Gen 4 Sample Teams for Starting Ubers (Community Thread) [WIP]

[faint]

With all of this talk about banning things from Ubers, I thought it would be a good idea to take a step back and remember the days when Ubers was nothing but pure fun. Following Fireburn’s [Gen 6] Sample Teams for Starting Ubers, I decided we needed a similar thread for the superior generation of Ubers, DPP. DPP is often considered to be one of the most balanced Ubers metagames. While Arceus was allowed in very late DPP in the form of “Farceus” (an arceus with 100 EV’s across every stat), current DPP Ubers tournaments and most casual matches do not Arceus in play. The lack of Arceus in DPP allowed for a much more versatile metagame. Sure, mons like Kyogre and Groudon were still as popular as ever, but as the tier aged so did the average play style. While early DPP teams were often stallish and slow, many later teams took a form of heavy offense, which one may attribute to the heavy offense phase DPP OU suffered when Deoxys-S was first dropped from Ubers to OU.

But the purpose of this thread is not to explain the differences between DPP and its future (and past) counterparts, but instead to give newer players an equal opportunity to participate in this fantastic tier. I have taken teams which I believe serve as the best representation of the tier with some help from some very high profile players during the generation. As this is a community thread, you are free to submit teams of your own, and I would encourage active participation in this thread as a whole. I believe the best way to decide if a team should be submitted is by majority, so if the community AND high profile players during DPP believe a team should be submitted, I would be more than happy to add it here. Because my time will be cut short in the near future, anyone willing to volunteer to write brief descriptions of the submitted teams would be playing a large part in giving this tier a second chance at its past glory.

[Don't judge me for using XY sprites in a DPP thread]

STALL

Japanese Killer Wasp's - 6A9 Ace Matador

Importable

Groudon @ Leftovers
Trait: Drought
EVs: 240 HP / 176 Def / 86 SDef / 8 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Roar
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw

Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Toxic Spikes
- Spikes
- Rest
- Rapid Spin

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
IVs: 0 Atk
- Aromatherapy
- Softboiled
- Toxic
- Seismic Toss

Giratina @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 36 SDef / 4 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Will-O-Wisp
- Dragon Claw
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Shedinja @ Focus Sash
Trait: Wonder Guard
EVs: 255 Atk / 255 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Shadow Sneak
- Baton Pass
- Toxic
- Protect

Mewtwo @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
IVs: 0 Atk
- Will-O-Wisp
- Taunt
- Substitute / Ice Beam
- Recover

The Stall Team Used Every Week in Smogon Tour - Earthworm

Importable

Groudon @ Leftovers
Trait: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 180 Def / 74 SDef / 4 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Roar
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw

Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Toxic Spikes
- Spikes
- Rest
- Rapid Spin

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
IVs: 0 Atk
- Aromatherapy
- Softboiled
- Toxic
- Seismic Toss

Latias @ Soul Dew
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 112 HP / 204 SpA / 192
Timid Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
IVs: 0 Atk
- Dragon Pulse
- Grass Knot
- Calm Mind
- Recover

Shedinja @ Focus Sash
Trait: Wonder Guard
EVs: 255 Atk / 255 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Shadow Sneak
- Baton Pass
- Toxic
- Protect

Kyogre @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 240 HP / 244 Def / 24 Spe
Bold Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
IVs: 0 Atk
- Surf
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Description

Japanese Killer Wasps is a great example of a classic Uber stall team. Unlike the stall teams at this current time, stall teams back then focused entirely on outstalling the opponent. This team dates back to shortly after Platinum’s release, where the dominant team set up is Deoxys-S and 4-5 powerful attackers, often unaccompanied by a spin blocker. By using Forretress to easily set up and spin entry hazards, and Shedinja to wall a decent portion of the metagame, as well as the unorthodox Taunt/Will-o-Wisp Mewtwo to defeat opposing stall teams, this team often gave Ace Matador the upper hand against many battlers during that time, and remained in the top 5 in the Uber leaderboard for quite some time.

Earthworm's stall team, while similar, forgoes Stalltwo and Giratina in favor of the more reliable Kyogre check, Latias. Both teams continue to utilize Shedinja as an excellent pivot, as it comes in easily on mons such as Kyogre, forcing them to switch, while gaining for a free Baton Pass to the respective counter of whatever their opponent brought in. This actively keeps the momentum in EW's and Ace Matador's favor, despite both of them using pure stall teams. Earthworm's inclusion of Kyogre also not only allows for dual weather, but also as a late game sweeper when he has significantly weakened his opponents team using his various hazards.

