sash. Substitute can be used to block status moves and in particular, set up on Pokemon such as Foongus and T-Wave Porygon (I'm iffy about this because Porygon now runs Psychic over Shadow Ball; yes you can block Thunder Wave with Substitute but once players are familiar with how Venonat operates, they will go for Psychic straight away; it's true that Venonat could just put Porygon to sleep but don't list Porygon as something that Venonat can actually set up a Substitute on because it can set up Sub on anything that's asleep).

Set Details
========

The EVs give Venonat a 24/12/12 spread and it hits 15 Speed with a Jolly Nature, it hits 15 Speed. The item is up to personal preference and team structure. A more fast-paced team might lean towards Focus Sash + Protect while a bulkier team might prefer Eviolite. Berry Juice is best used in conjunction with Substitute, to provide a rather reliable means of recovery.

Usage Tips
========

The moveset is rather simple to abuse use. If you have it, use Protect on the first turn to block a possible Fake Out, then proceed to use Sleep Powder. Set up an Agility and then Baton Pass it to a powerful (slower) Pokemon and attempt to sweep the opposing team—this is particularly helpful for allowing slower offensive Pokemon a means to sweep. If utilizing a Substitute set, Venonat can still successfully set up on Pokemon such as Foongus that could otherwise stop Venonat in its tracks. Venonat can also switch in and set up on Pokemon such as Spritzee and Croagunk, both of which are rather common in the current metagame. (thank you for adding this ^_^)

Team Options
========

Venonat is going to appreciate appreciates any means of entry hazard removal so it can keep its Focus Sash intact. A good Baton Pass recipient is crucial if you intend on handing off to pass Agility boosts (the purpose of the set); slow but powerful Pokemon, such as Cranidos and Darumaka, can make great use of +2 Speed to sweep the opposing team. If you intend to make a Baton Pass chain, other Pokemon with boosting moves and Baton Pass are great partners, especially if they can cover some of Venonat's weaknesses; Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Torchic and Mime Jr. accomplish this quite nicely.

Other Options
########

Venonat has access to Disable,(AC) which, when paired with Subsitute Substitute, can lead to some fun shenanigans. Skill Swap can be used with Compound-Eyes Compound Eyes + Sleep Powder to give the user some unique options like getting Regenerator from an opposing Slowpoke to aid in Venonat's longevity. Stun Spore is an option if you decide to take the utility route with Venonat, letting it spread paralysis and sleep throughout the opponent's team. Toxic Spikes can also be used, and can easily be set up after sleeping the foe Pokemon putting the active foe to sleep.

Checks and Counters
########

**Flying-types**: If Venonat's Focus Sash is broken, or if it's running Eviolite, it can easily be KOed by a strong Flying-type move,(AC) and although it can still use Sleep Powder and Baton Pass Agility boosts in some cases, it's usually too risky against these types of enemies.

**Vullaby**: Vullaby is a huge threat to Venonat as it is immune to Sleep Powder thanks to Overcoat and can easily take quite a few Bug Bites, while being able to scare Venonat out with Brave Bird. (this should either be added onto the Flying-types segment above or made distinct in the opening sentence here that Vullaby is threatening in ways that warrant it a separate segment; something like "Vullaby is a Flying-type that threatens Venonat for reasons other than simply its typing" would work well)

**Fast Taunt users**: Anything that can outspeed Venonat and use Taunt instantly shuts it down, especially if the Taunt-user resists Venonat's Bug-type STAB move (Misdreavus, Gastly). (You totally missed Mienfoo here, as it resists Bug as well and already has a common Taunt set that's designed to shut down opposing Dwebble)

**Bulky Grass-types**: Bulky Grass-type Pokemon, such as Cottonee and Foongus, are unaffected by Sleep Powder and can Encore or Spore Venonat, respectively. (It should also be noted that these two Grass-types mentioned in here in particular have a secondary type that neutralizes their Bug weakness)

**Phazing moves**: Moves such as Roar and Whirlwind will nullify Venonat's stat boosts and,(AC) if hazards are set up, it can result in a broken Focus Sash later in the game.

**Rock-types**: Rock-type Pokemon can easily take a hit from Venonat and faster Pokemon, such as Onix and Dwebble, and can knock out Venonat with Rock Blast, regardless as to of whether it has a Focus Sash or not.

**Stealth Rock**: Stealth Rock puts a damper on Venonat's longevity, limiting the amount of times it can switch in and Baton Pass boosts.

