UU Shaymin

Taken over from Magnemite

Overview
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Shaymin cements itself in UU as one of the premier special wallbreakers in the tier. Possessing a 120 Base Power STAB move that has the added bonus of cutting Special Defense in half 40% of the time, Shaymin can easily blast through a lot of would-be checks or counters. Tacked onto this is Shaymin's good coverage and solid base 100 stat distribution across the board, making Shaymin a Pokemon with bulk, Speed, coverage, and power all wrapped into one. However, Shaymin's main STAB move Seed Flare, while having such a fantastic side effect, is plagued by the fact it's only 85% accurate and has 8 PP, meaning it is not as easy to spam as one might have thought. But, with the popularity of bulky Water-types in the tier and good neutral coverage that Grass-type moves have, Shaymin is definitely a threat to watch out for.

Life Orb
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name: Life Orb
move 1: Seed Flare
move 2: Earth Power / Dazzling Gleam
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Synthesis / Rest
ability: Natural Cure
item: Life Orb
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
========

Seed Flare is going to be the move Shaymin will be using most of the time, as it is Shaymin's main STAB move and quite spammable due to the 40% chance to halve Special Defense. Earth Power allows Shaymin to hit Steel-types such as Jirachi and Metagross while Dazzling Gleam can be used to surprise Hydreigon trying to come in on Seed Flare. Psychic is necessary to hit one of Shaymin's main counters, Crobat, which has a decent chance to be OHKOed after Stealth Rock. Air Slash offers better coverage against Grass-types such as Celebi, and also has the added bonus of being able to OHKO Virizion and Chesnaught, something none of Shaymin's other moves are capable of. Synthesis grants Shaymin immediate, repeatable recovery, while Rest can be used in conjunction with Natural Cure to heal off any damage Shaymin has taken, removing sleep upon switching out. Healing Wish is also an extremely good option for Shaymin as it allows a Pokemon to be brought back up to full HP and cured of any status ailments at the cost of Shaymin being KOed.

Set Details
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The EVs are pretty self-explanatory. Maximum Speed and Special Attack investment allows Shaymin to be as fast and powerful as possible. Life Orb helps Shaymin wallbreak and isn't too problematic as Shaymin has a form of recovery in either Rest or Synthesis to offset Life Orb recoil. Choice Specs can be used over Life Orb for added power but this exacerbates the dilemma of Seed Flare's already low PP, and the freedom to switch moves with Life Orb is nice to have.

Usage Tips
========

Shaymin should be coming in on bulky Water-types such as Suicune and Swampert as much as possible and proceeding to wallbreak with its powerful Life Orb-boosted moves. Seed Flare is the move Shaymin will be clicking the majority of the time, and when paired with its coverage moves, can let it get past a lot of would-be counters such as Jirachi with -2 Special Defense using Earth Power. Try to use Seed Flare sparingly though, as it only has 8 PP.

Team Options
========

Pokemon that enjoy bulky Water-types being removed are nice to pair with Shaymin. This includes, but isn't limited to, Victini, Mega Aerodactyl, Krookodile, and Mienshao. Shaymin appreciates Pokemon that can take advantage of or lure in special walls, such as Superpower Hydreigon or Superpower Nidoking. Finally, Shaymin pairs well with Pokemon that enjoy the sight of special walls, such as Substitute + Calm Mind Chandelure, which can set up on a lot of Pokemon, such as Blissey, that would otherwise wall Shaymin.

Leech Seed
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name: Leech Seed
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Seed Flare
move 3: Psychic / Air Slash
move 4: Substitute / Protect
ability: Natural Cure
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
========

Leech Seed is used in order to wear down the special walls that would otherwise do a pretty decent job of walling Shaymin, including Blissey, Togekiss, Jirachi, and Goodra. Seed Flare is still a strong STAB move that can be used easily. Psychic allows Shaymin to hit Roserade and Crobat super effectively. Air Slash can be used to hit the Grass-types which are immune to Leech Seed that Psychic misses out on, such as Celebi and opposing Shaymin. Dazzling Gleam can be used to hit Hydreigon as it is a very common Pokemon, but doesn't have very good coverage outside of that. Substitute lets Shaymin stall out walls such as Blissey endlessly and can be used in conjunction with Protect for maximum HP recovery over the course of two turns.