Rising From the Storms - Jibaku

Importable

Groudon @ Leftovers
Trait: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 196 Def / 32 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Stealth Rock
- Roar

Giratina-O (Giratina-O) @ Griseous Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 86 HP / 216 SAtk / 92 SDef / 116 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Pulse
- Substitute
- Thunder

Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Payback
- Toxic Spikes

Palkia @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 136 Atk / 120 SAtk / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Flamethrower
- Outrage
- Spacial Rend
- Thunder

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def / 252 SDef / 4 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Toxic
- Seismic Toss
- Wish
- Protect

Kyogre @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Calm Mind
- Rest

HEAVY OFFENSE

Lucario & Friends - Faint

Importable

Froslass (F) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Snow Cloak
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Icy Wind
- Shadow Ball
- Spikes
- Destiny Bond

Dialga @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Outrage
- Fire Blast
- Stealth Rock

Palkia @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Spacial Rend
- Surf
- Thunder
- Draco Meteor

Giratina (Giratina-Origin) @ Griseous Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 Atk / 60 SpA / 200 Spe
Lonely Nature
- Shadow Sneak
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Claw

Lucario (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Crunch
- ExtremeSpeed

Rayquaza @ Life Orb
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- ExtremeSpeed
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake

Description

This team of mine was designed to overrun my opponent with hard hitters to eventually find a late game sweep with either Lucario or Rayquaza. Similarly to the Rayquaza + Salamence core that was used by some players during DPP, many teams are generally only capable of handing either Lucario or Rayquaza, but not both. Because the most problematic mons that can stop a +2 Extremespeed sweep are bulky steels like Choice Scarf Jirachi, I tacked on a dual steel resist in Dialga + Palkia to help with that. Dialga has the added benefit of being a Hasty nature to outspeed offensive Groudon and the like with ease. Outrage 2HKO's RestTalk Kyogre which is nice too. Giratina-O is just an all around excellent mon in DPP. It's a great revenge killer with Shadow Sneak, handles Groudon relatively well and destroys unsuspecting Scizor + Forry so long as the sun is up.

Meteor Shower - reachzero

Importable

Rayquaza @ Life Orb
Trait: Air Lock
EVs: 40 Atk / 252 SAtk / 216 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Draco Meteor
- Brick Break / Outrage
- ExtremeSpeed
- Fire Blast

Dialga @ Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Draco Meteor
- Flamethrower
- Outrage
- Stealth Rock

Scizor (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Technician
EVs: 244 HP / 20 Atk / 76 Def / 168 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Superpower
- Roost

Palkia @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Spacial Rend
- Surf
- Fire Blast
- Outrage

Groudon @ Leftovers
Trait: Drought
EVs: 200 HP / 112 Atk / 108 Def / 88 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Thunder Wave
- Swords Dance
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Mewtwo @ Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 24 Atk / 252 SAtk / 232 Spd
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Aura Sphere
- Ice Beam
- Selfdestruct
- Flamethrower

Description

Reachzero's team was a huge contributing factor to the increase of lead Rayquaza's. While previously lead Rayquaza's often ran focus sash, reachzero opted for Life Orb to be able to 2HKO threats like Deoxys-S with Fire Blast + ExtremeSpeed and non specially defensive Groudon with Draco Meteor. reachzero opted for Brick Break > Outrage for the ability to OHKO Tyranitar, but it also has the added benefit of breaking screens in case you run into Baton Pass.

Scizor + Dialga act as reachzero's primary resists while still keeping offensive pressure with fast, offensive Dialga and U-Turn Scizor. Palkia acts as his much needed scarfer and he mentioned he opted for Outrage as he hates relying on Thunder's accuracy, but it should be noted that Outrage also has the added benefit of OHKOing Latias, 2HKOing most Kyogre, and not being completely walled by Blissey.