**Early Bird Houndour**: Early Bird Houndour is a solid check to Venonat, not caring too much about a Sleep Powder and being able to easily KO OHKO with a Fire Blast, all while being able to hit the Baton Pass recipient with a strong STAB move.

Well written. Please note my comments. :)

frenzyplant, I'd have gone over your GP check if you were online when I saw this. If you'd like for me to stamp some of your checks in the future, contact me on Smogon or on IRC in #grammar. :)

GP 1/2

implemented, thanks for the check

 

[tehy]

Amcheck

You ought to mention sub again in the last-slot section, and emphasize it as something you pass, too.

Skill swap sounds like 100% ass. If you cant pass and have nothing to do to the switchin, honestly id prefer toxic, even on a mon like this.

Sash is mentioned and emphasized a lot for a third slash.

The vullaby thing bri suggested is a great start, but you gotta explain the reason, overcoat and maybe whirlwind.

Overview
########

With access to Compound Eyes and Sleep Powder, Venonat can becomcreate a huge disruption for the opponent. Its ability to Baton Pass an Agility boost after putting the foe to sleep is only more of a plusadds to its utility. Add a nifty resitance to Fighting- and Fairy-type moves into the picture, and you have a unique and enjoyable Pokemon to use. However, Venonat does suffer from its Bug-typing by being weak to Stealth Rock, Rock-types, Fire-types and Flying-types, all of which are rather common in Little Cup. It's also obliterated by Fletchling and is usually inferior to Torchic when it comes to Baton Passing speed boosts. All in all, Venonat can still function as a good user of Baton Pass with its unique advantages.

Baton Pass
########
name: Baton Pass
move 1: Baton Pass
move 2: Agility / Substitute
move 3: Sleep Powder
move 4: Bug Bite / Substitute / Morning Sun / Protect
ability: Compound Eyes
item: Eviolite / Berry Juice / Focus Sash
evs: 116 HP / 76 Atk / 36 Def / 236 Spe
nature: Jolly

Moves
========

Baton Pass is the highlight of the set because, well, it's a Baton Pass set. Agility is Venonat's boosting move of choice and can be passed to slow sweepers such as Cranidos and Corphish. Substitute can be used to block status moves and in particular, set up on Pokemon such as Foongus and Ferroseed. Sleep Powder is fantastic when combined with Compound Eyes, boosting its accuracy to 97%, which makes it much easier to set up an Agility and Baton Pass to a teammate. The final moveslot can vary, and each move works in tandem with one of Venonat's item options. Bug Bite prevents Venonat from being entirely crippled by Taunt, Morning Sun allows for reliable recovery, and Protect is nice for blocking a Fake Out intended to break Venonat's Focus Sash. Substitute can be used to block status moves and in particular, set up on Pokemon such as Foongus and Ferroseed.

Set Details
========

The EVs give Venonat a 24/12/12 spreaddefenses and it hits 15 speed with a Jolly Nature. The item is up to personal preference and team structure. A more fast-paced team might lean towards Focus Sash + Protect, while a bulkier team might prefer Eviolite. Berry Juice is best used in conjunction with Substitute, to provide a reliable means of recovery.

Usage Tips
========

The moveset is rather simple to use. If you have it, use Protect on the first turn to block a possible Fake Out, then proceed to use Sleep Powder. Set up an Agility and then Baton Pass it to a powerful Pokemon and attempt to sweep the opposing team -- this is particularly helpful for allowing slower offensive Pokemon a means to sweep. If utilizing a Substitute set, Venonat can still successfully set up on Pokemon such as Foongus that, who could otherwise stop Venonat in its tracks. Venonat can also switch in and set up on Pokemon such as Spritzee and Croagunk, both of which are rather common in the current metagame.

Team Options
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Venonat appreciates any means of entry hazard removal so it can keep its Focus Sash intact. A good Baton Pass recipient is crucial if you intend to pass Agility boosts; slow but powerful Pokemon, such as Cranidos and Darumaka, can make great use of +2 Speed to sweep the opposing team. If you intend to make a Baton Pass chain, other Pokemon with boosting moves and Baton Pass are great partners, especially if they can cover some of Venonat's weaknesses; Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Torchic and Mime Jr. accomplish this quite nicely.