Set Details
========

Although this set might seem to be more defensively oriented, an offensive spread is preferred in order to make the most of Shaymin's good Speed tier and let it still function well against offensive teams with its powerful Seed Flare. Leftovers is used in conjunction with Leech Seed to get maximum recovery each turn and allows Shaymin to endlessly create Substitutes against Pokemon with high HP stats. An alternate spread of 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe can be used for 101 HP Substitutes, but the only common user of Seismic Toss in UU is Blissey, which hates Leech Seed enough anyway. The drop in power is also huge. Shaymin can also use a spread of 252 HP / 120 SpA / 136 Spe with a Timid Nature to retain some offensive power while still outspeeding the likes of Nidoking


Usage Tips
========

Use Leech Seed as much as possible in order to get residual damage on the opponent and keep Shaymin at a high amount of health. Once an opponent is seeded, alternate between Substitute, Seed Flare, and Leech Seed in order to wear down the opponent's Pokemon.

Team Options
========

Shaymin really appreciates the removal of Grass-types that block Leech Seed, so strong Fire-types such as Infernape and Victini make great teammates, and Shaymin deals with bulky Water-types that annoy Infernape and Victini. Pokemon such as Togekiss, Chandelure, and Hydreigon that enjoy special walls being worn down also make for great partners.

Other Options
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Shaymin can make use of a Choice Scarf with Healing Wish that basically behaves similarly to Latios/Latias in OU. Hit the opponent with powerful attacks and coverage until Shaymin is no longer required, then Healing Wish back up a weakened teammate. Swords Dance is also another option for Shaymin but due to Shaymin's fairly lackluster physical movepool, it is not recommended to use a physical set.

Checks & Counters
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**Special Walls**: Special walls such as Blissey have no problem coming in on Shaymin, but have to be aware of Special Defense drops from Seed Flare.

**Goodra**: Goodra gets a special mention as it gains an Attack boost via Sap Sipper from Shaymin's main STAB move and takes pitiful damage from all of its coverage moves.

**Fire-types**: Fire-types such as Victini, Choice Scarf Chandelure, Infernape, and Rotom-H all resist Shaymin's main STAB option and can KO with a STAB Fire-type move; however, they have to be careful not to switch into Earth Power.

**Bulky Steel-types**: Jirachi, Registeel, and Assault Vest Metagross can easily take Seed Flare, however, Jirachi and Metagross do not enjoy taking Earth Power at -2 Special Defense.

**Flying-types**: Flying-types such as Togekiss and Crobat counter pretty much all of Shaymin's sets and can retaliate with STAB Air Slash and Brave Bird respectively. Crobat has to to wary of switching into Psychic but gets a special mention as it can KO Shaymin even if it is behind a Substitute.
 
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I honestly feel like Dazz Gleam should be slashed with EP instead of Psychic (or maybe with both, I dunno). Also I'm kinda hesitant to mentioning Toge because it still isn't for sure here to stay, but ultimately it's OK since we already have to remove countless mentions of the mons that rose either way .–.

Also saving this for posterity:
  • Seed Flare is the move Shaymin should be using most often, as the Special Defense drop can let it break through Pokemon that would otherwise wall it
  • Use Seed Flare sparingly as it only has 8PP and a pretty significant miss chance
That stuff can be discussed later, but for now



Give yourself a check so you can write this hedgehog up imo.

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extremely unlucky with the Seed Flare SpD drop so I decided to run SF, DG, Psy and EP, works well on balanced teams with wish support, prolly slash Psy over the recovery moves?
 

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On the seed set, I'd slash air slash with psychic because it hits the other grasses and forry, both things that deal with seed flare/seed.

Other than that qc 3/3
 

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Overview
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This little hedgehog cements itself in UU as one of the premier special wallbreakers in the tier. Possessing a 120 BP Base Power STAB move that has the added bonus of cutting Special Defense in half 40% of the time, Shaymin can easily blast through a lot of would-be checks or counters. Tapped onto this is Shaymin's good coverage and solid 100 base 100 stat distribution across the board, making Shaymin a Pokemon with bulk, Speed, coverage,(AC) and power all wrapped into one. However, not everything is good news for Shaymin. It's Shaymin's main STAB move Seed Flare, while having such a fantastic positive side effect, is plagued by the fact it's only 85% accurate and has 8 PP,(AC) This means meaning that Shaymin's main STAB Seed Flare is not as easy to spam as one might have thought. But, with the popularity of bulky Water-types in the tier and good neutral coverage that Grass-type moves have, Shaymin is definitely a threat to watch out for.