Shadows and Dust - Deep Thought

Importable

Mew @ Lum Berry
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 36 Atk / 220 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Explosion
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt
- U-turn

Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 200 HP / 56 Atk / 252 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Pursuit
- Superpower
- U-turn

Kyogre @ Choice Specs
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 220 HP / 252 SAtk / 36 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Thunder
- Water Spout

Rayquaza @ Choice Band
Trait: Air Lock
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- ExtremeSpeed
- Outrage

Dialga @ Choice Specs
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse
- Flamethrower
- Thunder

Mewtwo @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Aura Sphere
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Taunt

BALANCE

 

[BKC]

the first 3 are my favorite teams i made for this past upl and the last is my best one, which i used all throughout the first upl as well as crystal geodude. i'll edit in descriptions soon.

Qwilfish + Ludicolo balance

Qwilfish (M) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Toxic Spikes
- Payback
- Aqua Jet
- Explosion

Dialga @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 112 SAtk / 120 SDef / 28 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Stealth Rock
- Dragon Pulse
- Flamethrower
- Roar

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 248 HP / 16 Def / 244 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Spikes
- Whirlwind
- Roost
- Toxic

Giratina-O @ Griseous Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Pulse
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Kyogre @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 64 HP / 252 SAtk / 192 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Water Spout
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunder

BRO FIST (Ludicolo) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Protect
- Ice Beam

Cloyster offense

Cloyster (M) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Payback
- Ice Shard
- Spikes
- Toxic Spikes

Dialga @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 16 SAtk / 204 SDef / 40 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Dragon Pulse
- Thunder
- Roar
- Stealth Rock

Giratina-O @ Griseous Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 244 Atk / 216 SAtk / 48 Spd
Rash Nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Shadow Sneak
- Earthquake
- Thunder
- Draco Meteor

Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Atk / 16 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Pursuit
- Superpower

Palkia @ Lustrous Orb
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Spacial Rend
- Hydro Pump
- Thunder
- Fire Blast

Kyogre @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Water Spout
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunder

Scarf Dialga stall

Giratina-O @ Griseous Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 212 Atk / 140 SAtk / 156 Spd
Rash Nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Draco Meteor
- Shadow Sneak
- Stone Edge
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Protect
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Payback

Groudon @ Leftovers
Trait: Drought
EVs: 248 HP / 96 Def / 164 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Roar

Kyogre @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Surf
- Roar
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Toxic
- Iron Head

Dialga @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 64 HP / 252 SAtk / 192 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Dragon Pulse
- Thunder

ReinkaΩs (CM Roar Kyogre balance)

forbid light (Tyranitar) (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 248 HP / 24 Atk / 12 Def / 16 SAtk / 164 SDef / 44 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Fire Blast
- Payback
- Stealth Rock
- Superpower

xeper-i-set (Forretress) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Payback
- Protect
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

black dragon (Giratina-O) @ Griseous Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 136 Atk / 60 Def / 36 SDef / 28 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Shadow Sneak
- Will-O-Wisp

maha kali (Latias) (F) @ Soul Dew
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 136 HP / 176 SAtk / 196 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Pulse
- Recover
- Thunder

reinkaΩs (Kyogre) @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 248 HP / 228 Def / 32 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

starless eon (Jirachi) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Ice Punch
- Iron Head
- Trick
- U-turn

 

[Jirachee]

hot

Here are some of my teams from upl, the first went 2-0 (against M Dragon and afterburn) and the second went 1-1 (lost vs Ojama, won vs Iconic)

Special HO

Deoxys-Speed @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes
- Taunt
- Hidden Power [Fire]

is whale (Kyogre) @ Lum Berry
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Thunder
- Ice Beam
- Calm Mind

Palkia @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Spacial Rend
- Surf
- Thunder
- Outrage

Latios (M) @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Surf
- Recover
- Calm Mind

Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Pursuit
- Superpower

Darkrai @ Life Orb
Ability: Bad Dreams
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Dark Pulse
- Dark Void
- Focus Blast
- Nasty Plot

this team basically works by creating mometum from turn 1 and then it's really hard to stop it without something faster. Lum CM Ogre fucks with stall so bad it's not even funny. No spinblocker might seem counter intuitive with a Deoxys lead but HP Fire helps with that, as well as the very low amount of opportunities the opponent has to spin against it. Scizor's the only physical member for lack of a good special counterpart. Everything on the team hits as hard as possible to avoid giving free heals to defensive mons. Scarf Palkia mostly helps vs offense.