Other Options
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Venonat has access to Disable, which, when paired with Substitute, can lead to some fun shenanigans. Skill Swap can be used with Compound Eyes + Sleep Powder to give the user some unique options like getting Regenerator from an opposing Slowpoke to aid in Venonat's longevity. Stun Spore is an option if you decide to take the utility route with Venonat, letting it spread paralysis and sleep throughout the opponent's team. Toxic Spikes can also be used, and can easily be set up after putting the active foe to sleep.

Checks and Counters
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**Flying-types**: If Venonat's Focus Sash is broken, or if it's running Eviolite, it can easily be KOed by a strong Flying-type move, and although it can still use Sleep Powder and Baton Pass Agility boosts in some cases, it's usually too risky against these types of enemies. Vullaby is a Flying-type that threatens Venonat for reasons other than simply its typing.

**Fast Taunt users**: Anything that can outspeed Venonat and use Taunt instantly shuts it down, especially if the Taunt- user resists Venonat's Bug-type STAB move (Gastly, Mienfoo).

**Bulky Grass-types**: Bulky Grass-type Pokemon, such as Cottonee and Foongus, are unaffected by Sleep Powder and can Encore or Spore Venonat, respectively. HoweverIn addition, both of these Pokemon have secondary typings that neutralize their Bug-type weakness.

**Phazing moves**: Moves such as Roar and Whirlwind will nullify Venonat's stat boosts and if, hazards are set up, it can result in a broken Focus Sash later in the game.

**Rock-types**: Rock-type Pokemon can easily take a hit from Venonat and faster Pokemon, such as Onix and Dwebble, can knock out Venonat with Rock Blast, regardless of whether it has a Focus Sash or not.

**Stealth Rock**: Stealth Rock puts a damper on Venonat's longevity, limiting the amount of times it can switch in and Baton Pass boosts.

**Early Bird Houndour**: Early Bird Houndour is a solid check to Venonat, not caring too much about Sleep Powder and being able to easily OHKO with Fire Blast, all while being able to hit the Baton Pass recipient with a strong STAB move.

 

[Muk]

Champion Fizz

stamping the above check, but adding several things:

Hide

overview:

resitance -> resistance

Bug-typing -> Bug typing


moves:

change the sentence about Sleep Powder to this: Sleep Powder is fantastic when combined with Compound Eyes, which boosts its accuracy to 97%, making it much easier for Venonat to set up an Agility and Baton Pass to a teammate.


usage tips:

allowing -> giving

utilizing a Substitute set -> using Substitute

who (the one tehy added) -> which


other options:

remove "with Compound Eyes + Sleep Powder"

add a comma after "options"

add "they" or "it" after the "and" in the sentence about Toxic Spikes


checks and counters:

capitalize "users" and "moves" in the titles of their respective bullets

reword the bit about Gastly and Mienfoo such that you actually include it in the sentence lol

under the phazing moves bullet, move the comma after "if" so that it's after "boosts". also, under the same bullet, hazards -> entry hazards and it -> phazing

under the rock-types bullet, add a comma after the first "Venonat" and remove the one after "Rock Blast"

do all this and GP 2/2

i probably should have just gone through this normally but whatever lol

 

[doomsday doink]

Champion Fizz

stamping the above check, but adding several things:

Hide

overview:

resitance -> resistance

Bug-typing -> Bug typing


moves:

change the sentence about Sleep Powder to this: Sleep Powder is fantastic when combined with Compound Eyes, which boosts its accuracy to 97%, making it much easier for Venonat to set up an Agility and Baton Pass to a teammate.


usage tips:

allowing -> giving

utilizing a Substitute set -> using Substitute

who (the one tehy added) -> which


other options:

remove "with Compound Eyes + Sleep Powder"

add a comma after "options"

add "they" or "it" after the "and" in the sentence about Toxic Spikes


checks and counters:

capitalize "users" and "moves" in the titles of their respective bullets

reword the bit about Gastly and Mienfoo such that you actually include it in the sentence lol

under the phazing moves bullet, move the comma after "if" so that it's after "boosts". also, under the same bullet, hazards -> entry hazards and it -> phazing

under the rock-types bullet, add a comma after the first "Venonat" and remove the one after "Rock Blast"

do all this and GP 2/2

i probably should have just gone through this normally but whatever lol

Implemented, thanks for the check :D

 

[tehy]

In case you werent clear he meant my check too

Also please read and implement my comments

Oh yeah, i think who>which because its pokemon such as foongus

 

[Rowan]

uploaded