Life Orb
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name: Life Orb
move 1: Seed Flare
move 2: Earth Power / Dazzling Gleam
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Synthesis / Rest
ability: Natural Cure
item: Life Orb
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
========

Seed Flare is going to be the move you will be clicking 90% of the time Shaymin will be using most of the time, as it is Shaymin's main STAB move and quite spammable due to the 40% chance to half halve Special Defense. Earth Power allows Shaymin to hit Steel-types such as Jirachi and Metagross while Dazzling Gleam can be used to surprise Hydreigon trying to come in on Seed Flare. Psychic is necessary to hit one of Shaymin's main counters, Crobat, which has a decent chance to be OHKOed after Stealth Rock. Air Slash offers better coverage against mainly Grass-types such as Celebi,(AC) and also has the added bonus of being able to OHKO Virizion and Chesnaught, something none of Shaymin's other moves are capable of. Synthesis grants Shaymin with immediate recovery,(AC) while Rest can be used in conjunction with Natural Cure to heal off any damage Shaymin has taken upon switching out. Healing Wish is also an extremely good option for Shaymin as it allows a Pokemon to be brought back up to full HP and cured of any status ailments at the cost of Shaymin's life being KOed.

Set Details
========

The EVs are pretty self-explanatory. Maximum Speed and Special Attack investment allows Shaymin to be as fast and powerful as possible. Life Orb helps Shaymin wallbreak and isn't too problematic as Shaymin has two forms a form of recovery in either Rest and or Synthesis to offset Life Orb recoil. Choice Specs can be used over Life Orb for added power but this exacerbates the dilemma of Seed Flare's already low PP,(AC) and having that the freedom to switch moves with Life Orb is nice to have.

Usage Tips
========

Shaymin should be coming in on bulky Water-types such as Suicune and Swampert as much as possible and proceeding to wallbreak with its powerful Life Orb-boosted moves. Seed Flare is the move Shaymin will be clicking the majority of the time,(AC) and when paired with its coverage moves, can let it get past a lot of would-be counters such as Jirachi with -2 Special Defense using Earth Power. Try to be sparing with use Seed Flare sparingly though,(AC) as it only has 8 PP.

Team Options
========

Pokemon that enjoy bulky Water-types being removed are nice to pair with Shaymin. This includes,(AC) but isn't limited to,(AC) Pokemon such as Victini, Mega Aerodactyl, Krookodile,(AC) and Mienshao. Shaymin appreciates Pokemon that can take advantage of or lure in special walls, such as Superpower Hydreigon or Superpower Nidoking. Finally, Shaymin pairs well with Pokemon that enjoy the site sight of special walls, such as Substitute + Calm Mind Chandelure, who which can set up on a lot of Pokemon, such as Blissey, that would otherwise wall Shaymin.

Leech Seed
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name: Leech Seed
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Seed Flare
move 3: Psychic / Air Slash
move 4: Substitute / Protect
ability: Natural Cure
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
========

Leech Seed is used in order to wear down the special walls that would otherwise do a pretty decent job of walling it Shaymin,(AC) This includes including Blissey, Togekiss, Jirachi,(AC) and Goodra. Seed Flare is a still strong STAB move that can be used easily. and Psychic allows it Shaymin to hit Roserade and Crobat super effectively and also Crobat. Air Slash can be used to hit the Grass-types that are immune to Leech Seed that which Psychic misses out on,(AC) such as Celebi and opposing Shaymin. Dazzling Gleam can be used to hit Hydreigon as it is a very common Pokemon,(AC) but doesn't have very good coverage outside of that. Substitute lets Shaymin stall out walls such as Blissey endlessly and can be used in conjunction with Protect for maximum HP gain recovery over the course of two turns.

Set Details
========

Although this set may seem to be more defensively oriented, an offensive spread is preferred in order to make the most of Shaymin's good Speed tier and let it still function well against offensive teams with its powerful Seed Flare. Leftovers is used in conjunction with Leech Seed to get the maximum recovery each turn and allow it Shaymin to endlessly create Substitutes against Pokemon with high HP stats. An alternate spread of 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe can be used for 101 HP Substitutes, but the only common user of Seismic Toss in UU is Blissey, which hates Leech Seed enough anyway. The drop in power is also huge. Shaymin can also use a spread of 252 HP / 120 SpA / 136 Spe with a Timid Nature to retain some offensive power while also still outspeeding the likes of Nidoking.


Usage Tips
========

Use Leech Seed as much as possible in order to get residual damage on the opponent and keep Shaymin at a high amount of health. Once an opponent is seeded, alternating alternate between Substitute, Seed Flare,(AC) and Leech Seed in order to wear down the opponent's Pokemon.