Deo-N lead

Deoxys @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 24 Atk / 112 Def / 136 SpA / 236 Spe
Rash Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes
- Shadow Ball
- Extreme Speed

Maria (Giratina-Origin) @ Griseous Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 176 Atk / 36 Def / 32 SpD / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Shadow Sneak
- Will-O-Wisp

Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 96 Atk / 164 SpD
Adamant Nature
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit

Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 128 HP / 252 Atk / 128 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Rock Polish
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw

Rayquaza @ Life Orb
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 40 Atk / 252 SpA / 216 Spe
Rash Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Earthquake
- Extreme Speed

Palkia @ Haban Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Spacial Rend
- Fire Blast
- Thunder
- Outrage

Made this with BKC right before upl. Deo-N is kind of an odd lead but it does well against other Deoxys leads, especially the Speed forme. Rest of the team is pretty standard I guess, DD Groudon is an animal.

 

[faint]

I'm looking for the original owner of the team Iconic used here: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ubers-12385

I've seen a lot of players change it around a bit so I'll list what I see of it below often. I want to add it to the OP but I'd like know whoever made it (could be Iconic for all I know).

Deo-S / CM Latios / SubCM Giratina-O / Wobb / Lucario / CM Taunt Mewtwo w/ LO or sometimes just 4 attacks

 

[tutterydiglett]

As a player who started competitive Ubers back in late BW2, I have to say, this tier is really damn refreshing. No team preview, no Ekiller, no Xerneas, just innovative sets and some really cool strategies. Thanks to absdaddy for teaching me how to play in DPP. It's really fun. For players who haven't tried DPP yet, give it a shot!

 

[zf]

I'm looking for the original owner of the team Iconic used here: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ubers-12385

I've seen a lot of players change it around a bit so I'll list what I see of it below often. I want to add it to the OP but I'd like know whoever made it (could be Iconic for all I know).

Deo-S / CM Latios / SubCM Giratina-O / Wobb / Lucario / CM Taunt Mewtwo w/ LO or sometimes just 4 attacks

The team used in that replay is august's Henry. Obviously, it's not the exact variant you're looking for, but it is what Iconic is using imo.

 

[absdaddy]

i'd honestly suggest putting/using updated Japanese Killer Wasps there instead of shedinja variant

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Groudon @ Lum Berry
Ability: Drought
EVs: 240 HP / 176 Def / 4 SpD / 88 Spe
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Roar
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Toxic Spikes
- Spikes
- Payback
- Rapid Spin

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Protect
- Wish
- Toxic
- Seismic Toss

Giratina-Origin @ Griseous Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 64 HP / 252 Def / 192 Spe
Timid Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Palkia @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Spacial Rend
- Thunder
- Fire Blast
- Draco Meteor

Mewtwo @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Taunt
- Substitute
- Recover

love the thread idea though, i've heard quite a few times that not being able to build properly was the factor that was driving new people away, hopefully this thread will change it a bit - might post something in the future

 

[Sweep]

Team Untitled 22 (Offense built around SubSalac Garchomp)

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Tyranitar @ Focus Sash
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Crunch
- Fire Blast
- Low Kick

Garchomp @ Salac Berry
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Substitute
- Swords Dance

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 248 HP / 240 SpD / 20 Spe
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Protect
- U-turn
- Wish

Giratina-Origin @ Griseous Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 108 HP / 56 Atk / 252 SpA / 92 Spe
Mild Nature
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Draco Meteor
- Shadow Sneak
- Outrage

Deoxys-Attack @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Psycho Boost
- Superpower
- Extreme Speed
- Shadow Ball

Palkia @ Lustrous Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Spacial Rend
- Thunder
- Fire Blast

I'm new to Gen 4, but this is my best team and I managed to peak the gen 4 ladder & go 4-0 in Ubersstars using mostly this build. Garchomp has an excellent base tier of 102, allowing it to outrun most dragons barring the Lati twins and Choice Scarf users. Once Salac Berry activates, even these dragons will get outrun and destroyed. Its high Speed and excellent offensive presence makes setting up Substitutes very easy, and Sand Veil often allows Chompy to obtain free Swords Dances if sand is up. With TTar and Garchomp decided upon, I knew I needed a check for Kyogre and a powerful wallbreaker in general, so I chose Palkia for the role. I also needed a check to Scarf Palkia and Dialga, both of which I was very weak to. I wound up picking specially defensive Jirachi and liberally abuse its slow U-Turns so it does not bring the team's offensive pressure to a halt. Giratina-O gave the team a much-needed Ground immunity and priority, and LO Deoxys-A is just a ridiculous Pokemon with sick power and coverage; it improves the team's match-up vs. Stall tremendously.