Team Options
========

Shaymin really appreciates the removal of Grass-types that block Leech Seed,(AC) so strong Fire-types such as Infernape and Victini make great teammates,(AC) and as well as Shaymin deals with bulky Water-types that annoy Infernape and Victini. Pokemon such as Togekiss, Chandelure, and Hydreigon that enjoy special walls being worn down also make for great partners with Shaymin such as Togekiss, Chandelure and Hydreigon.

Other Options
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Shaymin can make use of a Choice Scarf set with Healing Wish that basically behaves similarly to Latios/Latias in OU. Hit the opponent with power STAB and coverage powerful attacks until Shaymin is no longer required,(AC) and then Healing Wish back up a weakened teammate. Swords Dance is also another option for Shaymin but due to Shaymin's fairly lackluster physical movepool, it is not recommended to use Swords Dance a physical set.

Checks & Counters
########

**Special Walls**: Special walls such as Blissey have no problem coming in on Shaymin,(AC) but have to be aware of Special Defense drops from Seed Flare.

**Goodra**: Goodra gets a special mention as it gains an Attack boost via Sap Sipper from Shaymin's main STAB move and takes pitiful damage from all of it's its coverage moves.

**Fire-types**: Fire-types such as Victini, Scarf Chandelure, Infernape,(AC) and Rotom-Heat all resist Shaymin's main STAB option and KO back with a STAB Fire-type move; however,(AC) they have to be careful not to switch into Earth Power.

**Bulky Steel-types**: Assault Vest Metagross, Jirachi,(AC) and Registeel can easily take Seed Flare,(AC) but the former 2 two do not enjoy taking Earth Power at -2 Special Defense Earth Power.

**Flying-types**: Flying-types such as Togekiss and Crobat counter pretty much all of Shaymin's sets and can retaliate with STAB Air Slash and Brave Bird respectively. Crobat has to to wary of switching into Psychic but gets a special mention as it can kill KO Shaymin even if it is behind a Substitutes.

GP 1/2
 
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Overview
########

This little hedgehog Shaymin cements itself in UU as one of the premier special wallbreakers in the tier. Possessing a 120 Base Power STAB move that has the added bonus of cutting Special Defense in half 40% of the time, Shaymin can easily blast through a lot of would-be checks or counters. Tapped Tacked onto this is Shaymin's good coverage and solid base 100 stat distribution across the board, making Shaymin a Pokemon with bulk, Speed, coverage, and power all wrapped into one. However, not everything is good news for Shaymin. Shaymin's main STAB move Seed Flare, while having such a fantastic side effect, is plagued by the fact it's only 85% accurate and has 8 PP, meaning it that Shaymin's main STAB is not as easy to spam as one might have thought. But, with the popularity of bulky Water-types in the tier and good neutral coverage that Grass-type moves have, Shaymin is definitely a threat to watch out for.

Life Orb
########
name: Life Orb
move 1: Seed Flare
move 2: Earth Power / Dazzling Gleam
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Synthesis / Rest
ability: Natural Cure
item: Life Orb
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
========

Seed Flare is going to be the move Shaymin will be using most of the time, as it is Shaymin's main STAB move and quite spammable due to the 40% chance to halve Special Defense. Earth Power allows Shaymin to hit Steel-types such as Jirachi and Metagross while Dazzling Gleam can be used to surprise Hydreigon trying to come in on Seed Flare. Psychic is necessary to hit one of Shaymin's main counters, Crobat, which has a decent chance to be OHKOed after Stealth Rock. Air Slash offers better coverage against Grass-types such as Celebi, and also has the added bonus of being able to OHKO Virizion and Chesnaught, something none of Shaymin's other moves are capable of. Synthesis grants Shaymin with immediate, repeatable I add this to make more of a reason to have synthesis, as both are really immediate. Change it to anything that'll work if I know nothing. recovery, while Rest can be used in conjunction with Natural Cure to heal off any damage Shaymin has taken, (AC) removing sleep upon switching out. Healing Wish is also an extremely good option for Shaymin as it allows a Pokemon to be brought back up to full HP and cured of any status ailments at the cost of Shaymin being KOed.

Set Details
========

The EVs are pretty self-explanatory. Maximum Speed and Special Attack investment allows Shaymin to be as fast and powerful as possible. Life Orb helps Shaymin wallbreak and isn't too problematic as Shaymin has a form of recovery in either Rest or Synthesis to offset Life Orb recoil. Choice Specs can be used over Life Orb for added power but this exacerbates the dilemma of Seed Flare's already low PP, and the freedom to switch moves with Life Orb is nice to have.

Usage Tips
========

Shaymin should be coming in on bulky Water-types such as Suicune and Swampert as much as possible and proceeding to wallbreak with its powerful Life Orb-boosted moves. Seed Flare is the move Shaymin will be clicking the majority of the time, and when paired with its coverage moves, can let it get past a lot of would-be counters such as Jirachi with -2 Special Defense using Earth Power. Try to use Seed Flare sparingly though, as it only has 8 PP.

Team Options
========

Pokemon that enjoy bulky Water-types being removed are nice to pair with Shaymin. This includes, but isn't limited to, Pokemon such as either "isn't limited to" or "Pokemon such as", no both pls Victini, Mega Aerodactyl, Krookodile, and Mienshao. Shaymin appreciates Pokemon that can take advantage of or lure in special walls, such as Superpower Hydreigon or Superpower Nidoking. Finally, Shaymin pairs well with Pokemon that enjoy the sight of special walls, such as Substitute + Calm Mind Chandelure, which can set up on a lot of Pokemon, such as Blissey, that would otherwise wall Shaymin.

Leech Seed
########
name: Leech Seed
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Seed Flare
move 3: Psychic / Air Slash
move 4: Substitute / Protect
ability: Natural Cure
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
========

Leech Seed is used in order to wear down the special walls that would otherwise do a pretty decent job of walling Shaymin, including Blissey, Togekiss, Jirachi, and Goodra. Seed Flare is still a strong STAB move that can be used easily. Psychic allows Shaymin to hit Roserade and Crobat super effectively. Air Slash can be used to hit the Grass-types which are immune to Leech Seed that Psychic misses out on, such as Celebi and opposing Shaymin. Dazzling Gleam can be used to hit Hydreigon as it is a very common Pokemon, but doesn't have very good coverage outside of that. Substitute lets Shaymin stall out walls such as Blissey endlessly and can be used in conjunction with Protect for maximum HP recovery over the course of two turns.

Set Details
========

Although this set may might seem to be more defensively oriented, an offensive spread is preferred in order to make the most of Shaymin's good Speed tier and let it still function well against offensive teams with its powerful Seed Flare. Leftovers is used in conjunction with Leech Seed to get maximum recovery each turn and allows Shaymin to endlessly create Substitutes against Pokemon with high HP stats. An alternate spread of 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe can be used for 101 HP Substitutes, but the only common user of Seismic Toss in UU is Blissey, which hates Leech Seed enough anyway. The drop in power is also huge. Shaymin can also use a spread of 252 HP / 120 SpA / 136 Spe with a Timid Nature to retain some offensive power while still outspeeding the likes of Nidoking


Usage Tips
========

Use Leech Seed as much as possible in order to get residual damage on the opponent and keep Shaymin at a high amount of health. Once an opponent is seeded, alternate between Substitute, Seed Flare, and Leech Seed in order to wear down the opponent's Pokemon.

Team Options
========

Shaymin really appreciates the removal of Grass-types that block Leech Seed, so strong Fire-types such as Infernape and Victini make great teammates, and Shaymin deals with bulky Water-types that annoy Infernape and Victini. Pokemon such as Togekiss, Chandelure, and Hydreigon. as that enjoy special walls being worn down also make for great partners with Shaymin.

Other Options
########

Shaymin can make use of a Choice Scarf set with Healing Wish that basically behaves similarly to Latios/Latias in OU. Hit the opponent with powerful attacks and coverage until Shaymin is no longer required, then Healing Wish back up a weakened teammate. Swords Dance is also another option for Shaymin but due to Shaymin's fairly lackluster physical movepool, it is not recommended to use a physical set.

Checks & Counters
########

**Special Walls**: Special walls such as Blissey have no problem coming in on Shaymin, but have to be aware of Special Defense drops from Seed Flare.

**Goodra**: Goodra gets a special mention as it gains an Attack boost via Sap Sipper from Shaymin's main STAB move and takes pitiful damage from all of its coverage moves.

**Fire-types**: Fire-types such as Victini, Choice Scarf Chandelure, Infernape, and Rotom-Heat all resist Shaymin's main STAB option and can KO with a STAB Fire-type move; however, they have to be careful not to switch into Earth Power.

**Bulky Steel-types**: Assault Vest Metagross, Jirachi, and Registeel Rearrange to put AV metagross in the third slot; otherwise AV can be "applied" to all of them. can easily take Seed Flare, but the former two do not enjoy taking Earth Power at -2 Special Defense.

**Flying-types**: Flying-types such as Togekiss and Crobat counter pretty much all of Shaymin's sets and can retaliate with STAB Air Slash and Brave Bird respectively. Crobat has to to wary of switching into Psychic but gets a special mention as it can KO Shaymin even if it is behind a Substitute.

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