I've considered making Tyranitar a bulkier variant instead of the pure suicide lead it currently is. Doing so would give the team a better chance of keeping sand up, making enemy weather sweepers useless and increasing Garchomp's chances of haxing with Sand Veil. However, the current set has a great match-up vs common leads and usually gets me off to good starts, so if I can keep / continue to build up momentum I have an excellent chance of winning. This team is extremely weak to Skarmory, so I've considered running a coverage move over Shadow Ball on Deoxys to deal with it. I like nailing Mewtwo and Latios though! Jirachee helped a little with this IIRC, I know I showed it to him on IRC.

 

[Aquasition]

Here's an offensive team I've had some success with:

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Deoxys-Attack @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Signal Beam
- ExtremeSpeed
- Ice Beam

Rayquaza @ Life Orb
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- ExtremeSpeed
- Dragon Claw
- Overheat

Wobbuffet @ Leftovers
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 28 HP / 228 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Counter
- Mirror Coat
- Encore
- Tickle

Giratina-Origin @ Griseous Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 56 SpA / 200 Spe
Lonely Nature
- Earthquake
- Draco Meteor
- Shadow Sneak
- Dragon Claw

Scizor @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 200 HP / 56 Atk / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Pursuit
- Superpower

Kyogre @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Water Spout
- Surf
- Thunder
- Ice Beam

Well, this team is built around Scarf Kyogre, and weakening its checks. Deo-A is being used as the lead, as I kind of want the oop's lead out of the way as soon as possible, Signal beam is there to remove both Deo Formes, and hurt T-tar, whilst E-speed helps remove other deoxys. Ray is there to smash holes in things, like it was a proto-Ekiller, especially since finding an opportunity isn't too difficult in this gen. Yes, SD+Overheat is a thing in gen 4. Gira-O is in the same boat as Rayquaza, helping punch holes into the opposition, so one weakens a check, the other one smashed through.

Wobba is to trap stuff, mainly the likes of Blissey, Lati@s, and Palkia. While a mirror coat removes the latter two, Blissey is taken down by tickle+ pursuit. Yes, I'll likely lose Wobba in the process, but removing a team's best Kyogre stopper is worth it... usually. Scizor is the obligatory Dragon resist, and also pursuit traps the latis, non-Stalltwo/Flamethrower mewtwo, and Tickled Pokemon, as well as momentum-grabbing with U-turn, and being a 3rd source of priority via bullet punch.

Kyogre, I usually switch in twice. The first time to cause an opponent to switch to their Kyogre Stopper, usually after Deo-A gets KO'd, the second time sometime after Wobba removes the check. That STAB water spout just destroys, and with the opposing team's kyogre stoppers out of the way, it can often just rack up KO after KO.

How to use this team: try to anti-lead with Deo-A, trap and KO Kyogre Stoppers like Palkia using Wobba, use Rayquaza and Giratina to cause more destruction, and eventually, just have Kyogre use Water Spout.

 

[Furai]

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/vulcan-fury-an-uber-rmt.71305/

flamethrowa had a very similar team as well, both posted their rmts at the same time but flamethrowa's got deleted :(

kevin posted some sexy ass teams.

these are worth a look too http://www.smogon.com/rmt/archive/dpp

 

[Iris]

people asked me so ok!!!

Note: all of my teams will beat iconic. This is a fact.

First is Neuer Neuer. One day on shoddy i thought of a tentacruel lead and wanted to piss off iconic so i added dual sub seeders. What was supposed to be a joke turned out to be quite a cool team that ive changed very few times over the years. Giratina has had hp fire / stone edge / thunder / no eq / etc and ludicolo had grass knot for a little bit for sub cm kyogres. As for accolades, the team was used like 9 times in crystal geodude for an 8-1 record and recently won some gen 4 round steel was in. oh, i beat iconic in upl with it this year.

i hope this hides the team!!

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Manuel Neuer (Tentacruel) (F) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic Spikes

Manuel Neuer (Shaymin-Sky) @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Air Slash
- Leech Seed
- Seed Flare
- Substitute

Manuel Neuer (Giratina-Origin) @ Griseous Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 236 Atk / 212 SpA / 56 Spe
Lonely Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Earthquake
- Thunder
- Shadow Sneak

Manuel Neuer (Dialga) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Flamethrower
- Aura Sphere
- Outrage

Ciele (Ludicolo) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Rain Dish
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
Calm Nature
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Protect
- Ice Beam

cbb (Jirachi) @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Wish
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Wave
- Iron Head

This one is another famous team made in the shoddy days with a long lost dude named creelart. We both split on some differences like lugia and he had a gira o over forretress but the core was the same. While having some horrible matchups (sr leftovers dialga / gira a's / ho ohs), it more often than not will beat very common deoxys a / s offenses. this team was built largely from memory so i added sub whirlwind on lugia only recently as its my favorite lugia and reflect is quite lame. Armaldo was lum but since lead darkrais are non-existant and LO Rays are all the rage now, sash fits better. The only problem with non lum is the trick scarf deoxys s that jibaku uses and people imitate. Wish CM no protect is legit. F hsa. It is 2-0 in upl but i think it lost to someone in crystal geodude.

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Armaldo (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Battle Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- X-Scissor
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock
- Rock Blast

Forretress (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Payback
- Spikes
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin

Shedinja @ Focus Sash
Ability: Wonder Guard
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- X-Scissor
- Shadow Sneak
- Will-O-Wisp
- Baton Pass

Lugia @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 44 Def / 216 Spe
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Whirlwind
- Substitute
- Roost

NEUER (Kyogre) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Water Spout
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunder

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Wish
- Calm Mind
- Thunder
- Ice Beam

The last one for now is a cool team that uses or used some lesser seen pokemon and sets. Skarmory is almost never seen but destroys a lot of teams. Most groudons do not run fire moves anymore, scizors / jirachis are the usual dragon checks now, gira o can usually never touch it in rain or sand with SpD with just Hp fire, lugias, bu dialgas; even deoxys a's as they used like SR / Grass Knot / super power / espeed / shadow ball / spikes. Tyranitars were really uncommon when i made this team and i can only name locopoke as someone whom really used it frequently. It beat deoxys s and non LO Darkrais and dialgas which were all the common leads of the era. Now ttars are quite common, especially the fast variants with sash. A cool ttar that people need to use is sash counter tar used by ciele a lot!! Scarf metagross was really just to take people by surprise and beat SD rays. I thought i had ice punch but i guess i went with earthquake. Trick allows last ditch cm kyogres / bu dialgas / bu palkias (!!) / CM lugias / etc to fail. Now everyone switches out of metagross because scarf is now the norm which is stupid and defeats the purpose of my gimmicks!

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Tyranitar (M) @ Lum Berry
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 192 SpD / 8 Spe
Brave Nature
- Crunch
- Fire Blast
- Superpower
- Stealth Rock

Metagross @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Trick
- Earthquake
- Explosion

Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 SpD
Impish Nature
- Toxic
- Spikes
- Whirlwind
- Roost

Latias (F) @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 40 SpA / 196 Spe
Timid Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Calm Mind
- Thunder
- Roost

Giratina (Giratina-Origin) @ Griseous Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 196 HP / 252 Atk / 60 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Shadow Sneak
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw

Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Bold Nature
- Surf
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Don't use the worms / am teams unless you lead Forretress. His team relied on DP gameplay where no gira os existed so offense never had a spin blocker. If you must, lead with forrey and change blissey's evs!!

Last thing yo, Jolly Sheddy always. Outpacing skizzors for the baton pass is way more important than doing whatever pathetic damage the lil dude can do!

 

[Art Vandelay]

surprised no Darkrai teams have showed up yet. Also where are the Mew BP teams?

 

[SoulWind]

great thread idea & sexy teams dudes

i just wanted to nitpick out Iris that on his MANUEL NEUER team Jirachi should be careful>calm nature to do more dmg with iron head, and on the metagross team latias misses out 20 EVs

thanks for sharing with us guys, wish i could contribute too but i haven't played the tier in 2 years and i brought shitty teams to upl :[

 

[Iris]

oh thanks dude. My B yo. I'd start putting 32 evs on jirachi for all the fast tars now too. So to all building teams now do that!

and i guess just add 20 to attack on latias. Maybe max speed is worth it these days...